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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: EaglesCC on July 28, 2013, 11:40:38 PM
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Adding a toe guard and anti scuff is something I seem to do without thinking twice to any bat which doesn't have one.
But recently have this feeling that I'm adding needless weight in the wrong place with a rubber toe guard. I mean what does a toe guard weight?! 1oz? An extra grip; 1.5oz? Thick Any scuff; 0.8oz? (Complete guesstimates)
So if you buy a bat that weighs (let's say) 2lb 8oz then add all of those bits you're looking at 2lb 11oz plus.
How effective is glue and what sort of weight would it add?
Is it all in my mind?
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This is something i've never really thought too much about myself but I guess you're right it does add extra weight. A toe guard and scuff sheet is also something i don't bat an eyelid at! I've never used anything else on the toe so will be interested in responses.
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Someone nice told me to just fibreglass the toe.
But as with glue, you'd have to be highly skilled to make it neat, or spend a while sanding it smooth after?
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Someone nice told me to just fibreglass the toe.
But as with glue, you'd have to be highly skilled to make it neat, or spend a while sanding it smooth after?
When you say fibreglass, do you mean just tape it up? Or actually somehow fibreglass moulding?
I can't imagine applying glue to be that difficult. I would just mask the surrounding areas up, apply the glue and removing the masking tape before the glue drys.
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Fibreglass as in the strips and resin, or for laziness. The ready mixed stuff you get in halfords.
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you mean this:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_194319_langId_-1_categoryId_165625 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_194319_langId_-1_categoryId_165625)
intersting - this is common on the bottom of Asian bats and I quite like it. Easier than doing a toe guard (which I am abysmal at fitting!!)
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I find shoe goo easier to use and it only takes about 20 seconds to apply
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I was recommended outdoor varnish on the toe. Seals against moisture, only takes a few seconds and dirt cheap. Does need reapplying every few weeks but I've never had a problem doing it.
I think Dan at Chase mentioned something about a carbon fibre toe guard, anyone heard of these??
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you mean this:
[url]http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_194319_langId_-1_categoryId_165625[/url] ([url]http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_194319_langId_-1_categoryId_165625[/url])
intersting - this is common on the bottom of Asian bats and I quite like it. Easier than doing a toe guard (which I am abysmal at fitting!!)
Yep, that's the. Stuff.
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I was recommended outdoor varnish on the toe. Seals against moisture, only takes a few seconds and dirt cheap. Does need reapplying every few weeks but I've never had a problem doing it.
I think Dan at Chase mentioned something about a carbon fibre toe guard, anyone heard of these??
I have a b3 experimentally toe guard on my bat. Very light, Unfortunately it broke on one corner. Seems to surfer the fate off all other toe guards.
Will get a pic later.
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On the Topic of different toe guards, has anyone ever tried the "hard toe"
I was considering getting on my L&W once that toe guard goes to see what it's like
http://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/prd_87_Hard-Toe.aspx (http://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/prd_87_Hard-Toe.aspx)
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I was recommended outdoor varnish on the toe. Seals against moisture, only takes a few seconds and dirt cheap. Does need reapplying every few weeks but I've never had a problem doing it.
I think Dan at Chase mentioned something about a carbon fibre toe guard, anyone heard of these??
Yeah, Andrew at Salix has been recommending dipping the tow in boat varnish.
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It would be really good to have pics of all methods. We all know what a rubber toe guard looks like and I can post some pics of the toe on my MB LE which seems to be this carbon fibre type.
What does Shoe goo like when it's on?
I'm realtively good at doing this sort of thing and applying a toe guard is straight forward for me now that I've done it so many times. So this is purely from a minimual weight addition/ reasonable toe protection perspective.
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Shoe Goo goes on like a thick paste and is spreadable with a tool like a screwdriver or a knife, once it dries it becomes very hard and takes the shape of the toe very well.
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Putting varnish on the toe dries looking like this. Adds next to no weight, looks good in my opinion and does the job.
One tin of varnish will last ages so works out loads cheaper than applying a toe guard too :)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/null_zpsd70d2b79.jpg)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/null_zps80ba1eec.jpg)
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Carbon fibre(albeit broken)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/65FBA1E6-C7CB-474F-B6A6-B19F5250D7C2-1761-00000225B2F3A3D5_zps9a050d73.jpg)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/0D955981-7686-4638-9A3E-FB791950EA46-1761-00000225AB0DB757_zpsc7b75cae.jpg)
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This thread from a while ago covers a lot of ground on toe guards
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18467.msg292301#msg292301 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18467.msg292301#msg292301)
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This thread from a while ago covers a lot of ground on toe guards
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18467.msg292301#msg292301[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18467.msg292301#msg292301[/url])
That link doesn't work for me.
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Try http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18467.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18467.0)
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Still nothing, what's the title?
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I prefer shoe glue.
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Varnish for me ;) this year with all the dry weather has meant only applying it once a month.
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Pubs use hair spray to stop blackboards running of chalk. Possibly worth a try
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Shoe Goo seems a great alternative and easy to apply - just squeeze on , spread with a butter knife or flat plastic implement like used in decorating and to finish dip finger in water and tidy edges. The wet finger seems to allow moulding to any shaped toe. Dries and hardens pretty quickly but haven't tested how long it lasts. I guess it depends on amount of tapping and surfaces. If it wears off though, i think you'd be able to sand it back and reapply.
Much easier than shaping and applying a toe guard. I've also used it at the toe end of the bat between where the scuff sheet ends if there's a gap as I hate it when dirt/mud gets underneath the scuff sheet.
Don't forget to wash hands as it has a hazardous warning but it also picks off easily like rubber.
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shoe goo all the way for me, applied at start of the season and is still pretty much perfect.
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I use shoe goo and spread it with my fingers, replace it twice a season. I play 50 games a season and open the batting so it might last a season for some people. I go up the face of the bat with the shoe goo to the bottom of the scuff sheet, may just be good luck but i haven't had a bat break at the toe since I started using shoe goo.
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I think I'm going to give Shoe Goo a go on my next bat. The toe guards I use are pretty thick and definately provide that assurance that I can tap the bat on any surface and it won't get damaded/ damp. But then again I don't tend to tap my bat hard on any surface (usually more on the side of my shoe).