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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Marc28 on October 06, 2013, 12:18:19 AM
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Just read after todays T20 game,
Sachin has passed 50,000 runs in all forms of the game, the guy is an absolute genius, if i make it to even a thousand runs in my playing days i will be the happiest man going but 50,000.
AMAZING
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It's like Romario scoring '1000' career goals after spending his latter years playing for the equivalent of Guildford U15s just to tally them up. Who cares?
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It's like Romario scoring '1000' career goals after spending his latter years playing for the equivalent of Guildford U15s just to tally them up. Who cares?
Sounds like your a bit bitter mate.
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It's like Romario scoring '1000' career goals after spending his latter years playing for the equivalent of Guildford U15s just to tally them up. Who cares?
Probably a lot more people than have your bitter attitude.
Well done sachin
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It's like Romario scoring '1000' career goals after spending his latter years playing for the equivalent of Guildford U15s just to tally them up. Who cares?
So on your logic the Indian national cricket team is the equivalent of the Guildford U15's... ???
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Sachin is an amazing cricketer - he has achieved things that really matter and is one of the best of all time. His performance in the last World Cup was amazing. I think then would have been a good time to stop and that would have been a greater legacy than 50,000 runs eked out (painfully too).
If that's bitter, which I'm not entirely convinced is a fair accusation, so what?
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Sachin has been a fantastic batsman, probably one of the best of all time. 50,000 runs is phenomenal. But over the last few years his record has dropped away and it could possibly be said part of his motivation to keep going is to make records. Or maybe this is the BCCI's motivation to keep picking him. Or maybe there is still no none better to be picked.
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Don't forget Sachin sells....whether he makes runs or not he sells. His presence alone does wonders for the team. Imagine the pressure he plays under every time he is out to bat. He is calling it in though in phases.
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Sachin was a great player, as was Romario. But I get Alvaro's point. There's only so many times you can bunt Bangladesh round the park on a flat one before it gets boring.
Also, didn't realise there were so many Englishmen with more than 50,000 runs until I had a look into the subject!
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I was fortunate enough to meet Tendulkar back in 2002 when he played at Bradfield College when coming back from injury.
The guy is a class act in all aspects. We all know his cricket ability but the guy is very intelligent and incredibly approachable.
50,000 runs is an incredible feat and to him I am sure it is an incredible achievement but I think the pressure put on him by the BCCI, plus the weight of an entire nation, is something that he will always struggle to walk away from.
If I am completely honest... Superstars in cricket these days are few and far between, especially to the level of a Tendulkar, Warne, Walsh, Lara, Richards, Border etc... If he wants a few more games to break records - fair play. It's not his job to drop himself.
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I guess the acid test is how his record compares to the other IndiAn top 6 batters over the last 12 months?
I've just got a feeling it might not be as bad as some people (probs get shot down now!), and there still worth his place?
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Great player, great career but for him to achieve this landmark in such a sham tournament as the CLT20 is a shame. Rahul dravid ending his career batting at eight in a t20 slogathon just isn't cricket if you ask me
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These are just stats and true. Take this 50,000 run mark out and his Cricketing CV is still very decorative. Mumbai Indians is a private franchise, if they want to pay Sachin whether he makes runs or not then it is their problem. He has already called time from 50 overs games.
I am not a huge fan of Sachin but have to respect his achievements, whether flat track or Bangladesh. It is not like his orchestrated his career by choosing to play on flat tracks and against Bangladesh.
There was a time when Sachin Tendulkar, Mark Waugh, Brian Lara, Nathan Astle, Amir Sohail, Saeed Anwar had very similar stats in terms of runs and centuries....but Sachin is the only one who kept going. Some would argue that Lara would have done better...but he didn't so we will never know.
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I have to agree with the latest comments. I don't think Sachin is the greatest player of recent times, but he is the most prolific. His achievements are undoubtedly phenomenal.
It does leave you feeling that he has gone on for a couple of years too long and I hope that the push for landmarks in the last couple of years is not down to him, but his sponsors and the BCCI. You can't help feeling if he were Bradman and he'd got that last innings duck, there would've been an announcement that "actually Sachin will keep playing (sub text - until he averages 100). He won't play any more tests until he is playing a test in Mumbai..."
