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General Cricket => World Cricket => Topic started by: smokem on November 21, 2013, 05:41:04 PM
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Watching the first day of the Ashes reminded me of one of the things that really annoys me about modern test cricket - the taking of comfort breaks, particularly by bowlers upon completing a spell. Am I the only one that thinks "it's just not cricket"? The ICC outlawed the use of runners not long ago. Should they clamp down on comfort breaks? If so what can be done? Vote and discuss.
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Get them all to wear nappies?
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Well in our form of cricket you can sneak off to relieve yourself behind the sight screen between overs, not quite so easy to do in front of 20,000 people...
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It's the same with Rowling down, drinks etc. Test cricket is supposed to be a true test , having breaks doesn't really do that. It does make me laugh at the local level when batsmen start calling for a drink tbh! You just don't NEED one fella, we are only out there for 50 overs max, man up
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It's the same with Rowling down, drinks etc. Test cricket is supposed to be a true test , having breaks doesn't really do that. It does make me laugh at the local level when batsmen start calling for a drink tbh! You just don't NEED one fella, we are only out there for 50 overs max, man up
There's a drinks break halfway through the innings anyway, so they'll only be going 25 overs without a drink. Saw a lad all for a drink in a T20 once, that was taking the mickey!
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There's a drinks break halfway through the innings anyway, so they'll only be going 25 overs without a drink. Saw a lad all for a drink in a T20 once, that was taking the mickey!
However, it depends on the day, how unfit you are and how fast the other runner is. I can bat 40 overs without drinks most of the season, but if it is hot, or I am batting with a person who runs a lot, sometime I need it.
I have called for drinks before on a blazing hot night game where we have run almost every ball, mostly 2s and 3s.
I think if we are being picky about things,what about those who have to tie their shoelaces twice an over or fiddling with footwear, just as bad.
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There's a drinks break halfway through the innings anyway, so they'll only be going 25 overs without a drink. Saw a lad all for a drink in a T20 once, that was taking the mickey!
Haha, deepends on the situation but hydrating is pretty important.
One guy at our club needed a drink after 8 balls, it was 8 twos, all tight, and he is a tad overweight and it was bloody hot.
Dude nearly collapsed.
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Haha, deepends on the situation but hydrating is pretty important.
One guy at our club needed a drink after 8 balls, it was 8 twos, all tight, and he is a tad overweight and it was bloody hot.
Dude nearly collapsed.
That sounds like me????
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Depends on if it's a poo or not? If you really need a poo bad, you shouldn't be holding the bomb-bay doors shut - you simply have to let go.
Would feel a bit weird in a test match, going off for a poo and sitting there, still hearing the crowd, waiting for you.
Perhaps they should have a little tent, just off the boundary, where you could nip in, drop a load and race back on again (with a lemon and mango bacterial handwash of course!)
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That's be confusing if you put it between the beer tent and the pimms tent
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I think the poms bowlers do it more than any other team and I think it's to get more mints, sandpaper, Vaseline in their pocket to tamper with the ball ;) ;) :D :D
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That's right Number 2, how else would we keep our breath fresh, our nails buffed and our lips moist?
I suppose your rugged chaps pop off for 54 quick cans of lager and a fried wallaby scrotum (or what whatever it is you chaps eat)? :D :o :D :o :D
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I'm not opening Fattus I'm in at Number4 and please stop you are making me hungry and have just eaten breakfast ;) :D
And we go off for a couple of "cold" cans of beer :D
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When I play, I refuse to allow batsmen a drink outside of scheduled drinks breaks when we're fielding. If I can't drink, you can't!
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I have often played against a team of Muslims during Ramadan and they fast all day. This includes no drinks break and no tea at half time. Their discipline is unbelievable.
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The test match play schedule has stayed the same for years and players are fitter then ever. These comfort breaks are pushing the boundaries of the "spirit of the game", in order to maximise the performance of certain bowlers. The idea behind a sub (like a runner) is to substitute an injured player.
So I say if you can't return to the field within an over, then stay off for 2 hours. Then as per current rules, you have to be back on the field for the number of overs you missed before you can bowl again. Fair enough?
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I have often played against a team of Muslims during Ramadan and they fast all day. This includes no drinks break and no tea at half time. Their discipline is unbelievable.
I have a couple of young lads (14/15) that play for me that fast during Ramadan. Dunno how they manage it tbh!
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The test match play schedule has stayed the same for years and players are fitter then ever. These comfort breaks are pushing the boundaries of the "spirit of the game", in order to maximise the performance of certain bowlers. The idea behind a sub (like a runner) is to substitute an injured player.
So I say if you can't return to the field within an over, then stay off for 2 hours. Then as per current rules, you have to be back on the field for the number of overs you missed before you can bowl again. Fair enough?
