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General Cricket => World Cricket => Topic started by: arsenal123 on September 17, 2013, 03:43:16 PM
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Exactly what it says on the tin. Decent surface, bit in it for batsmen and bowlers. Name your team. Players in their recent form of the last year or two.
Mine first.
1. Cook
2. Smith
3. Amla
4. Kallis
5. Clarke
6. Pietersen
7. De Villiers (wk)
8. Swann
9. Ajmal
10. Steyn
11. Anderson
4 English, 5 Saffers, 1 Aussie, 1 Pakistani. Was unsure on the balance of the side, Philander somehow has missed out, could possibly come in for one of the spinners. No Trott/Bell/Prior/Morkel/any Indian!
Anyone got any better sides?
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Steve Smiffy opening the batting?? Haha
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Steve Smith is my hero. He shows that any batsman with a club cricket technique can get into the Aussie Ashes batting line up ;)
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Exactly what it says on the tin. Decent surface, bit in it for batsmen and bowlers. Name your team. Players in their recent form of the last year or two.
Mine first.
1. Cook
2. Smith
3. Amla
4. Kallis
5. Clarke
6. Pietersen
7. De Villiers (wk)
8. Swann
9. Ajmal
10. Steyn
11. Anderson
4 English, 5 Saffers, 1 Aussie, 1 Pakistani. Was unsure on the balance of the side, Philander somehow has missed out, could possibly come in for one of the spinners. No Trott/Bell/Prior/Morkel/any Indian!
Anyone got any better sides?
I rate Philander and Ryan Harris higher than Anderson, just my personal view. I would probably swap out Swann/Ajmal and Anderson for those two. Depends who the opposition are and where they are playing to be honest! Based on current form, I would say Bell deserves a place in the side, but hard to see who he would replace!
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Cook
Greame Smith
Amla
Sangakkara
Peterson
Clarke
ABD (WK)
Philander
Steyn
Anderson
Ajmal
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Based on the current ICC rankings, with a little tweaking
1 A.N. Cook
2 G.C. Smith
3 H.M. Amla
4 K.C. Sangakkara
5 M.J. Clarke
6 J.H. Kallis
7 A.B. de Villiers (keeper)
8 Saeed Ajmal
9 V.D. Philander
10 D.W. Steyn
11 J.M. Anderson
Bench R.J. Harris
G.P. Swann
S. Chanderpaul
Clarke, Cook or Smith to captain... not really sure
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When I first read the title I mistakenly thought it said 'Worst Test Eleven'. I read Cook's name and thought that's a good start! He maybe prolific but boy he's dull to watch. Names like Tavare and Pringle soon sprang to mind. Then I read the rest of the team list and realised my mistake.
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Steve Smith is my hero. He shows that any batsman with a club cricket technique can get into the Aussie Ashes batting line up ;)
if he can get a test match hundred with his village technique there's hope for us all! :D
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This is probably tougher now than it has been for a few years as the likes of Ponting and Tendulkar slide away and a new generation try to stake their claims. As such, there are surprisingly few nailed on selections for me - no opener really stands out, and once you go past Amla and Clarke you could probably perm from about six or seven names for the remaining middle order slots (Kallis being on the down slope now). Keeper is a comparative embarrassment of riches, with the pure glovework of Jayawardene competing against the classic counter attack of Prior and the conservative options of Sangakkara and De Villiers who are both primarily batsmen. As for the bowlers, Steyn is a nailed on certainty but then any combination of Philander, Anderson, Morkel, Harris, Siddle, Roach, Boult and Broad would have some arguable merit, whilst the debate between Swann and Ajmal is one that could easily fill a whole night in the pub.
