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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Leddster138 on September 12, 2013, 12:17:54 PM

Title: What a shame
Post by: Leddster138 on September 12, 2013, 12:17:54 PM
I spotted a MC Spartan 1000 on the Lords website priced up at £2.40 on Tuesday. To my shame I put in an order to see what would happen and rightfully got an email in the evening saying it was a misprice and did I want to cancelled or pay the difference (£237.60). I cancelled and the customer adviser gave me the money back and said the order would be cancelled.

Unfortunately today, the bat arrived at my work and shes a beaut. I'm not sure it's worth £240 (I can't tap it up at work) but it's still a very good looking stick. It's 2.8, picks up very well and has enormous edges. I've never given a 2nd thought to Spartans for many reasons but I'm impressed and I really like the shape. Anyway, I thought I'd pop up a few pictures before I sent it back.

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_120923.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Leddster/media/20130912_120923.jpg.html)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_120939.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Leddster/media/20130912_120939.jpg.html)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_120944.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Leddster/media/20130912_120944.jpg.html)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_120954.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Leddster/media/20130912_120954.jpg.html)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_121017.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Leddster/media/20130912_121017.jpg.html)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_121026.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Leddster/media/20130912_121026.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Marc28 on September 12, 2013, 12:26:05 PM
Shes a stunner there mate,
i've seen worse bats priced a lot higher than that.
Pity you don't want to keep her as i'm sure you would be the envy at your club if you did
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Jacky on September 12, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Don't retailers have to sell at the advertised price?
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: TangoWhiskey on September 12, 2013, 12:30:09 PM
Good on you for doing the honourable thing.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Kulli on September 12, 2013, 12:31:32 PM
If they haven't charged you I'd be waiting to see if they ask for it back or not ;)
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: TangoWhiskey on September 12, 2013, 12:32:37 PM
If they haven't charged you I'd be waiting to see if they ask for it back or not ;)

Mind you he could always give them back the £2.40....
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Vitas Cricket on September 12, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
Don't retailers have to sell at the advertised price?

Not online or over the phone, no. The law falls on the side of retailers, citing human error.

Mail order is a grey area.

In store. Technically they can refuse to sell at the erroneous marked price up until the point where they start scanning your purchases at the till. Most will honour the price in store anyway, but if you ever find yourself in a situation where they refuse, the law is definitely on the customers side:

Providing you aren't breaking any laws (eg buying alcohol when underage) the retailer enters a contract to sell you all the goods in your basket/trolley at the marked prices as soon as the first item is scanned at the till.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Dan W on September 12, 2013, 12:43:36 PM
Can't you just keep it?
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: trypewriter on September 12, 2013, 12:49:14 PM
Don't retailers have to sell at the advertised price?
No, that's a popular misconception - a marked price is legally known as 'an invitation to treat' eg negotiate.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Leddster138 on September 12, 2013, 12:50:53 PM
I think retailers need a break when it comes to this kind of thing. It did cross my mind but I felt bad enough after I ordered it so I'd just rather give it back. It always comes out of someones pocket.

The shame of it all is that it's a really nice bat, I wish they had sent some rubbish as it'd be much easier to part with :)
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Nato on September 12, 2013, 01:00:47 PM
That is a nice lump of wood. Wonder if it makes you play like a test captain?
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Jimmyg on September 12, 2013, 01:01:46 PM
It reminds me off when I ordered a pair of gloves off Willostixs and they posted in error a rather nice bat. Being a trustworthy sort I phoned Willostixs to tell them about the error and arrange its return, which was a bit of a pain as they expected me to pay for the postage! Eventually they organized a courier to pick the bat up from me. For my troubles the gloves never arrived, due to them being out of stock, despite repeated assurances that they would be in stock "in a couple of days" which never materialized. Then after 4 weeks of this I asked for a refund, which in itself took weeks and numerous phone calls to get them to refund the money. Afterwards wished I hadn't returned the bat!
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on September 12, 2013, 01:04:49 PM
I ordered a mjonir players bat on Monday from Cicada sports. Advertised @ £62. Sale went through, then got an email the next day saying the bat had a fault and had to be sent back to newbery. Would of preferred them to be honest and say it was mis priced rather than lying.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: mini998 on September 12, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
OT - No disrespect to this bat or Spartan,  I feel that profile is very similar to the SS Torpedo I had.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img51/8639/20130418153027.jpg)


(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_120939.jpg)
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: yvk3103 on September 12, 2013, 01:35:32 PM
Surprised to see the bat has no hologram.

