Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Cricket Manufacturers / Brands => Kippax Cricket => Topic started by: jwebber86 on October 17, 2013, 09:34:09 PM
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just came across the fact that the public can invest in their own willow tree and get bats from it in the future sounds quite like an awesome idea just going to take a while
http://www.chriskippax.350.com/kippax_willow/Own_your_own_Willow_Tree.htm (http://www.chriskippax.350.com/kippax_willow/Own_your_own_Willow_Tree.htm)
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10 people from our club have done it. 14 years left to go!
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Interesting..how is the insurance on this thing...say in case of a fire etc?
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There's a topic on this in the forum somewhere. Details about how many clefts you get, etc. I'd advise use of the search function.
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Interesting..how is the insurance on this thing...say in case of a fire etc?
I would imagine they have an insurance policy to protect themselves against this.
I have bought/invested in some of this "own your own willow" for by boy, who will be 16 when the trees are ready. It will be a better ROI than putting money in a bank. The maximum you can buy is 3 trees per year.
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300 quid a year, not a bad return for them or the investor really. I wonder how they promise 'top of the range' bats though? Surely that's going to be luck?
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Having read horror stories about single bat purchases going wrong at kippax. A long term investment such as this would seriously worry me.
Buy gold!
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Having read horror stories about single bat purchases going wrong at kippax. A long term investment such as this would seriously worry me.
Buy gold!
I'd personally not do it, but if someone is thinking long term it's a small enough outlay to mean you don't lose much
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Guys at our club just put in £10 each so we each get 1 bat in 15 years time.
Even if it doesn't happen its a story to tell at least and the certificate you get looks well in our pavillion!
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300 quid a year, not a bad return for them or the investor really. I wonder how they promise 'top of the range' bats though? Surely that's going to be luck?
With the £100 invested, I would imagine they could plant say 5 saplings minimum, giving them approx 200+ clefts in 15 years time. You get to go and watch the bats being made so I would hope you would have a choice of clefts.
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Yeah to be fair I very much doubt you get a dedicated tree that is solely yours. I would presume you are just allocated 1 tree in their 'forrest' and when the 15 years is up you get to pick a cleft.
I would also add that they do however give you the ownership of a tree if the company ever went under and they say they get around 30 clefts from each tree.
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Went 50/50 on a tree back in July when my best friend and I celebrated our 50th birthdays. Only another 14 years and 10 months to go.
Mind you what I will be doing with 5 top of the range bats when I'm 65 is another thing. Although I'm sure that my son who will be 36 won't object to pinching a couple out of my bag and there will always be a son in law, grand kids etc.
The certificate is a good talking point too. :)
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I'm seriously tempted to be honest. It will be a nice surprise in 15 years when I have long forgotten that I bought it!
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This is the thread from 2008: http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=1021.msg11090#msg11090 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=1021.msg11090#msg11090)
You get 10 clefts from a tree, supposedly grade 1.
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Guys at our club just put in £10 each so we each get 1 bat in 15 years time.
Even if it doesn't happen its a story to tell at least and the certificate you get looks well in our pavillion!
I like this idea. I'm now thinking if it'd be worth a club investment.. Club could then use the bats it gets as prizes or sell them .. Hhuuummm
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You may be unlucky and get no decent clefts :(
Is each log generally split into 8 clefts (or maybe 6 oversize ones)?
Number of logs depends on height of main trunk up to the first branch, so 3 possibly 4 logs.
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which one is 'the captain's log' ? :D
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Is there the option to put this into a will, I might not be alive to receive my bats!
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You guys out there do get to lead a very interesting life, investing in a tree and all that :D
No such luck for us guys here in india :D
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zzzzzz but here are the figures, I'm not sure if I have done this before though.
Buy one get the second half price so £450 for two (*5 = 10 bats = £2250)
£2,250 today but I reckon a bit of haggling and it would be £2,000 for 10 bats today.
