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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: mini998 on July 29, 2013, 09:43:01 AM
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In your experience which make/model of bats had long sweet spots? specially bats from our forum sponsors here...
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Since most forum sponsors custom make bats to your requirements, they can all do long middles/sweet spots! Best to contact them directly and see what they can do.
Otherwise H4L Hattori, blankbats and Aldred spring to mind.
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I have had one made here, check my thread in bats section. It has a really long and responsive middle for it's size. You may have to compromise on balance and weight though.
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I'd recommend getting H4L to make a slightly modified version of the Hattori shape - he did this for me last year, with a slightly thicker toe - and it goes all the way down.
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Newbury GT.
The middle is wide, and goes further towards the toe than you would think looking at the profile.
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That also applies to M&H's Distinction, which is good for most of the length.
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Played against a guy with a huge M&H this weekend. Sweetspot seemed to go down most the bat. I think they're another make which you should look at if you're after that.
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Gray Nicolls X181 has a long middle with spine running all into the toe
Aldred have long middles and middle on mine runs quite high up the blade, not at the toe due to duck billed toe.
But the bat that I own with the longest middle in my opinion is a hunts county triumph, just seems the whole blade is a middle.
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Can you tell by looking at the bat if it has a long middle. And why would anyone want anything less than a long middle?
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normally it's a pronounced spine that extends from the toe to somewhere just below the splice. Imagine an SS Jumbo as an extreme version of a long middle. That said, I can't imagine many batmakers would advertise anything less than a long middle. GM Zona could be one of the few.
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normally it's a pronounced spine that extends from the toe to somewhere just below the splice. Imagine an SS Jumbo as an extreme version of a long middle. That said, I can't imagine many batmakers would advertise anything less than a long middle. GM Zona could be one of the few.
Mmi3, nemesis, laver ultra, hammer vapen core(same bat?)
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MH distinction is the best one, many have tried to copy it and only H4L Tempo comes close.
Try H4L Tempo ..... give them a PM
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Newbury GT.
The middle is wide, and goes further towards the toe than you would think looking at the profile.
my mates gt 335 has a high middle with very little towards the toe, not sure if the 335 differs from the normal gt?
I would say a m&h solution or original low has a long middle, the biggest part is down the bottom but there is a fair amount of wood right up the bat.
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normally it's a pronounced spine that extends from the toe to somewhere just below the splice. Imagine an SS Jumbo as an extreme version of a long middle. That said, I can't imagine many batmakers would advertise anything less than a long middle. GM Zona could be one of the few.
I was wondering, why don't everyone makes long middle bat....surely it could only be a good thing?
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I was wondering, why don't everyone makes long middle bat....surely it could only be a good thing?
Because most big brands are focused on producing bats with huge edges at really low weights, which wouldn't be possible with a really nice long middle. That's why most of the bats talked about on this thread are the more boutique brands.
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Bulldog Pedigree Plus (Slightly altered Amplus shape), Newbery Tour and Tomahawk, Affinity Spectre, H4L Hattori and Tempo. I'm sure I've had plenty more with long middles, but excluding custom shapes, these are the ones which I remember off the top of my head. Longest middle out of these would probably be the Tour(2.11), Pedigree Plus(2.11) or Affinity(2.14), although I couldn't imagine what the Newbery Tomahawk would be like if it was heavier! Weighs just a touch over 2.7!
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I was wondering, why don't everyone makes long middle bat....surely it could only be a good thing?
Longer middle needs more willow (or less taken off) and normally towards the toe of the bat. And the more willow you have lower down the blade, the more it affects pickup.
So it's a compromise between having a long sweetspot or a not so long middle but better pickup.
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Longer middle needs more willow (or less taken off) and normally towards the toe of the bat. And the more willow you have lower down the blade, the more it affects pickup.
So it's a compromise between having a long sweetspot or a not so long middle but better pickup.
That's the only explanation I can come up with in my head as well.
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Because most big brands are focused on producing bats with huge edges at really low weights, which wouldn't be possible with a really nice long middle. That's why most of the bats talked about on this thread are the more boutique brands.
What's the fascination with huge edges....huge edges seem to be a top selling point.
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What's the fascination with huge edges....huge edges seem to be a top selling point.
It makes your bat look bigger i guess is the main one. Most wood jealousy is caused by edge size so I guess it spread from there.
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Bats with long middles generally have a high spine running through from the sweet spot to high up into the back of the blade, like the distinction profile, bats with minimal concaving generally have large wide sweet spots, i.e the tour. A combination of the two would produce the biggest sweet spot. But you have to remember the cleft itself and the pressing is just as important to have a nice big sweet spot.
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GM Purist
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GM bats such as the icon , flare have big middles as well as most kookaburra bats
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SS LE has along middle and the pick up is awesome.
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Why would anyone want a bat with a short middle?
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GM bats such as the icon , flare have big middles as well as most kookaburra bats
Disagree with the Kookaburra, I found most of them to have small middles! The only model I remember having a long middle was the Beast, although I may have just been unlucky. That being said, my brother's Ricochet is going nicely, although it doesn't have a long middle, it is relatively responsive for a good proportion of the blade.
Bats with long middles generally have a high spine running through from the sweet spot to high up into the back of the blade, like the distinction profile, bats with minimal concaving generally have large wide sweet spots, i.e the tour. A combination of the two would produce the biggest sweet spot. But you have to remember the cleft itself and the pressing is just as important to have a nice big sweet spot.
Personally found the Tour to have a really long sweetspot too, and was surprised at how it performs just as well as (if not better than) bats with a higher and defined spine. You wouldn't expect it from a bat with no spine, but it is a £300+ bat! If you can handle a bat around 2.10+ which picks up the same as it weighs, then I think the Tour is a good option, and Mike is right, the cleft and pressing is just as important.
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Why would anyone want a bat with a short middle?
If you're so good as to hit the ball in the same spot every time then i guess you want a smaller more concentrated middle, rather then a weaker but better spread one.