I also agree its a real shame that greats of the game are bowing out in the IPL/CLT20 circus. These aren't included in first-class records, so why are they using it to ensure Sachin gets his 50k? Again, I hope it comes down to sponsors and not Sachin chasing the records. I did watch the game and was slightly surprised he raised his bat at the achievement in what amounts to little more than a rich man's wonga waving show masquerading as a top class cricket match.
There seem to be more and more people wanting him to retire, which is a blot on his legacy. Contrast that to Lara, where the vast majority wish he'd kept playing.
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I'm sure this is going to be misconstrued as me being "bitter" also, which it's not because only a fool would deny Sachin is a great, but this is just another manufactured achievement to try and place in him a Bradmanesque light. It's a bit like the 100 international hundreds; there's not much significance to either 'achievement'.
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I'd love to see these comments posted on cricinfo just to see the Indian backlash
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sachin isn't retiring so why the hype?
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I'd love to see these comments posted on cricinfo just to see the Indian backlash
It should be a regular pastime - just wind them up and watch them go!
sachin isn't retiring so why the hype?
You're absolutely right - he gets to play his 200th test in India, which is fine in itself, but not when you're disrupting entire tours and the ICC's tours programme. Although it is entirely possible that the BCCI will lose any interest they have in Test cricket once he does retire.
To coin a well-worked sporting phrase - no one is bigger than the game. He is wonderful player - 'the little master' title is absolutely deserved. I just feel that by either choosing to or being persuaded to hang around, the memories we have of him will be tarnished. Must be hard to walk away after 20+ years of adulation though...
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Contrast that to Lara, where the vast majority wish he'd kept playing.
People would be saying about Sachin had he retired/quit early. In contracts to Lara's career Sachin has managed to keep away from team politics to a certain extent.
And those comparing him to Bradman or Bradman to him, this just isn't right as both represent different eras. A bit like Rocky Balboa fighting young Mason Dixon :)
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SRT is a fabulous player,probably no one will tell him when to retire-in India I guess he is bigger than the game itself :)
If the game is about stats,which for many it is, he is probably the best player of his generation,but for those who watch cricket to be thrilled in the modern era-IVA was way before his time i'm not including him here......
check Lara's 153 not out against the aussies at Bridgetown and then just for that day in Barbados ask yourself could any other batsman of the modern game have played that apart from the genius that was Lara...
Lara was never going to break all records in the game-he got bored too easily because batting was just natural...
I like Sachin a lot,but splitting him,Kallis,Lara and Pointing is very difficult.
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People would be saying about Sachin had he retired/quit early. In contracts to Lara's career Sachin has managed to keep away from team politics to a certain extent.
And those comparing him to Bradman or Bradman to him, this just isn't right as both represent different eras. A bit like Rocky Balboa fighting young Mason Dixon :)
I take your point, but I'm not comparing him to Bradman - merely suggesting that either Tendulkar or his sponsors would've ensured he carried on until all were fully satisfied. I assume we've closed the book on that happening at 200 Tests and 16,000 Test runs? Either way, he's missed the opportunity to go out at the top of his game...
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I take your point, but I'm not comparing him to Bradman - merely suggesting that either Tendulkar or his sponsors would've ensured he carried on until all were fully satisfied. I assume we've closed the book on that happening at 200 Tests and 16,000 Test runs? Either way, he's missed the opportunity to go out at the top of his game...
But the fact is mate that he is still selling and bringing in money for the board and sponsors. So whether he makes runs or not...no one cares it is the money everyone is after.
Sachin still draws crowds to stadiums and viewers to telly.
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But the fact is mate that he is still selling and bringing in money for the board and sponsors. So whether he makes runs or not...no one cares it is the money everyone is after.
Sachin still draws crowds to stadiums and viewers to telly.
My point exactly - is he being driven by performing at a high level or is he/his advisers chasing the stats and the money? It seems nowadays people are turning up as it might be his last Test/ODI/IPL/game wearing blue/game on a Wednesday. They're not necessarily turning up expecting to see Sachin at his best, but hoping.
It would be interesting to know if continuing to play is down to him or the sponsors and/or BCCI. Either way, for me, it's taking away the memories of his all-time great innings. Dravid got it right (in terms of Tests), Laxman and Ponting? Season too long. Kallis? Still churning out big runs and Lara? Always leave them wanting more!