My side, for what its worth, is based on the principle that I want to attack rather than sit on the back foot or pack the side with all rounders:
GC Smith
AN Cook (though I seriously considered a left field selection of Chris Rogers as I think his technique has been worked over less)
HM Amla
KP Pietersen
MJ Clarke
AB De Villiers (wkt)
VD Philander
GC Swann or T Boult depending on conditions
DW Steyn
JM Anderson
Saeed Ajmal
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Cook
Smith
Trott
Amla
Sangakara
Clark
Prior WK
Philander
Swan
Steyn
Anderson
To me that is the best world test 11 at present, maybe a little bias on Trott and Prior on current form at this moment but based on last 18 months I think they warrant there places. 4 main bowlers with Trott, Clark and even KP can turn there arms over.
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Based on the current ICC rankings, with a little tweaking
1 A.N. Cook
2 G.C. Smith
3 H.M. Amla
4 K.C. Sangakkara
5 M.J. Clarke
6 J.H. Kallis
7 A.B. de Villiers (keeper)
8 Saeed Ajmal
9 V.D. Philander
10 D.W. Steyn
11 J.M. Anderson
I like the look of this team, but would swap Kallis and Sanga in the batting lineup.
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Slightly off topic ish,
I think the icc should do a one of test match every year.
Worlds no1 vs the rest of the world xi
Would south Africa cube able to beat the Rest of the world xi at mo? And what would be that xi?
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K Powell
G Smith
H Amla
J Kallis
I Bell
AB de Villiers+
B McCullum*
S Broad/Philanderer
R Harris
S Ajmal
D Steyn
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Am I the only one who doesn't rate Graeme Smith that highly? I'll be honest, the bulk of innings I've seen him play have been against Australia and his record against us isn't great (averages 37), but is he really one of the best two opening bats going around in world cricket at the moment? I'm not suggesting he's terrible or anything, just posing the question.
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A gritty player who churns out runs for his team when required most. Also a 50 average over a 10 year international career almost entirely spent as captain.
I'm a big fan.
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Am I the only one who doesn't rate Graeme Smith that highly? I'll be honest, the bulk of innings I've seen him play have been against Australia and his record against us isn't great (averages 37), but is he really one of the best two opening bats going around in world cricket at the moment? I'm not suggesting he's terrible or anything, just posing the question.
Unreal player. Great captain too! I remember (just) watching him at Somerset and I think he scored 300 in a day. Unbelievable innings!
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This is probably tougher now than it has been for a few years as the likes of Ponting and Tendulkar slide away and a new generation try to stake their claims. As such, there are surprisingly few nailed on selections for me - no opener really stands out, and once you go past Amla and Clarke you could probably perm from about six or seven names for the remaining middle order slots (Kallis being on the down slope now). Keeper is a comparative embarrassment of riches, with the pure glovework of Jayawardene competing against the classic counter attack of Prior and the conservative options of Sangakkara and De Villiers who are both primarily batsmen. As for the bowlers, Steyn is a nailed on certainty but then any combination of Philander, Anderson, Morkel, Harris, Siddle, Roach, Boult and Broad would have some arguable merit, whilst the debate between Swann and Ajmal is one that could easily fill a whole night in the pub.
My side, for what its worth, is based on the principle that I want to attack rather than sit on the back foot or pack the side with all rounders:
GC Smith
AN Cook (though I seriously considered a left field selection of Chris Rogers as I think his technique has been worked over less)
HM Amla
KP Pietersen
MJ Clarke
AB De Villiers (wkt)
VD Philander
GC Swann or T Boult depending on conditions
DW Steyn
JM Anderson
Saeed Ajmal
Trent Boult should be no where near a worlds best test 11 yet that's a shocking shout.
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Slightly off topic ish,
I think the icc should do a one of test match every year.
Worlds no1 vs the rest of the world xi
Would south Africa cube able to beat the Rest of the world xi at mo? And what would be that xi?
