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Title: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: The Palmist on July 07, 2013, 11:36:37 AM
This saturday our team was literally bounced off. Opposition strike bowlers bowled pacey goodish or just short of a good length deliveries on middle and off which just rose after hitting the pitch. They had fielding in the circle and we lost 5 wickets as close catches.

As an opener I fought hard for 11 overs before side edging a delivery on my pads, bat turned too early or bowl was a bit slower than expected.

The problem I found was facing these deliveries. I just had no answer, I couldn't go forward because of the sharp bounce and going on back foot just never works for me. I managed somehow by standing a foot away from the crease but had to stand back in when the keeper decided to stand up. I also tried to read the length and left any balls going away from the wickets. I faced may be about 40 deliveries for my 9 very laborious runs.

One positive I did take from the game was facing the bowler when he changed angles from over to around. I just changed my guard to leg and turned a bit to continue facing him which negated the effect of around the wicket angle. This is from a tip I read somewhere on the forum.

Any help and advice will be much much appreciated.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: RossViper on July 07, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
??

Learn how to play off the back off?!

Next!!!
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: Banksy on July 07, 2013, 07:30:04 PM
As above...

Rather than batting a foot outside your crease, I find it easier to bat as close to the stumps as I dare to pacey/bouncy bowlers, then just guide it down to third man or smash it through point if its wider.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: The Palmist on July 07, 2013, 07:55:20 PM
I have had no problems with short rising deliveries or the ones aimed at me but really struggled with good length balls which were just shooting up. Pitch did have a part to play but I would like to have something in my bag for counter attack next time.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: procricket on July 07, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
Pull off the front foot or drop your hands and let it go.

Are you talking about tennis ball bounce wickets???
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: The Palmist on July 07, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Thanks Pro good tip.
Yes very tennis ball like but uneven at the same time so can't risk pulling completely out as some deliveries can just roll in hitting the stumps.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: acko109 on July 07, 2013, 09:37:48 PM
Get down the other end  !
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: potzy248 on July 07, 2013, 10:17:19 PM
Went to training yesterday where we all had to face this ridiculous bowling machine. It was positioned about 1/4 down the pitch and it just bowled bouncer after bouncer at us. It was some of the funniest stuff I have seen...until it was my turn. You literally had half a second to decide what to do. The balls kept changing as the coach changed the length. Anyway after getting hit in the neck, arm, chest, gloves etc for about 30 balls, I started seeing it really well. I was able to sway and drop the hands, duck, hook play under the eyes and pull.
It was probably the best training I have done for short pitched deliveries and would definitely recommend it. It was a smaller "Bola" machine not the full size one. Bit sore today but know it worked wonders for my short ball game. Looking forward to next Sunday.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: acko109 on July 07, 2013, 10:29:25 PM
Went to training yesterday where we all had to face this ridiculous bowling machine. It was positioned about 1/4 down the pitch and it just bowled bouncer after bouncer at us. It was some of the funniest stuff I have seen...until it was my turn. You literally had half a second to decide what to do. The balls kept changing as the coach changed the length. Anyway after getting hit in the neck, arm, chest, gloves etc for about 30 balls, I started seeing it really well. I was able to sway and drop the hands, duck, hook play under the eyes and pull.
It was probably the best training I have done for short pitched deliveries and would definitely recommend it. It was a smaller "Bola" machine not the full size one. Bit sore today but know it worked wonders for my short ball game. Looking forward to next Sunday.
any idea what speed it was on pottzy?
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: potzy248 on July 07, 2013, 11:50:24 PM
Was about 57mph up to 60 mph.
Felt very very fast though when it was that close. It helped with my foot work and ducking and weaving. Like I said brilliant training for short pitched stuff.
I am compulsive hooker so I really needed this type of training.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: acko109 on July 08, 2013, 01:08:29 AM
yeh i find even when its not on so fast on the machine around 70 ish .. it feels a lot quicker than a bowler running in and bowling as it has the split second of you trying to pick the line up and so on .. its good fun the bowling machine though ! . you found that the different coloured balls do different things?
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: potzy248 on July 08, 2013, 01:14:53 AM
Not even different colored. Some are just a bit more worn than others so they come out differently.

Having it closer than usual exaggerates the pace.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: Dhiraj on July 08, 2013, 07:40:41 AM
I have had no problems with short rising deliveries or the ones aimed at me but really struggled with good length balls which were just shooting up. Pitch did have a part to play but I would like to have something in my bag for counter attack next time.

Did you try giving charge or take few steps? Atleast to disturb his length?
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: smilley792 on July 08, 2013, 07:54:12 AM
We played on a pitch recently that had sharp tennis ball style bounce(every ball though no shooters)

We lost 3wickets to close catches.

The surviving opener got 74 by employing 1shot to every ball. He moved to off and played the ramp/lap to every ball.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: roco on July 08, 2013, 08:27:23 AM
Close eyes and hope for best

But personally sit back in crease or come way out of crease depends how confident you are
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: The Palmist on July 08, 2013, 10:57:20 AM
Did you try giving charge or take few steps? Atleast to disturb his length?
No I didn't, I was way too defensive making sure I don't make any mistakes. I think he may have won the mental battle already. The shot I lost my wicket to wasn't a riser but a slowish half volley on pads, I attempted to place it towards square leg but bat turned too soon giving it a thick side edge.

Confidence does have a lot to play here I believe. First delivery I faced was a good length whice rose sharply to strike me on my helmet. This was the first time in a number of years that I had taken one on the head.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: kouservice on July 08, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
Its always a challenge to play bouncers and rising deliveries from good length are very difficult to play. The best thing to do is try and disturb the bowlers length, its more mental game in these situation. Another but most important way to tackle is play with soft hand(drop).

Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: RossViper on July 08, 2013, 02:15:46 PM
We played on a pitch recently that had sharp tennis ball style bounce(every ball though no shooters)

We lost 3wickets to close catches.

The surviving opener got 74 by employing 1shot to every ball. He moved to off and played the ramp/lap to every ball.

Sharp tennis ball bounce...... 


This thread is amazing!

Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: stevat on July 09, 2013, 05:15:20 PM
Sharp tennis ball bounce...... 


This thread is amazing!
Wouldn't want to get hit by a sharp tennis ball, though surely it would just stick in the pitch?

Sorry for calling you Shirley.
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: gnook on July 09, 2013, 05:52:15 PM
Just go back and across before the ball is delivered mate. You will have the extra time to place or pull the ball, or come forward to nudge it if the ball does keep low. Playing late and under your eyes is the key. Good luck!
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: Simmy on July 09, 2013, 09:13:42 PM
i had this other thursday didnt know what to do..

guy was pretty nippy and about 6ft 6 and a length ball was just leaping of the pitch just came down track tried to smash him over his head got a few edges for singles lol and got him on hand lol ouch
Title: Re: Sharp rising good length deliveries
Post by: shazz on July 09, 2013, 09:48:13 PM
play it straight, play it late. Never fails if you do it well.