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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: mini998 on September 06, 2013, 11:46:34 AM
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Is there such machine which measures the pickup index? I have heard GM has a chart somewhere but I couldn't find any official information about this.
How does it work? is pickup index 1 supposed to be lighter than 4 in two bats with the same dead weight?
Would be great to know the pickup indexes of the bats you have as well
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GM don't weigh bats at all.
The pickup index is decided by the bat maker.
A 1 pickup is the lightest, a 5 pickup is the heaviest.
http://www.gm-cricket.com/pages/pick-up-index.aspx (http://www.gm-cricket.com/pages/pick-up-index.aspx)
A heavy dead weight bat can have a light pickup, as it is all done on feel. To me it is a beautiful system. I have a Flare Original LE that is 2'11.5 with a pickup index of 1.
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GM don't weigh bats at all.
The pickup index is decided by the bat maker.
A 1 pickup is the lightest, a 5 pickup is the heaviest.
[url]http://www.gm-cricket.com/pages/pick-up-index.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.gm-cricket.com/pages/pick-up-index.aspx[/url])
A heavy dead weight bat can have a light pickup, as it is all done on feel. To me it is a beautiful system. I have a Flare Original LE that is 2'11.5 with a pickup index of 1.
Thanks I came across that page, but where I can find information about the actual pickup index's of bats?
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^ I mean the actual values.
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Ah never knew that.
The description on the label makes little sense though, as it says 1 is control and 5 is power. Surely your 2.11 flare would have more 'power' than a 2.8 one that has a (No Swearing Please) pickup.
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What do you mean? Actual values?
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like for example
Are all GM Argon's have same pickup index? or does it change? How do I know the pickup index of a bat I'm buying?( online or from a shop)
I bought a GM argon but I didnt see any label indicating the pickup index.
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The pickup index only applies to 5 star bats. Which are 909 (or maybe 808) and above.
The index isn't generally advertised on most websites. We always tell any customer who asks what we have, we also order bats in to their specific pickup index if they want one.
All bats are available in all pickups i believe.
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Thanks , mine was 5 star as well, but there weren't any mention about the pickup index , could be just a one off.
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The tags do sometimes come off, i tend to write the index in pen on the twine under the grip as well though.
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Thanks , mine was 5 star as well, but there weren't any mention about the pickup index , could be just a one off.
The 808s up usually have a label around their handle stating the pick-up index. Retailers often remove this.
Ah never knew that.
The description on the label makes little sense though, as it says 1 is control and 5 is power. Surely your 2.11 flare would have more 'power' than a 2.8 one that has a (No Swearing Please) pickup.
Read control as allows the touch player to play all his shots and power as great for the front foot lunger. Think of it as telling you how far it is between an Amplus and an MMi3 in terms of ease of wielding. A pick up index of 5 doesn't mean the pick up is bad, just not as light a pick up as a one.
A 2'11 Flare with a pick up of
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so it's essentially just the height of the middle then, but sure that wouldn't vary from Flare to Flare if there all CNC'd, there that be that much natural variation in the wood, can there?
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so it's essentially just the height of the middle then, but sure that wouldn't vary from Flare to Flare if there all CNC'd, there that be that much natural variation in the wood, can there?
No it's not, the allegory I gave was to demonstrate the difference in pick up. It is nothing to do with the height of the middle. A pick-up of one is generally going to feel balanced more like a higher middled bat while a five will feel more like a lower middled bat. Doesn't mean that the middle is higher or lower.
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Not sure why anyone would want a high middled bat that picks up badly, but there you go.
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Not sure why anyone would want a high middled bat that picks up badly, but there you go.
One persons bad is another persons perfect.
We also have an absolute lump of a Flare at 3'2 with an index of 5, definitely doesn't suit me, but there are some big units out there who throw their hands at the ball who will love it.
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One persons bad is another persons perfect.
This is kind of why I don't like the pick up index system, surely one persons index 1 could be someone's 3. Why not use the actual weights as that is fact, pick index is an interpretation.
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This is kind of why I don't like the pick up index system, surely one persons index 1 could be someone's 3. Why not use the actual weights as that is fact, pick index is an interpretation.
And yet from experience at the Batoffs, most people rate one bat very similarly, even when they don't know other people's ratings. A pick-up index of 5 says to me it picks up heavy. It doesn't mean that it picks up badly and you'll find that some like a bat to feel like that.
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Pickup is an interpretation true.
I believe GM have 2-3 chaps give their thoughts on each bat and as a group they decide which of the 5 numbers it is.
Problem with weights is they can change (moisture loss/gain) also do you give the weight naked or stickered & gripped? Also many people round down the weights. So something that is almost 2'11 will get listed as 2'10
No system is perfect. I"ll be honest and say I very rarely see a bat where the weight on my scale matches the one the manufacturer has written on it.
I really like GM's system, the flare I mentioned before is a perfect example of it. Speak to Chad, he picked it up and was adamant it was 2'8 max. His jaw dropped when I said nearly 2'12
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Pickup is an interpretation true.
I believe GM have 2-3 chaps give their thoughts on each bat and as a group they decide which of the 5 numbers it is.
Problem with weights is they can change (moisture loss/gain) also do you give the weight naked or stickered & gripped? Also many people round down the weights. So something that is almost 2'11 will get listed as 2'10
No system is perfect. I"ll be honest and say I very rarely see a bat where the weight on my scale matches the one the manufacturer has written on it.
I really like GM's system, the flare I mentioned before is a perfect example of it. Speak to Chad, he picked it up and was adamant it was 2'8 max. His jaw dropped when I said nearly 2'12
Honestly, it picked up extremely light, I thought it was 2'8 and I wouldn't get on with it, which is why I tested it last. I thought Jake was kidding me when he said 2'12, as I had always heard Flares don't pick up well, so expected it to be 2'8 or 2'9 at the very max. You barely had to hit the ball and it rocketed, and the bat speed and follow through didn't feel anything like what a 2'12 should have, while the performance of a 2'12 was there. I think that's the beauty of the pick-up index, although a pick up index with a weight would be an ideal system! I would have snapped that bat up, it felt so much better than any GM I've used, and is probably among the best I've used. It has been a demo model for a while though, and just shows that playing in a bat well is the way to get the most out of it!
If anyone is going to Vitas for a net and visit, I would definitely recommend using the Flare, it's the one GM bat which has changed my opinion entirely about the performance of GM bats!