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Title: Captaincy
Post by: charliemott on September 17, 2013, 09:29:20 PM
I've been lucky enough to play for every team sat and sun apart from the sat 1's this year. Mainly featuring in 3's&4's, i have batted well the past few weeks and have manage to hold on to a place in the 3's next year, however i have been offered captaincy of the 4's with admin help (getting 11 etc). I want to play the best standard i can but is this the only chance i could get to prove myself as a captain. I have very little mens captain experience as im only a 17yr old wicket keeping bat, what do you guys think?
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: Alvaro on September 17, 2013, 09:32:07 PM
Play 3s. There's time for losing your hair in the future.
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 17, 2013, 09:32:08 PM
At your age u should be striving to improve ur own game and enjoying yourself. Captaincy can come at a later date.

Focus on playing the highest standard possible first and foremost as your only young once.
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Post by: Bruce on September 17, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
I would say don't do it!
I found it very difficult at a young age to skipper.
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Post by: Liam-SCCC on September 17, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
Just finished my second season as captain, not something you need to do at a young age! I won't be doing it again in the near future!
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: charliemott on September 17, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
I thought this may be the response i would get as i agree! Anyone fancy playing devils advocate just out of intrest would like to hear the other side.
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: ProWannabe88 on September 17, 2013, 09:38:10 PM
Play to the best level you can and enjoy it fella.

Being a skipper can be arranged later on in life. I'm 25 this year and never even contemplated skipping a side. Will save that for when I've figured my own game out, if that day ever comes :) play hard, have fun and leave the stress and politics to old balding geezers
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: Buzz on September 17, 2013, 09:41:21 PM
it is an honour to be asked to captain a team at your age, but really it isn't your job, you should try to get into the second/third team not waste away in the George Doors.

Ask the club why there isn't a more senior player able to do the job. while you are at it, ask them why they don't see you as a third team player...
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 17, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
As great as it seems now don't do it mate, halfway through the season I was drinking more than was healthy  :(
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: ajmw89 on September 18, 2013, 08:41:42 AM
Charlie, you've got my number if you wanna chat about it mate.  Sandy told me as much over the weekend.
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: uknsaunders on September 18, 2013, 08:59:55 AM
As everybody else has said, you are 17 and probably have the best part of a decade before you've reached your peak. That also includes learning about conditions, tactics, reading wickets, reading batsman etc. All these things will help you to skipper in later years.

Being a skipper is 80% admin and 20% on the pitch. It's also easier the higher up the food chain you are ie. 1st skipper as opposed to 4th's skipper. At 17 you don't want to be chasing players on a friday evening when you should be enjoying yourself? Says more about the state of the club if you ask me.
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: mini998 on September 18, 2013, 09:14:04 AM
I assume 4th team skipper has the most problems compared to 1st , 2nd and 3rd team captains. For example in our club  1st , 2nd and 3rd teams automatically get all the available players and 4th team skipper has to go through all the hassle of ringing up players every week to see if he can raise a 11 for the week. Couple weeks ago we had to play with 9 because 3rd team took couple of players on Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: MD2812 on September 18, 2013, 09:51:17 AM
Is there an option to Vice-Captain a team? Develop you as a captain whilst still letting you play at highest ability?

Or is this also not a good option at a young age?
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: arsenal123 on September 18, 2013, 09:57:59 AM
Playing devils advocate.

I was a good twos keeper who batted 10 (averaged about 10).  I was offered to skipper the threes and took it at 20.  I batted myself at 3 every week without fail.  It teaches you a great deal of responsibility and you focus on making big runs as it's 'your' side.  I averaged about 50ish and skippered the twos the following year.

This year hasn't been a great year for the second team but I've averaged about 30ish with the bat and became a main player for the side.

It seems you're not being looked at as a main player in your side if you're jumping between 2s and 3s, perhaps skippering will make you into a senior player.  It helped me a lot to be looked at in a different light.
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: Mortimer on September 18, 2013, 06:53:06 PM
You're to young to captain; you can't buy the beers
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: The Palmist on September 18, 2013, 07:59:18 PM
Will look good on your CV and may help you develop leadership skills which you can use later on in life. Go for it mate, if you don't enjoy you can always quit. At least you won't be wondering what it would have been like.
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: horseman on September 18, 2013, 08:18:32 PM
At 17 you should enjoy your bat and your keeping. Plenty of time to skipper later on. Try play at the highest level you can whikst enjoying it.
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Post by: pacman75cricket on September 18, 2013, 08:21:28 PM
Just be careful wicketkeeping is quite a bit to do a young agelet alonee captaincy on top
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Post by: Gingerbusiness on September 18, 2013, 08:27:40 PM
You're to young to captain; you can't buy the beers

Cracking response! :D

I agree with many of the points. I used to captain the 1s at my club, but my performance suffered. Since giving up captaincy I've taken 48 and 63 wickets in two seasons and averaged over 30 with the bat.

It shouldn't be under estimated the pressure that captaining puts on someone. At 17, vice-captaincy is a good option and will teach you the necessary skills to become a future captain. Just like a builder or plumber, you need to learn your trade - hopefully someone very experienced will get it and you can learn from them
Title: Re: Captaincy
Post by: charliemott on September 19, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
Thanks for the responses guys, i think im going to try and play as high as i can for the time being and then see what path that leads me down! Fingers crossed for May 2014 now!