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Title: England Lions Game
Post by: FattusCattus on August 20, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
Have you seen what Luke Wright is doing to the Banglasdeshis?

He's mashing them around with 61* off 26 balls.

I like this approach very much.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: BIG.G on August 20, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
Haha, does he hit as big a ball as your good self FC?. On another note, never understood the purpose behind these England Lions games. Always thought it was for emerging younger cricketers, not those in their 30's.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Sam on August 20, 2013, 12:44:30 PM
If basically Hampshire 2nd XI beat them , this will be an interesting game  ;).
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 20, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
Some of the counties must be well pleased about call-ups for this game. Hampshire, in particular. They will be without Carberry, Vince and Briggs for their game at Old Trafford tonight.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Sam on August 20, 2013, 01:06:16 PM
Some of the counties must be well pleased about call-ups for this game. Hampshire, in particular. They will be without Carberry, Vince and Briggs for their game at Old Trafford tonight.

Especially annoying when a win tonight guarantees us a QF place  :(.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: cricketbadger on August 20, 2013, 01:07:25 PM
ballance, plunkett and lees missing for yorkshire big game against notts, brilliant, cheers, absolutely pointless, they'd get more out of a game against a tough notts side in a meaningful game, as opposed to smashing some poor bangladesh's allover
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: smilley792 on August 20, 2013, 01:16:18 PM
Balance and wright both have tons in a 200plus partnership.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: The_Bird on August 20, 2013, 01:30:17 PM
Ballance has to be involved in the ODI's now. Looks a top player taking his chance.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: uknsaunders on August 20, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
Butler must have massive pad rash. thanks for coming lol
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Sam on August 20, 2013, 01:36:34 PM
Can't they quickly send Vince and Carberry up to OT now and stick in two sub fielders of some sort  >:(.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: cricketbadger on August 20, 2013, 01:38:45 PM
Ballance 2 tons in the last 2 lions games, surely a proper england call-up beckons
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: jw17 on August 20, 2013, 01:46:14 PM
Ballance is twice the player Bairstow is and has twice the FC hundreds in less innings, how he hasn't kicked him out the test team yet is beyond me!
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: King pair on August 20, 2013, 02:04:52 PM
Balance is class but surely Taylor is in line before him? Taylor not a natural 6 but easily better than bairstow.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: cricketbadger on August 20, 2013, 02:06:34 PM
I agree Ballance is far better than Bairstow in the longer form of the game, and I'd say he deserves a chance soon, ahead of Taylor
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: The_Bird on August 20, 2013, 02:15:30 PM
I'd say that Bairstow is being growed for the Keeping spot when prior goes but he still needs to score way more runs as a No.6
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on August 20, 2013, 08:34:43 PM
superb batting from the England boys today, raining 6's at one point from Wright and Balance....we had a final score prediction sweepstake at 35 overs down and some of us ended up 80-90 runs out they went that mental!

less said about the run chase the better wasnt exactly edge of your seat stuff!
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: jamesisapayne on August 20, 2013, 08:48:22 PM
Ballance is twice the player Bairstow is and has twice the FC hundreds in less innings, how he hasn't kicked him out the test team yet is beyond me!

This.

Bairstow must have something on the selectors, I seriously don't understand how he's better than Ballance/Carberry - It would also be one less player for the 'Professional Yorshiremen' Vaughan and Boycott to keep harping on about!

Not sure about the groomed for keeping thing - he never keeps for England and he hardly ever plays for Yorkshire due to his England commitments. The form Kieswetter's in at the moment, is he inline for a recall?
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: SillyShilly on August 21, 2013, 08:38:59 AM
Anyone from the forum going to watch the game tomorrow at Taunton? I'm headed in and it would be good to say hello to any forumites that might be partaking in a spot of cider and a day of top class cricket!
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on August 21, 2013, 08:42:29 AM
not sure yet mate, got offered a ticket yesterday but if its as one sided as yesterdays game i may just stay for our batting!
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: SillyShilly on August 21, 2013, 08:51:09 AM
thats not a bad shout, could be even more runs on the card tomorrow. Afterwards we could always pop into m&h and debunk that myth about their bats being pre-made :)
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 21, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Murdering Bangladeshi A bowling in a one-day friendly proves absolutely nothing about suitability for Test cricket.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Gerry SA on August 21, 2013, 12:48:09 PM
Ballance's stats look might fine, but if you look at them more carefully - he's piled on plenty of runs in Zimbabwe against very modest bowlers.

First class record:

West West Rhinos
Matches: 17
Runs: 1811
Average: 67.07
Hundreds: 10
Fifties: 4

Yorkshire:
Matches: 44
Runs: 2528
Average: 46.81
Hundreds: 5
Fifties: 17

List A:

Mid West Rhinos
Matches: 13
Runs: 608
Average: 60.80
Hundreds: 3
Fifties: 1

Yorkshire/Derbyshire/England Lions
Matches: 40
Runs: 1774
Average: 55.43
Hundreds: 3
Fifties: 12

Overall his record is England is mighty fine, but his first class record is worst than Bairstow's.

Ballance is a great limited over player though.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: smilley792 on August 22, 2013, 01:26:38 PM
England lions go bigger, 367 this time.

Carberry with a big ton. And Taylor a century too. Butler and stokes smashing runs for fun at the end,
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 24, 2013, 10:26:21 AM
England lions go bigger, 367 this time.

Carberry with a big ton. And Taylor a century too. Butler and stokes smashing runs for fun at the end,

Perhaps the bowling's not very good?
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Manormanic on August 24, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Bairstow must have something on the selectors, I seriously don't understand how he's better than Ballance/Carberry - It would also be one less player for the 'Professional Yorshiremen' Vaughan and Boycott to keep harping on about!

I think its close between the two Bs and Carberry's age (and possibly health issues) mean he is a less likely selection.

The case for Bairstow's defence - he has average mid 40s whilst keeping in the Championship, and has consistently played innings of character - he's always the lad who does it in a run chase or when we're 20-3, and he evidenced this against the Yarpies last year.  He has not been best treated by the selectors - after that Test he played very little cricket whilst racking up the air miles for eight months, and he struggled a bit to get back into the swing.  He has not done badly against Australia either - no worse than Cook, Trott and Prior for a start - and is the likely long term successor to Prior.

People might baulk at the last bat - believe me, I'm one of them, because Jonny's keeping has never been, for example, at the level of his old man's.  But England are obsessed with the idea of like for like and, as a counter attacking batsman at seven, they will hope his keeping improves as Matties did in situ.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 24, 2013, 03:48:39 PM
Jonny's keeping has never been, for example, at the level of his old man's. 

Really? His father, while undoubtedly a very charismatic cricketer, was no great glove-man.

I reckon keeping wicket is probably something you need to be doing every day?
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: sgcricket on August 24, 2013, 07:16:10 PM
Surprising to see Bangladesh pull one over the Lions.
Title: Re: England Lions Game
Post by: Manormanic on August 24, 2013, 08:02:49 PM
Really? His father, while undoubtedly a very charismatic cricketer, was no great glove-man.

He wasn't great when compared to others of the same era - Knott, Taylor etc - but was (No Swearing Please) hot compared to most of the specialist batsmen doing it today.