Pitchside portaloos!
Personally, i say if you want a comfort break, fine. But no sub fielder. Only time you should be allowed a sub fielder is if you are genuinely injured
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When I play, I refuse to allow batsmen a drink outside of scheduled drinks breaks when we're fielding. If I can't drink, you can't!
No drinks on the boundary for bowlers then either?!
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No drinks on the boundary for bowlers then either?!
If they want them, they can leave them off the edge but go off the field to drink
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If they want them, they can leave them off the edge but go off the field to drink
So at the end of the over, and they field at fine leg and drink. Do they leave the field and not return until the end of the over?
I'd suggest you do not get the option to stop batsmen having drinks, it is a personal health and safety issue. It's like saying that I am batting, cracking a close fielder in the head and saying that he can't have an ambulance.
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Leave the field for an over. Same as if you wanted a wee.
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With the advances in sport science and diet - player's hydration, etc - they are taking on more fluids than ever. Given the fairly recent cases in the US of gridiron players dying of dehydration at pre season 'boot camps' as it was deemed 'water is for the weak,' (the only part of the movie 'Remember the Titans' I fundamentally dislike, but I digress), this is no bad thing.
Sadly evolution is such that elite athletes haven't evolved into camels (plus the hump would have the 'he's chucking the ball brigade' up in arms), so I feel they have to go for a break. We all know its not great running for the ball when you need to (no swearing please) like a racehorse...
However I do believe the elite game should mimic our games and, as some have mentioned, you don't get a sub. Admittedly that's an issue if it's your wk, but them's are the breaks. IN fact, you rarely see a keeper go off, which suggests they dehydrate for the team - those guys and gals are hardcore!
You can't deny players the need to take a comfort break - and as with any rule, the only certainty is that elite teams and players will find a way to abuse it...
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, it is a personal health and safety issue.
Oh come on, having served in the desert and fought in it too (which isn't easy!) you really don't need all this hydration !! A drink every 20 overs or whatever it is, is perfectly fine. It's supposed to bloody test your body/fitness so again... Your supposed to get dehydrated to a degree etc.
AT&T he amateur level you also really don't need more than the one drinks break, I do find it pathetic when someone is constantly asking for a drink when batting.
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Oh come on, having served in the desert and fought in it too (which isn't easy!) you really don't need all this hydration !! A drink every 20 overs or whatever it is, is perfectly fine. It's supposed to bloody test your body/fitness so again... Your supposed to get dehydrated to a degree etc.
AT&T he amateur level you also really don't need more than the one drinks break, I do find it pathetic when someone is constantly asking for a drink when batting.
Totally agree, I reckon they are erring on the side of caution to ensuring there aren't any avoidable issues.
Only once have I asked for a drink, at the height of the summer 2012 when batting for 50-odd. Admittedly I've never served in the Forces, or been in a desert, but have friends who have (as well as one who ran the marathon des sables) and the experiences they talk about ensure you and they have my utmost respect for the conditions you've experienced. I have worked in the USA over summers out in the sun all day coaching, and feel I have more of a tolerance to the heat than most, but never felt as I did in this case (headache, blurred vision) - I guess it's not just the amount of fluid you take on, but other mitigating factors.
All of that said, unless someone's been batting for hours on end and its ridiculously hot, there's no need to take a drink, especially as you get as much as you want at 20 overs.
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Leave the field for an over. Same as if you wanted a wee.
Good idea - and no substitute fielders either (which I think is actually against the laws of the game? Wisden geeks/umpires fact or foolishness?)
At the end of the day nobody wants to see somebody at cow corner getting out their short leg and doing a "paula radcliffe".......still it'd give the Barmy Army something new to sing about......
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Oh come on, having served in the desert and fought in it too (which isn't easy!) you really don't need all this hydration !! A drink every 20 overs or whatever it is, is perfectly fine. It's supposed to bloody test your body/fitness so again... Your supposed to get dehydrated to a degree etc.
AT&T he amateur level you also really don't need more than the one drinks break, I do find it pathetic when someone is constantly asking for a drink when batting.
You may have served in the desert, but you will have had a lot of conditioning and training.
There are a lot of players who do not have that same dedication to training, fitness and diet. Just because one person can do it, does not mean that everyone else can.
Perhaps we should get rid of all drink breaks, tea between innings and not let anyone have a break. Which will be fine until it causes someone to collapse.
It takes a minute, if that to have a drink. It takes longer when the captain changes the field 2-3 times an over.
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We're talking about test cricketers - in particular super fit bowlers - taking breaks after a spell to optimise their performance for the next spell. If they do get a little dehydrated after a spell, go to the boundary and have a drink between balls there. No need to go off the field and take a shower, chat with the coach and analyst and a rub down from the physio... ;)