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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: Number 11 on October 08, 2013, 01:32:11 AM

Title: Maximising the Middle
Post by: Number 11 on October 08, 2013, 01:32:11 AM
Hi all, had a read through the SAF Blog on bats and a bit of theory and I thought let's try something a bit radical in bat shaping.
I scaled up and measured up the images showing the difference between traditional and concaved bats and did a bit of simple CAD with a couple of my own ideas.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq103/FreakyRoadster/Cricket%20Bats/BatDesign-1.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/FreakyRoadster/media/Cricket%20Bats/BatDesign-1.jpg.html)

I kept the overall depth the same and the width of the "middle"  is based on 40mm, edge thickness will vary the results.
My main concept was expanding the use of concaving to maximise the width of the middle without gaining too much weight.

What do you guys think and do any bat makers think thetriple and quinto concaved shapes have any merit?

Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: Krs on October 08, 2013, 02:47:09 AM
I won't be able to give any feedback regarding the shapes as I lack the knowledge in this subject matter, however I really like your ideas and look forward to replies!
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: smokem on October 08, 2013, 02:52:59 AM
The "triple" is called a Slazenger V1200.  ;) Or even the original GN scoop (with concaving added).

The "quint" is interesting. But I think it would be a lot of work for not a lot of gain compared to the "triple".
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: tim2000s on October 08, 2013, 05:40:19 AM
Essentially the quint and triple are the same in terms of mass distribution. It's just a case of how they are made.

As smokem says, the triple is already long in existence!

You've also missed the twin scoop of the dynadrive...

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Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: GarrettJ on October 08, 2013, 07:20:25 AM
what about the overall volume of wood, the 2nd one will weigh about 4lbs
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: Number 11 on October 08, 2013, 08:40:08 AM
Hi guys, thanks for the replies.
I have looked at the V1200, found images after I had that idea and it seems to me to be more of a long narrow scoop as opposed to concaving in the more traditional sense.
The "quint" gains 17mm in extra middle width but probably at the cost of a little extra weight. A lot also depends on the edge thickness.
The second image is based on the traditional shape but probably thicker than most actually were, probably could push the weight to a 4lb monster with a good dense cleft  ;)
I suppose the first image could be equated to the twin and four scoops and the third to the scoop in all their varying versions.

If I hadn't recently bought a bat (before I found this great forum >:() then I might have commissioned a quinto, just to be a bit different  ;)
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: uknsaunders on October 08, 2013, 09:00:59 AM
Length of middle is important to. Plenty of talk about extended middles and having the ability to time the ball up and down the blade, not just off centre towards the edges.
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: TangoWhiskey on October 08, 2013, 09:18:58 AM
Can't help but think that the quintuple will probably be one ugly bat, but if it works which it does in theory then who cares what it looks like right?
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: Nickauger on October 08, 2013, 09:58:58 AM
Can't help but think that the quintuple will probably be one ugly bat, but if it works which it does in theory then who cares what it looks like  right?

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Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: Number 11 on October 08, 2013, 02:47:15 PM
Just about everybody on this forum!

You're probably right :D
I'm tempted to have one made just to see the reality of it but the Mrs would probably kill me. :-[
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: RossViper on October 10, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
The shape doesn't make much of a difference to the middle,  only the balance
Title: Re: Maximising the Middle
Post by: Number 11 on October 10, 2013, 11:04:19 PM
Well the middle will be a little wider but the blade as a whole would be heavier, probably a candidate for a light weight cleft  ;)

So so tempted :-[