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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: FvanN on July 10, 2013, 06:44:51 PM

Title: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: FvanN on July 10, 2013, 06:44:51 PM
Which order do you follow?

Finished sticking oil on my girl today so will be knocking her in over the next few days and then sticking a sheet on her.
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on July 10, 2013, 06:50:35 PM
scuff sheet then knock in as the scuff sheet will form to the contours of the blade then rather than trying to put the scuff sheet onto an uneven surface
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: qalib13 on July 10, 2013, 06:59:36 PM
Knock then scuff.

I find it takes me longer to get the bat ready for nets/throw downs if the scuff sheet is applied before the knocking in. It feels to me that because there's extra protection on its takes me that much longer to get the desired effect.
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: Abighugeappl on July 10, 2013, 07:03:07 PM
I'd knock then scuff, only because as you knock in the edges of the bat, the scuff sheet will bubble and then split
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: junter97 on July 10, 2013, 07:08:07 PM
Scuff sheet first otherwise I find it doesn't stick properly to the face, especially the rounded edges
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 10, 2013, 07:09:11 PM
Scuff then knock, might take a bit longer to prepare but protects the bat during knocking in, as well as sticks to the shape better
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: FvanN on July 10, 2013, 07:10:20 PM
I'd knock then scuff, only because as you knock in the edges of the bat, the scuff sheet will bubble and then split

My scuff sheet falls just short of the edges, so will be sticking some of the fiber tape down each edge.
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 10, 2013, 07:11:27 PM
My scuff sheet falls just short of the edges, so will be sticking some of the fiber tape down each edge.

Still scuff first, sticks better to the face that way mate  :)
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 10, 2013, 07:17:02 PM
Scuff sheet first otherwise I find it doesn't stick properly to the face, especially the rounded edges


Can't say i've ever had that problem, maybe you've used a bit too much oil, or not waited for it to soak in and dry.

Always knock in before applying a scuff sheet in my opinion. Rolling the edges on a sink rim or similar is impossible when a scuff sheet is present. Also you can never quite be sure whether the dents you are making are in the wood, or the scuff sheet. The bubbling/splitting issue down the edges is another factor. I hate ruining lovely bats that come with pre-applied scuff sheets by knocking them in and messing up the edges of the sheet.

Also worth noting i use something very similar to this to apply the scuff sheet

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-felt-edged-SQUEEGEE-for-tape-sign-vinyl-carbon-fibre-car-wrap-application-/270825966293?var=&hash=item3f0e7c4ad5 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-felt-edged-SQUEEGEE-for-tape-sign-vinyl-carbon-fibre-car-wrap-application-/270825966293?var=&hash=item3f0e7c4ad5)

So i have never experienced the problem of the sheet not sitting well on an uneven surface.
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: procricket on July 10, 2013, 07:32:24 PM
Agree jake always knock in first then scuff then finish with fielding machine with real balls
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: Offthesquare on July 10, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
Defo knock then scuff.

Pain to try and knock edges with the scuff sheet present, also far easier to see where you have knocked vs where you haven't without the scuff sheet present.

Also found if you have a granite or similar rounded edge work top in the kitchen ( that weird planet with a washing machine and cooker) brilliant way to compress/knock the edges .... Similar to sink bath etcmi guess. But works a treat.

Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: Cricket_PTY on July 11, 2013, 12:20:38 AM
I ALWAYS knock first then scuff, its more easy to scuff after all the compression of knocking is done...

Cheers...
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: Chad on July 11, 2013, 12:57:20 AM
I normally oil a coat, then round off the edges before I scuff. Then I knock it in for about an hour or two then start with some throw downs and perhaps a gentle net. :)

I'm pretty sure I rounded off the edges for you Frank! Maybe give them another run through just to be sure though. :D
Title: Re: knock then scuff or Scuff the knock?
Post by: smokem on July 11, 2013, 01:22:22 AM
I think it depends on the scuff as well...

Hammer Edge, I would scuff then knock. I find Hammer Edges are stiffer and a touch less sticky. So they are less likely to conform to the undulations after knocking in and don't stick as well in those spots.

Thinner self heal scuffs, I would knock then scuff. They are much thinner and generally stick very well. So they will conform and adhere well to an uneven, knocked-in face. And because they tend to crease and creep as the willow deforms, you will get bubbles along the edges if you scuff then knock.