When i did the lords tour last month the guide was saying there was a one-off ODI being played as the MCC vs the rest of the world next year to celebrate 200 (i think) years at Lords. I think a similar game was played before for the previous milestone (150) and this was a test match. he said they couldnt do a test match this time round as it was so difficult to get a side of top players available from around the world with all of the different schedules etc
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K Powell
G Smith
H Amla
J Kallis
I Bell
AB de Villiers+
B McCullum*
S Broad/Philanderer
R Harris
S Ajmal
D Steyn
Joke?
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Trent Boult should be no where near a worlds best test 11 yet that's a shocking shout.
No it isn't. I want five bowlers because I firmly believe that that is the way to win test matches. If the conditions do not suit two spinners then I want some variety amongst my four seamers - I have Steyn who is outright quick, Philander who nags it round off the seam and Anderson who does the hoops - that leaves space for either a left armer or an out and out gas bowler - of whom there are precious few candidates. So of the left armers, tell me who has been better than Boult in the last eighteen months? Starc? Johnson? Zaheer? None of them... so I go for Boult rather than an identikit attack.
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Joke?
I thought that there should be a spot for a young buck and given that other opening choices are uninspiring, why not go for someone a bit different? I quite enjoy watching him bat and he has potential.
So no. Not a joke.
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I thought that there should be a spot for a young buck and given that other opening choices are uninspiring, why not go for someone a bit different? I quite enjoy watching him bat and he has potential.
So no. Not a joke.
Why would you ever pick Powell in front of Cook/Sangakarra/Root?
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I did. I wanted some flair at the top. It's completely hypothetical.
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I did. I wanted some flair at the top. It's completely hypothetical.
BTW he average 23.73 when you take out Zimbabwe and Bangladesh from his stats.
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It's a list of eleven names. I quite like him.
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Cook
Amla
Chanderpaul
M.Clarke
Misbah
Bell
De Villers (WK)
Ajmal
Steyn
Anderson
M.Irfan
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For what it's worth...
1. Smith
2. Cook
3. Amla
4. Pietersen
5. Clarke (c)
6. De Villiers
7. Prior (wk)
8. Philander
9. Steyn
10. Ajmal
11. Anderson
Went with a specialist keeper, which enables ABD to focus on batting - if I were going for five bowlers I'd pick Swann as well, but it leaves a pretty long tail (not that it should be a problem with the top 6!).
Clarke to skipper as I like his approach to captaincy. I'm not saying that Smith and Cook aren't excellent captains; they are, but Clarke gets the nod for his creativity and he raises his game as skipper.
Would love to find a place for Sangakkara, I think he's superb, but can't look past Amla's current form at 3. Ajmal seems to consistently be taking 5-fers and 10 wkts, so gets the nod over Swann for a bit of mystery as well.
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interesting TO NOTE THAT - DESPITE THE STRONG BATTING ORDERS THAT ARE INEVITABLE AND THE FACT THAT OPENING IS EASILY THE WEAKEST SPOT HERE, NOT ONE PERSON HAS MENTIONED cHRIS gAYLE....
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Few beers MM?
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BTW he average 23.73 when you take out Zimbabwe and Bangladesh from his stats.
Why would you ever pick Powell in front of Cook/Sangakarra/Root?
Failing to see a point here... Alvaro has picked a player, you don't agree, don't try and talk him out of it, it's his decision...
Trent Boult should be no where near a worlds best test 11 yet that's a shocking shout.
Same goes here. Actually, Boult was different gravy against us, and he's an extremely attacking bowler who also happens to give you very little to hit. I can't think of many (many, not ANY) better quick bowlers going around at the moment, and he's more consistent than some I can think of who people would say are better...
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I've been thinking about it for a bit and gone through a ranges of players and back again. I think you need at least 5 recognised bowlers, and a good mix. I don't understand those who pick two keepers if there are noticeably better batsmen about. I also agree in part with MM in Gayle would be a good choice. I am picking this on a decent batting track, no hint of rain (so will last 5 days) and turn in the 4th innings.
