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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Hayden2012 on June 16, 2013, 04:59:13 PM
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Hi Guys,
How do professional cricketers get away with obviously getting their bats made by a personal bat maker who may not be even be from their sponsored company?
Isn't that a bit unfair for the unsuspecting consumer who buys a bat assuming that's it is exactly the same as what their hero uses ?
I personally got sucked into it as we all have. Is their any bats available EXACTLY like the ones used by those at the top top level ?
Cheers
Hayden
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It's gone on for years and probably always will!
But some bats are based on the players profile whereas others will simply have their profile bats made and then the relevant stickers applied which they are advertising that season.
I guess the closest profile to the actual player being offered are the GM Players bats.
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Gray nics are pretty accurate, usually players use a their preferred stock shape with their endorsed stickers on...i.e. cook using a legend with oblivion stickers
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It's the same with any other product, do you really think the celebs advertising creams and shampoos actually use them.
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What it this scenario occurs.
Player gets sponsored by GM, player goes to an independant bat maker to get bats made, GM pay Bat maker for making the bats. Does this make that bat maker employed by GM and the bats legitimate GM bats?
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Or player pays for his own bats as quite a few do
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What about when they make no attempt to cover the original branding, but put their sponsors stickers on?
E.g Dhoni putting Reebok stickers on a TON bat, is this still misleading as he's clearly showing who actually makes the bat...
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/MS-Dhoni-Batting_zps0c97f113.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/MS-Dhoni-Batting_zps0c97f113.jpg.html)
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Keeps them all happy I suppose.
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I totally agree but then again they are not actually stating anywhere that they are using say a GM bat just because their stickers are on the bat.
At the end of the day the stickers could be for an accountants or a solicitors. They are just stickers and advertising for a brand just like the Investec signs are on the pitch.
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I heard all GM players use GM made bats? Ravi decided he didn't want to so isn't with GM now for whatever reasons
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All GM players use GM made bats dispite what anyone tells you, it may and will have happened in the past but you would be surprised with the amount of players that use stock shapes
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All GM players use GM made bats dispite what anyone tells you, it may and will have happened in the past but you would be surprised with the amount of players that use stock shapes
Except for all the ones who use B3 ;) :D
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Except for all the ones who use B3 ;) :D
Only Trott seems to use B3 and he's with NB not GM
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Was just using GM as a filler name, was the first one that came to my head!
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Only Trott seems to use B3 and he's with NB not GM
There is one more........
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I think it's a bit like everyone stating they make Sachins bats... Don't believe everything you hear
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Well who does make as sachin' s bats?
It really should be stated by a company that the bat they sell is" based on" so and so' s bat, and not his/ her actual same bat in every way.
What would be cool is to put a test batsman's bat up against the same level bat bought in a store , and thus the comparison would be the truth !
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All GM players use GM made bats dispite what anyone tells you, it may and will have happened in the past but you would be surprised with the amount of players that use stock shapes
How can you track who uses what? You can limit which stickers you give out, but nothing to stop them peeling off and going on another bat.
We've heard this before from Edward Lowy, despite there being photographic evidence at the time (Ravi Bop) that this wasn't the case.
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Well who does make as sachin' s bats?
It really should be stated by a company that the bat they sell is" based on" so and so' s bat, and not his/ her actual same bat in every way.
What would be cool is to put a test batsman's bat up against the same level bat bought in a store , and thus the comparison would be the truth !
A great deal of players use an off the shelf bat, Ian Bell and Graeme Swann are two very prominent examples. Bell handpicked his Kook sticks 2 days after us last year, and in the following matches could clearly be seen using a Recoil 900 (not even the top model) before the 900 sticker was removed. Fair enough, this year he definitely isn't using a Menace, as the shape is wrong, i imagine his Recoils have been re-stickered.
Swanns GM Epic is as off the shelf as it gets.
This sort of thing happens in a number of sports. David Beckham's predators were very different to the boots millions of people purchased every season. As a goalkeeper myself at a couple of football league club academies when i was in my teens, i know for a fact that goalie gloves for pros are very different to the stuff you can buy in store.
As said above, advertising happens in all walks of life, i highly doubt Holly Willoughbooby and James Corden use a windows mobile phone.
Also, nowhere in any manufacturers catalogue does it say 'this bat is the same as player x's bat in each and every way' - they generally say 'used/endorsed by player x'
If player x is using a bat with GN Oblivion stickers on, then by definition it is an Oblivion. I think everyone realizes that Alastair Cook won't be using an Oblivion 4 star even though he endorses it.
If someone really wants player quality wood, then it is possible to get it (or very, very, very close to it) if they are prepared to pay top whack.
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Well I saw a few of Ian bells bats in a workshop this week getting prepared and they weren't kookaburra's...
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my whole point is that it is misleading .It is not fair for a consumer to pay big money for a bat they think is the same as their star batsman.Lets face it when we buy a bat a lot of our choice has to do with the international player who uses a bat
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Lets face it when we buy a bat a lot of our choice has to do with the international player who uses a bat
Exactly, I bought my first Chase because Matthew Hoggard was such an inspirational batsman, I wanted to be just like him! The fact it was my local bat maker and that I could visit the factory had nothing to do with my decision.... ;)
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Well I saw a few of Ian bells bats in a workshop this week getting prepared and they weren't kookaburra's...
Players get bats from various sources. I know he got some bats from Kook last year, and they were out of the same boxes we went through to handpick our stock. Admittedly yes, that doesn't mean he gets all of them from Kook.
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Exactly, I bought my first Chase because Matthew Hoggard was such an inspirational batsman......
Were you on glue?
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How can you track who uses what? You can limit which stickers you give out, but nothing to stop them peeling off and going on another bat.
We've heard this before from Edward Lowy, despite there being photographic evidence at the time (Ravi Bop) that this wasn't the case.
Well its impossible to track but it is monitored in a way, we don't give out stickers so they can't put some on a different bat and are stickers won't peel off very well so easy to spot.
well I don't know with ravi as I was not their at the time but its been said a million times don't believe everything you read on here and are told as it becomes a game of Chinese whispers as I could say X player uses bats made by X bat maker then it can be misinterpreted and X bat maker could become Y bat maker