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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: wcc on November 27, 2013, 10:07:13 PM

Title: Bat Refurb
Post by: wcc on November 27, 2013, 10:07:13 PM
Just dug out an old Puma a team mate gave me and was thinking about refurbing it would just like some opinion wether or not it can be saved?

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Nice clean grains and still has excellent ping.

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Better close up.

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Slight surface cracking on the outside edge to be expected.

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This is the main problem there seems to be a crack running down both sides of the splice, opinions?
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 27, 2013, 10:16:41 PM
the cracks down the side of the splice make me think it's probably a lost cause (someone better qualified than me might say different)
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: wcc on November 27, 2013, 10:19:01 PM
the cracks down the side of the splice make me think it's probably a lost cause (someone better qualified than me might say different)

Yeah im guessing it would be but just thought i would post, not bad to be given it was free.
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 27, 2013, 10:22:09 PM
If it was me I'd be tempted to dowel through the shoulder and then re-furb it totally.
Given that it's free anything you get from it is a bonus  :)
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: RossViper on November 27, 2013, 10:35:36 PM
what does it feel like now - the handle i mean, should be fixable - but a bit hit and miss with things like that.
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: wcc on November 27, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
what does it feel like now - the handle i mean, should be fixable - but a bit hit and miss with things like that.

Does have abit of give in the handle, what would be the best way of fixing it? Might aswell give it a shot.
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on November 27, 2013, 10:58:11 PM
Hi matt you can  open her up and put a very stong glue in there I had a bat like that years ago glued it up and it was fine
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: wcc on November 27, 2013, 11:02:38 PM
Hi matt you can  open her up and put a very stong glue in there I had a bat like that years ago glued it up and it was fine

So just try and get as much glue in the cracks as possible? What type of glue we talking?  :-[
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on November 27, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
strong as possible wood glue you can get or grilloa glue best one i found is the stuff you damp the wood then glue the clamp
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: wcc on November 27, 2013, 11:14:51 PM
strong as possible wood glue you can get or grilloa glue best one i found is the stuff you damp the wood then glue the clamp

Ok mate think i will give that a go over the weekend cheers.
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: Number 11 on November 28, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
I'd be tempted to drill and dowel it where the tape line is, going into the splice at a downward angle.
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: Ryan on November 28, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
Best thing to do is remove the hande, glue the crack and bang a new handle in.  You can get in to both sides of the crack so will be stronger.  But if you don't want to go to that trouble it should be fine if you open it up and glue. 
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: SkipperJ on December 02, 2013, 10:23:22 PM
How do you open up a hairline crack like that? Best bet IMHO would be to soak in some superglue and bind the shoulder with twine.
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 02, 2013, 10:54:51 PM
How do you open up a hairline crack like that? Best bet IMHO would be to soak in some superglue and bind the shoulder with twine.
No need to open a crack like that up, water down some PVA so it's slightly runnier than usual, place the bat so that the crack is facing up and put the glue on. Gravity will do its thing to get some glue in there.

As far as super glue, doesn't it dry too quickly to be effective?? (And I imagine it's make a right mess of the wood?)
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: yogi206 on December 03, 2013, 11:31:26 AM
I wouldn't use superglue that seems a bit extreme, I always used pva with the smallest amount of water, best way to open up a small crack it to get a wood wedge and sharpen it right up and tap into the crack. or you could dowel through one side to the other ( have seen some companies do this for toe support go through the splice and out the other side glue the dowel rod and tap it through cut off and sand it to blend in, will have to be a really nice fit to benefit though... but not too snug ;-)
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: RossViper on December 03, 2013, 04:33:39 PM
Do not dowel this, IMHO that is the wrong advice, it will not help this crack.

Like Ryan says, the best thing to do is to take out the handle, glue the crack and refit handle, but thats a lot of work, and you might get just a good as a result from simply gluing up the crack. Make sure it is well clamped, that's a key factor in getting a good strong fix.
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: wcc on December 03, 2013, 04:58:29 PM
Do not dowel this, IMHO that is the wrong advice, it will not help this crack.

Like Ryan says, the best thing to do is to take out the handle, glue the crack and refit handle, but thats a lot of work, and you might get just a good as a result from simply gluing up the crack. Make sure it is well clamped, that's a key factor in getting a good strong fix.
im just going to glue and clamp, only thing is the cracks wont really open up too much when i flex the handle should i just try and work as much into the cracks as possible?
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: yogi206 on December 04, 2013, 06:51:12 AM
it could be hairline cracks because the handle is too "strong" for the splice. you could use a wood file and thin the handle down a bit after you have attempted to get some glue in the shoulders. you would have to rebind the handle too though but you give the handle a bit more flex and take some stress away from the shoulders??
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: SkipperJ on December 04, 2013, 06:36:36 PM
wcc, let us know if you are able to fix this with PVA glue.

i have had little success getting watered down pva into such hairline cracks. i use superglue as it is watery enough to penetrate, but it doesn't flex and eventually cracks again.

dean@vulcan, how would you get wood or gorilla glue in there?
Title: Re: Bat Refurb
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on December 04, 2013, 08:05:46 PM
wcc, let us know if you are able to fix this with PVA glue.

i have had little success getting watered down pva into such hairline cracks. i use superglue as it is watery enough to penetrate, but it doesn't flex and eventually cracks again.

dean@vulcan, how would you get wood or gorilla glue in there?
i would open it up damp wood with a airfix type brush then get the glue in there and then clamp it up