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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: jimster on August 01, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
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Im sure majority of people on here saw the latest wicket taken by England including the review by Khawaja. Even supporting England i for some reason an shocked at the decision to dismiss Khawaja. Hot spot and slow motion clearly showed on the review that he did not hit the ball and the noise was in fact him hitting his thigh pad. Why was the decision not over turned? Its ridiculous.
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Someone must lose their job, they are simply not up to the task of making simple decisions and surely not good enough to be umpiring the biggest series in International cricket.
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There did seem to be another noise after the bat hit the pad just as the ball passed the bat. Whilst the evidence didn't show a nick it wasn't obviously a howler or the umpire wouldn't have looked at numerous angles etc. I don't think it was out but decision stays with the onfield umpire
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Someone must lose their job, they are simply not up to the task of making simple decisions and surely not good enough to be umpiring the biggest series in International cricket.
There was a second noise which on the slow motion reply seened to come as the ball went past the edge however hot spot and the replay from behind showed he was not close to hitting the ball, surely that is enough to give the decision not out but obviously that's not 'conclusive' enough these days
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It's quite simply a laugh, the umpires have been terrible this series.
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the problem is the ICC and the rules. Umpires call is the most stupid thing I've ever seen. The technology is pretty blameless but has to prove the umpire wrong now. When they first started using DRS all it had to do was show nothing had hit the bat and the decision was overtuned. Now it has to prove beyond any doubt, so the ump get's away with a shocker. The LBW law is a farce, if the ump say's it was hitting then it only has to skim the stumps but the bowlers have to have half the ball inside the stumps.
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The entire system needs an overhaul I'm sure we'll all agree!
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I am sure that some of the poor decisions from the Umpires for both teams in this series will force a review of improvements?
Or at least we should live in hope.
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There was a second noise which on the slow motion reply seened to come as the ball went past the edge however hot spot and the replay from behind showed he was not close to hitting the ball, surely that is enough to give the decision not out but obviously that's not 'conclusive' enough these days
There was a side-on slow-mo with sound (and snicko - I know snicko is not allowed) showing the second noise coming AFTER the ball passed the bat. Pity this was only shown after Khawaja was back in the pavilion. I can only summise that the 3rd umpire did not have access to this particular side-on replay or it would have been overturned. If that's the case, then the technology failed also...
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Makes DRS pointless. That is exactly what it was brought in for in the first place, to overturn the really bad mistakes. If that decision can't be overturned then there is no point having it and we should just go back to the umpires decision is final.
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That decision transcends Ashes rivalry and should unite all cricket fans regardless of their loyalty of the disgrace that is the DRS.
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It's a shame we keep talking about the poor use of DRS instead of the great cricket being played
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No issues with the technology, just the idiots implementing it.
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No issues with the technology, just the idiots implementing it.
Exactly!!!
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It's a shame we keep talking about the poor use of DRS instead of the great cricket being played
Unfortunately this.
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The idea of DRS is great. Should stop the poor decisions and stop teams getting shocking decisions. As with everything though, sides work out how to use it to their advantage and Anallise where things can be exploited. I think Khawaja was unlucky, however England must have known with the technology there it was unlikely to go against the umpires call.
Ultimately I think that is where the system fails by giving too much credit to the on field umpire.
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It was out!
well given out anyways...
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Dharmasena could have overturned the decision. The second noise was definitely not when the ball passed the edge as shown from the square cameras.
And why can't snicko be used as part of the DRS? It can be an aid for the umpire surely.
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Dharmasena could have overturned the decision. The second noise was definitely not when the ball passed the edge as shown from the square cameras.
And why can't snicko be used as part of the DRS? It can be an aid for the umpire surely.
Takes too much time to set it up. The instant one on tele isn't accurate enough although gives a fair indication
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Thanks for that. Learnt something new. Didn't know that.
But surely in this case, there was a gap and the 3rd umpire could have overturned. What do you think? Or is there some ambiguity with the rules regarding overturning??
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I think there were two decisions today which highlight the ridiculousness of the review system, and a third that confirms it.
Khawaja's was a turkey. You could tell watching live that he was nowhere near the ball and nothing on the TV replays offered any convincing reason to believe that he was.
The England review against Smith was almost as bad - no hotspot (which makes you wonder whether something is being applied to bats), but a clear noise that could only have been bat on ball and a deviation. Should have been gone.
Then, having lost a review that they should have got, Smith is given not out to one of the plumbest LBWs but England couldn't review it!
Might as well do away with the system!
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Poor DRS system !! BCCI laughing --- :)
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Manormanic has actually raised an important point: about substances applied to bats to fool hotspot.
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Manormanic has actually raised an important point: about substances applied to bats to fool hotspot.
I don't buy to be honest.
If you applied vaseline or something similar to somehow fool hotspot, the edge of your bat would look darker, not to mention be damp.
Surely an umpire and camera's would pick that up?
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You'd hope so, but you never know. Some strange goings on today but that's cricket I guess.
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khawaja not out, steve smith out twice caught behind and lbw!!
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I have just seen the replay, there is a hotspot mark on usman's back pad.
the replay also shows what looks like a deflection.
I can see why it was given.
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If DRS can be so uncertain with all this technology...why cant we accept normal umpiring decisions( with some % of human error) and let the game be the way it was...BCCI will be laughing their (No Swearing Please) off!!!
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DRS is pretty much ok, about 98%.
The terrible standard of umpiring is beyond a joke.
Tony Hill, Kumar Dharmasena and Marais Erasmus(pains me to bag my own countryman) aren't 'Elite" level.
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bring back billy bowden
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There was a second noise which on the slow motion reply seened to come as the ball went past the edge however hot spot and the replay from behind showed he was not close to hitting the ball, surely that is enough to give the decision not out but obviously that's not 'conclusive' enough these days
Handles can crack. It was an absolute howler!
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There's was wrong with DRS in this case, it clearly showed Khawaja as not being out - hot spot, slow motion, everything pointed to it clearly being not out. The problem in this case was human error, and it was a massive error at that.
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Its a disgrace! He had all the evidence and didn't overturn the decision!!
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I'm really not sure as to why Khawaja was given out when their wasn't any evidence of an edge. Some of the umpiring decisions really haven't been up to scratch and needs to be looked at. The DRS system may need a looking at to, minor adjustments to help the bigger picture.
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it was given on sound im guessing therefore I don't think sound should be an option in DRS