How is the handle?? I saw a few and the handles were rubbish and 2 even had nails hammered in !!!
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: EaglesCC on September 12, 2013, 02:07:48 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this isn't 'all that' - I mean for that sort of money you can pick up something quite special from a forum sponsor.

Granted it looks big for a 2'8 but again that's not something unique these days.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Leddster138 on September 12, 2013, 02:15:41 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this isn't 'all that' - I mean for that sort of money you can pick up something quite special from a forum sponsor.

Granted it looks big for a 2'8 but again that's not something unique these days.

I agree, £240 goes a long way on here, which is why I wouldn't buy it but it's 100 times better than I thought it would be.

On a side note, doing a quick search on the internet and £240 is actually a really good price for this so keep an eye on Lords online as they've got some well priced items on there.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Manormanic on September 12, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
In store. Technically they can refuse to sell at the erroneous marked price up until the point where they start scanning your purchases at the till. Most will honour the price in store anyway, but if you ever find yourself in a situation where they refuse, the law is definitely on the customers side:

They can refuse to sell but most retailers don't as their avenue to do so is to remove the item from sale entirely - this can cause chaos for supermarkets, who are the most common makers of such errors!
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: tim2000s on September 12, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
I was always under the impression that the point at which a retailer could not refuse to sell was actually only once money had changed hands, as technically that's the point at which the contract is confirmed. Up until then, either party can back out.

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Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Vitas Cricket on September 12, 2013, 10:52:20 PM
I was always under the impression that the point at which a retailer could not refuse to sell was actually only once money had changed hands, as technically that's the point at which the contract is confirmed. Up until then, either party can back out.

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I'm almost certain the seller can withdraw at any time if they have priced something incorrectly, if sold via distance selling anyway.

The customer can withdraw from the contract (if purchase is made via distance selling) up until the point where the goods are dispatched. I have threatened to cancel and get a refund on a number of occasions in the past after being sent incorrect goods. Because the goods i ordered haven't yet been dispatched there is no contract. Most companies quickly organise a courier to collect the wrongly sent item and usually give a voucher for money off or send a free gift when my correct item arrives as a form of apology. But i have had 3 occasions in the past year where they process my refund but never bother to collect the incorrectly sent items, resulting in an ebay profit of circa £180.

If anyone ever needs any advice in this field i am happy to help. I am by no means an expert but it was a big part of my studies in a former life. The Which website is a good resource too.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: tim2000s on September 13, 2013, 05:37:31 AM
Sorry Jake, I was referring to in store rather than on line.

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Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: smokem on September 13, 2013, 06:00:02 AM
OT - No disrespect to this bat or Spartan,  I feel that profile is very similar to the SS Torpedo I had.

([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img51/8639/20130418153027.jpg[/url])


([url]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/Leddster/20130912_120939.jpg[/url])

Side profile? Maybe... The difference is the SS is concaved like there's no tomorrow whereas that Spartan has almost no concaving. That's a massive difference right there. ;)
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: Vitas Cricket on September 13, 2013, 12:41:28 PM
Sorry Jake, I was referring to in store rather than on line.

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Consumer laws are always evolving, but when i studied this area the law read as follows, paraphrasing of course:

The contract between retailer and customer commences as soon as the first item in the customers basket/trolley/etc is scanned at the till, providing no laws are being broken by the customer.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: simonmay5 on September 13, 2013, 01:17:14 PM
Side profile? Maybe... The difference is the SS is concaved like there's no tomorrow whereas that Spartan has almost no concaving. That's a massive difference right there. ;)

It looks a bit like the hammer 156/ fyrre as well
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: mussaduq on September 13, 2013, 06:39:21 PM
Shape of this Spartan bat is awesome !
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: mattw on September 13, 2013, 07:05:15 PM
Looks like a cheap Asian made bat to me personally.
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: RossViper on September 13, 2013, 09:19:42 PM
With regards to distance selling, the seller can even cancel the sale, AFTER, they have taken your money, if they stipulate when the contract is formed... Which most now do... at the point of dispatch, not check out. I know this because of an expriance with debemhas.... Never shop with them if you can help it!

In the uk, for a contract to be legal it needs to have "consideration" for both sides, I.e. be fair.... I'm sure you could argue a decent case for the point of dispatch not being fair for both sides....