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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: tailender on June 27, 2013, 06:25:47 PM
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These guys have jut tried to add me on Facebook.
Any of you guys heard of them? Are they a UK based outfit?
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I added them and I quickly unadded them
They are from Pakistan and go under several disguises. Every day I would get a Dear Sir message asking about buying "gears" from them.
Bats don't look bad but questionable quality
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That's quite funny that you mention "gears" as literally 5 minutes after getting a request from "SC SIDS" I got a request from "SC Gears" sae company I presume?
so do they make their own bats or buy in from other Indian companies?
I've had a quick scroll through their facebook page and the bats don't look too bad! Stickers are a bit loud but the grains etc look ok. They English Willow?
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Gear looks good, I like there black and silver stickers.
But non of that counts if the standard of products is low.
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Master sports
Leeward cricket gears
We're two others, they started tagging me in all sorts
Don't add them
Bats are made in Pakistan. If you ask them they will answer all questions and even off you pads at £20 a pop
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Ah
so are the bats Kashmir willow?
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no, like all companies, some bats will be kashmir some will be english, I think people needs to get rid of this preconception that things coming from Pakistan or India, that arent coming from the mainstream brands are sub standard, unless anyone has had a SIDS bat that has been crap? I have had a Mids bat and it went a treat but looked crap
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English willow, they look good but I would say MSR are very similar and probably a better option. Maybe MSR man Steve knows a little more about them??
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Good point Leachy
I must admit, when it comes to Pakistani and Indian bats I have the preconception that quality assurance goes out the window. I just think of a guy sat in his front room carving a few clefts out when I think of Sialkot etc... Obviously this could be way off the mark but its just my opinion.
Are MSR bats made in India too?
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MSR are made in Pakistan but Steve has thousands of bats here in England.
I have a £30 one. Not convinced its English willow and its pressed harder than concrete but it has a nice middle. The rest isn't great but for £30 it's a decent bat
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I can' get my head around whos bats are from where!! ???
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Good point Leachy
I must admit, when it comes to Pakistani and Indian bats I have the preconception that quality assurance goes out the window. I just think of a guy sat in his front room carving a few clefts out when I think of Sialkot etc... Obviously this could be way off the mark but its just my opinion.
Are MSR bats made in India too?
Very very wide of the mark India and Pakistan can and do produce quality bats on par and sometimes better than there English counterparts.
MSR are made out of Lahore and are of decent quality both there old handled ones and there new Js Wrights handled ones...
Sids are used at first class level in both Pakistan and Australia under another brand name i know a few Aussie with them...
The Mids i had and sold to Leachy was from a pro bag it didn't look all that but for the size and power thats all that mattered...
low density willow is hard to come by and great looking low density is even harder
Grade 1 willow is getting harder and harder to source ask the brands of here they will agree
Smaller brands are finding it hard because the bigger makers are on getting true grade 1 willow
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These guys have jut tried to add me on Facebook.
Any of you guys heard of them? Are they a UK based outfit?
These guys are pakistan based. Regarding their bats, I purchased one 45mm edges monster bat, bat is decent and has a great ping the only problem is it is heavy 2.14.
Initially their bats were made by Malik brand in pakistan and now some other brand namely HC is making for SIDS. Willow is English and the bats are priced very reasonably.
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So is the willow purchased over here (J.S Wright) and then shipped over to wherever to be produced and then shipped back here?
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in the main yes
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Is this common??
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They are English willow but made in Pakistan. It's all about whether you feel they press the bats as well as English batmakers and whether the handles are decent. That's the only difference to this and a TK bat
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They are English willow but made in Pakistan. It's all about whether you feel they press the bats as well as English batmakers and whether the handles are decent. That's the only difference to this and a TK bat
Whats a TK Bat?
And also, (Sorry for all the questions i'm just intrigued) so the handles aren't purchased over here its purely the willow?
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I'm not sure about the handles
TK is the name of a batmaker that makes bats for a lot of brands .... So he makes a bat without branding and companies plonk their stickers on it
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They are English willow but made in Pakistan. It's all about whether you feel they press the bats as well as English batmakers and whether the handles are decent. That's the only difference to this and a TK bat
There bats are as well pressed in the main if there from a reliable source but i guess this is half the problem with fakes and scams rife unfortunately.
Now there is also something in there temperature and drying process which gives them a slight advantage i feel they tend to have bigger bats because of the moisture level but that can mean trouble with damages...
Handles on the sub contient have got better but you might struggle to find a Asian bat with a oval handle
For me there nothing in English or Asian bats well performance or quality wise
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Damages in what respect? splitting of their bats etc?
Just looking through their profile now and they have plenty of videos showing bats being made by hand, obviously this doesn't mean they are high quality of course
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All bats carry a risk but dryer bats with less moisture in them will carry a greater risk mate.
Handmade bats do not guarantee anything i'm afraid.
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They might split if they are too dry
Imagine leaving your bat in the boot of your car over summer then using it, it may be a bit brittle
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Ah I see
So, (another question looming guys) companies based here in the UK selling bats made in India and Pakistan... do they do well or are they playing second fiddle to companies using English techniques?
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What are English techniques???
I use a bat designed by a Doctor on a machine.
In the main cheeper bats are seen as inferirior and 90 per cent of people go with stickers and big brands because it what they know or what there dad used.
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sorry
by techniques I mean pressing, drying out
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What you will find is they are a lot cheaper. All the Indian players use Indian made bats so they are as good as English made bats IF you get the top Indian bats.
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And that is a BIG IF
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Yes and No
Some press individually and some just have a system and pot luck but i don't think it down to region in the main.
Drying is more to do with environment
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Safe option is to just stick to UK made bats then I suppose?
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That is up to you and what you want half the bats you think are uk made aren't.
Good luck in yor hunting mate
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That's exactly my point mate
how do we know where the bats are from? I could pay for an English willow bat, use it for a few games and it splits because its actually Indian >:(
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That's exactly my point mate
how do we know where the bats are from? I could pay for an English willow bat, use it for a few games and it splits because its actually Indian >:(
Sorry but that is a daft it makes no difference is what where trying to say
If it Kashmir willow you will know or you should if your not sure to to a shop like the suppliers on here and ask them to help you mate
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OK
Thanks mate!
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I have used a couple of their bats and i would say the quality is ok.
Consistency is the key as another friend got a bat and for the same model it was a diff profile, mine was with no concaving and his was when we hadn't specified anything but just ordered their mid level range.
Not a big fan of their finishing either.
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have heard about Sids from some of my friends Shoab68.. guess they are new in the market ?? interested to know about it
guess they are based in pakistan ..good to have a new brand :o
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have heard about Sids from some of my friends Shoab68.. guess they are new in the market ?? interested to know about it
guess they are based in pakistan ..good to have a new brand :o
Have seen some of their Black Mamba and Colada range bats and they looks lovely with maximum straight grains. Though i have a monster bat with thick 45 mm edges from them which is really a monster of a bat, i am now really tempted to own a Mamba or Colada.