With inflation (2.5%) the same bats would cost
£2,260 in 5 yrs
£2,560 in 10 yrs
£2,890 in 15 yrs
Money banked
£1,000 = £1,130 in 5yrs
£500 = £640 in 10yrs
£100 = £145 in 15yrs
Money Invested
£1,000 = £1,400 in 5yrs
£500 = £983 in 10yrs
£100 = £276 in 15yrs
In Summary (this is not advice, just numbers)
£1,000 invested for five years returns 126% growth ((2260-1000)/1000)*100 or 113% return above the money in the bank
£500 invested for ten years returns 412% growth ((2560 - 500)/500)*100 or 384% above the bank
£100 invested for fifteen years returns 2790% growth ((2890 - 100)/100)*100 or 2745% above the bank
As with all investments it carries risk, will they still be going, will the bats be rubbish, will you still be playing ????? But it does look fun.
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zzzzzz but here are the figures, I'm not sure if I have done this before though.
Buy one get the second half price so £450 for two (*5 = 10 bats = £2250)
£2,250 today but I reckon a bit of haggling and it would be £2,000 for 10 bats today.
With inflation (2.5%) the same bats would cost
£2,260 in 5 yrs
£2,560 in 10 yrs
£2,890 in 15 yrs
Money banked
£1,000 = £1,130 in 5yrs
£500 = £640 in 10yrs
£100 = £145 in 15yrs
Money Invested
£1,000 = £1,400 in 5yrs
£500 = £983 in 10yrs
£100 = £276 in 15yrs
In Summary (this is not advice, just numbers)
£1,000 invested for five years returns 126% growth ((2260-1000)/1000)*100 or 113% return above the money in the bank
£500 invested for ten years returns 412% growth ((2560 - 500)/500)*100 or 384% above the bank
£100 invested for fifteen years returns 2790% growth ((2890 - 100)/100)*100 or 2745% above the bank
As with all investments it carries risk, will they still be going, will the bats be rubbish, will you still be playing ????? But it does look fun.
A good analysis.
What assets class would one put this 'investment' into? and could you actually class this as an investment, or a 'future with physical delivery', or a 'future purchase'?
One of my team mates owns a tree and we did discuss proposing the club buys one or two.
I like the idea. It's a lot of fun, but can you compare is as an asset class alongside cash? :D
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What happens if a hurricane or disease wipes out the farm?
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how much land do i need to actually grow my own willow?
would be happy with 1 or 2 trees every year after the initial ten.
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zzzzzz but here are the figures, I'm not sure if I have done this before though.
Buy one get the second half price so £450 for two (*5 = 10 bats = £2250)
£2,250 today but I reckon a bit of haggling and it would be £2,000 for 10 bats today.
With inflation (2.5%) the same bats would cost
£2,260 in 5 yrs
£2,560 in 10 yrs
£2,890 in 15 yrs
Money banked
£1,000 = £1,130 in 5yrs
£500 = £640 in 10yrs
£100 = £145 in 15yrs
Money Invested
£1,000 = £1,400 in 5yrs
£500 = £983 in 10yrs
£100 = £276 in 15yrs
In Summary (this is not advice, just numbers)
£1,000 invested for five years returns 126% growth ((2260-1000)/1000)*100 or 113% return above the money in the bank
£500 invested for ten years returns 412% growth ((2560 - 500)/500)*100 or 384% above the bank
£100 invested for fifteen years returns 2790% growth ((2890 - 100)/100)*100 or 2745% above the bank
As with all investments it carries risk, will they still be going, will the bats be rubbish, will you still be playing ????? But it does look fun.
Impresssive figures but it's not about the money it's about the fun, the risk taking, living the dream etc.
You hand over £100 and in 15 years time you might have 10 quality bats, who knows. Just spend the next few years wondering what your going to do with them.
I've got 5 coming my way in 2028, shared a tree with my best friend - one for me when i'm 65, one for my boy who will be 37, perhaps a junior version for one of his kids, leaves 2, maybe 1 for my daughter's fella and one for my old man who will be 91.
Just do it.
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Oh I think I'll be doing it, just waiting to see how my Wavex plays once the season starts.