Gayle
Smith (c)
Trott
Amla
Kallis
Watson
De Villiers (w)
Swann
Steyn
Harris
Ajmal
There are a couple of names there that might be a bit left field. Harris has shown he is a good bowler.
I also have Watson. For all his faults, he is à decent all-rounder and fielder.
One off game, so Gayle can go ballistic and is my part-time spinner as well if Swann and Ajmal are not firing.
Trot and Amla to grind the opposition down for a couple of days.
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Few beers MM?
I wish! Didn't notice that I'd got caps lock on the wrong way until I'd posted it!
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This would be my current World Test Team...
Graeme Smith (c)
Alastair Cook
Hashim Amala
Michael Clark
Misbah ul-Haq
Jacques Kallis
AB de Villiers (wk)
Saeed Ajmal
Vernon Philander
Dale Steyn
James Anderson
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1. Smith (c)
2. Amla
3. Watson
4. Clarke
5. Bell
6. De villiers (wk)
7. Siddle
8.Harris/Swann
9. Ajmal
10. Anderson
11. Steyn
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I ve hardly followed cricket since the exit of great names like ricky rahul VVS, sachin and jacques struggling to match their own standards.
Still will try to make my eleven
A COOK
S DHAWAN
H AMLA
V KOHLI(pretty hard for me to name someone else at this position because of sachin :( )
M CLARKE
K P
A B D(WK)
G SWANN
STEYN
J ANDERSON
M MORKEL
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Dhawan and Kohli? Interesting selections given the former has only played one test and the latter has done nothing since his first series!
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Dhawan actually averages 187 in Tests this calendar year. Granted, he's only played one Test innings of 187, but it sounds good!
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Not relevant to discussion, but heres a taste of the future
Future World XI(under 26 years old)
1)Joe Root
2)Nasir Jamshed(when he gets his act together)
3)Kane Williamson
4)Virat Kohli
5)Steve Smith
6)Nasir Hossain
7)Dinesh Chandimal
8)Ashton Agar
9)Mitchell Starc
10)Junaid Khan
11)Trent Boult
Reserves-
Steve Finn
Kemar Roach
Phillip Hughes
Matthew Wade
Shakib Al Hasan
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Not relevant to discussion, but heres a taste of the future
Future World XI(under 26 years old)
1)Joe Root 2)Nasir Jamshed(when he gets his act together) 3)Kane Williamson 4)Virat Kohli 5)Steve Smith 6)Nasir Hossain 7)Dinesh Chandimal 8)Ashton Agar 9)Mitchell Starc 10)Junaid Khan 11)Trent Boult
Reserves-
Steve Finn, Kemar Roach, Phillip Hughes, Matthew Wade, Shakib Al Hasan
Can't see Jamshed, Smith, Hossain, Hughes, Finn and a couple of others ever making a world side. I do however think Pattinson, Cummings, Rafiq and Buttler worthy of a mention.
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Cummins will be lost to injury surely? Or limited overs cricket at best.
Once Ajmal, YK and Misbah retire, how many Tests are the PCB going to push for? Pakistan look very, very weak in long form cricket.
And I'd never have Sachin in a world eleven. Unless the stats counted he wouldn't give two hoots.
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Cummins will be lost to injury surely? Or limited overs cricket at best.
I'm going to remain optimistic that teh lad will get over his long term injury worries and will eventually fulfill the potential he has shown thus far - after all, lots of bowlers have injury problems in their early 20s that eventually subside...
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True, but many don't and it would be a more viable career path to bowl four overs and set yourself up for life.
(I am being speculative)
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I don't think there are that many who have had early career, possibly growth related, injury problems and never recovered!
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Many recover, but regain their pace?
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Steve Smith as world class really????
Phil Hughes seriously ????
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I appreciate the feedback.This is just a squad of players off the top of my head. some of these guys are player's I want to be successful, so it's a little biased.
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Many recover, but regain their pace?
Anderson did, Flintoff improved his, Gillespie did...