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Title: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: ItsJustCricket on September 18, 2013, 06:20:11 PM
It really has struck me of late.  Does anyone actually like concaving on a bat?

Maybe that, as a specialist shop, we only really attract the discerning cricketer - or that I just spend too much time on here - but I can't help but thinking that concaved bats might soon be a thing of the past because nobody seems to actually like them!

Yet, if this really is the case, why are the majority of bats that are made today still concaved?? Is it really all just a big edge thing??  ???
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: smilley792 on September 18, 2013, 06:23:51 PM
They shouldnt but


Big edges sell bats! And concaving is the only way to get big edges on a light bat. And remain with somekind of spine.


Thankfully I don't have this issue, using 3lb bats, little concaving is needed to create what I need.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: tuffers007 on September 18, 2013, 06:24:47 PM
ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant stand it. i cant see any positives to it other than cosmetic. maybe it helps with the balance enabling ppl to have bigger edges? but that alone has no benefits(in my opinion anyway).
whats wrong with a good old fashioned bat. what i have noticed is tha ppl tend to talk about bats they used to have rather than bats they own now.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: Alvaro on September 18, 2013, 06:27:15 PM
I have a fairly concaved Laver. I really like it. All this talk of a thin middle is poppycock - the responsiveness across the middle of this bat is great. Shots stay hit with it!
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: GarrettJ on September 18, 2013, 06:31:11 PM
I have an MH distinction and every shot came out of the middle
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: Jaffa on September 18, 2013, 08:07:19 PM
As mentioned 'to concave or not to concave' might have something to do with the crave for bigger edges. You pays your money.... methinks.

This craving for bigger edges and flatter faces, does it make the bat more likely to crack when edged? Surely a rounded edge deflects more. Sorry don't want to go off on a tangent.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: Gingerbusiness on September 18, 2013, 08:20:13 PM
I have a concaved RNS Larson Unik G1, 2lb9 with 42mm edges. Yes is it has an extremely light pickup and gives me more confidence to go over the top... But would I trade it for a Newbery Mjolnir... You bet your backside I would... and with interest!
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: rbblack on September 18, 2013, 08:29:58 PM
I really don't like the look of concaving on bats when looking down the spine and in theory also don't like it but most of the time unless super concaved you can't see it. So I am not that fussed.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: horseman on September 18, 2013, 08:31:19 PM
It really has struck me of late.  Does anyone actually like concaving on a bat?

Maybe that, as a specialist shop, we only really attract the discerning cricketer - or that I just spend too much time on here - but I can't help but thinking that concaved bats might soon be a thing of the past because nobody seems to actually like them!

Yet, if this really is the case, why are the majority of bats that are made today still concaved?? Is it really all just a big edge thing??  ???

I think bats could have edges of  25 mm tops , decent weight distribution. I think the serious cricketer buys on feel and sound. Very rare are they bought on 50mm edges . I hope they disappear. Bring the skill of finding the middle of the bat back into the game
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: beaver5 on September 18, 2013, 08:32:03 PM
I'm not a fan of too much concaving. I had a Bradbury which had a huge spine and it was very unforgiving if you hit it off centre. However I did score what I feel was my best ever knock with it, 90 off about 50 balls and the ball just flew off the bat almost every time. I think that I needed to be in good touch to get the most out of it while other shapes can be more forgiving.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: 100 not out on September 18, 2013, 08:39:19 PM
A bit of concaving is actually good as it helps pick up, aggressive concaving kills the bat.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: tim2000s on September 18, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
Go and read the comment relating to edge size and flat faces in the GM launch thread from Ed Lowy.

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Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: Vitas Cricket on September 18, 2013, 09:49:52 PM
Pressing is more important in my opinion.

If concaving had a dramatic effect on the way a bat performed, then the scoop would be the worst bat ever made.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: yvk3103 on September 18, 2013, 09:50:45 PM
Bats with concaving will never become extinct. People want light and big edge bats and with supply of willow becoming more and more tight, the percentage of the top most grade clefts (light, clean grains, performance etc.) will become less and less.

Either people compromise - use heavier bats or accept big bats with huge edges but with flaws in the face (wider grains, some blemishes etc).

Personally, not too bothered whether the bat has concaving or not. It the balance and pick-up is good and I can time/middle the ball most times, the bat is good for me.

Except for a few most professional players don't even bother about these things.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: LNB on September 18, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
Cosmetically I think concaving looks good, but for me all that matters is if the bat feels good in my hands. I don't care if the bat has 5 or 15 grains,clean or blemishes in the face, as long as it has a good middle and feels right in my hands.
Title: Re: Who actually likes concaving??
Post by: RaepTiem on September 19, 2013, 09:30:59 AM
i like decent concaving. it certainly improves pickup (for me). a lot of concaving improves the pickup further but you end up with a bat that feels pretty dead across the face when hitting strokes(once again, for me, maybe not for you). i love the beautiful ping of the middle on a full spine bat, but for me, it feels bottom heavy at times and i feel i need to take 1-2 ounces of deadweight off in order to find the pickup of the medium concaved bat. i certainly don't mind a smaller, full spine bat, but i just feel more confident wielding a bigger piece of willow.