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Title: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on November 29, 2013, 11:27:40 AM
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Screaming Cat Professional
Kudos SPS with TAS
Newbery TT SPS
Amplus Mk1
SS Gladiator
Argon Original LE
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: smokem on November 29, 2013, 11:29:54 AM
Nice selection there mate. Which do you like the most? And why did you TAS your Kudos?
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Pendles10 on November 29, 2013, 11:37:15 AM
Great bats there! How does the Argon play, doesn't look like a original le
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on November 29, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
The Kudos belongs to Mark (wickets-then-runs). He can probably answer that question.

I honestly couldn't pick between them although I didn't hit with the Kudos. I will try it next time. They all smashed the ball.
The SS, GM and TT are mine. It was my first hit with the GM and TT. They are impressive. The Argon came from Lorimers. Not the best looking grains (just like every SPS I own) but that doesn't worry me. I would rather have an ugly bat that plays well than a pretty bat that feels ordinary (there have been a few).
The Screaming Cat was good. I was pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Buzz on November 29, 2013, 11:52:04 AM
If it was me or Canners in the nets with that selection, we would still be there... (until the evening I suspect!!)

 
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on November 29, 2013, 12:50:23 PM
yeah but you can only bowl for so long.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: FattusCattus on November 29, 2013, 12:50:56 PM
TT is interesting - I've had a couple of people say theirs were planks, and the ones I've picked up never seemed 'chunky' enough - however I've always fancied one.

What is the weight of the TT?
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Sam on November 29, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
TT is interesting - I've had a couple of people say theirs were planks, and the ones I've picked up never seemed 'chunky' enough - however I've always fancied one.

What is the weight of the TT?

I've personally got a 2lb 10 TT 5 star that goes quite well and has a suprisingly decent pickup for the design.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on November 29, 2013, 01:08:08 PM
It's 2.8. If you want a bat that performs make sure it's an SPS.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: mattw on November 29, 2013, 01:09:18 PM
TT is interesting - I've had a couple of people say theirs were planks, and the ones I've picked up never seemed 'chunky' enough - however I've always fancied one.

What is the weight of the TT?

Agreed, there's the odd one that seems decent - however the ones that I have seen have been very poor in terms of size and they've never responded well. For me this should be Newberys flagship bat as it brings a lot of 'wow factor' to their brand(until the kudos was released) and for me, they haven't picked the right sort of willow to use as it seems they have always used the heavier clefts which is why they always seem small for the weight.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on November 29, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
Agreed, there's the odd one that seems decent - however the ones that I have seen have been very poor in terms of size and they've never responded well. For me this should be Newberys flagship bat as it brings a lot of 'wow factor' to their brand(until the kudos was released) and for me, they haven't picked the right sort of willow to use as it seems they have always used the heavier clefts which is why they always seem small for the weight.
Have you owned a lot of Newbery's? Does a bat need 40mm edges and a 70mm spine to perform?
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: mattw on November 29, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Have you owned a lot of Newbery's? Does a bat need 40mm edges and a 70mm spine to perform?

No, I have not owned one Newbery as they have never appealed to me, I have had bats made by the same people as them. The TT was probably the bat that I liked the most out of the Newbery range however from my personal opinion they could have been made using a better choice of willow.

Bigger brands will have a selection of willow, of which some is used for the top end range and some for the bottom end range etc - not only grades, but weights of the blades and instead of using some of the normal weight willow for the TT's, it seems they have used the heavier willow, as one would assume that with the TT shape(it a T20 style bat), it would look bigger than other bats in the Newbery range that are SH as there is less height on the blade - the many TT's I have seen have looked very underwhelming.

No, I am not one of those advocates - however having been in the cricket business myself, there are things they could have done better with this bat to make it more appealing. Pretty much every TT that I have picked up in stores around the country, I have just as quickly dismissed it due to the poor willow that has been used - let alone some of them feeling very poor on the pick up, however there is the odd gem as there are with every model/grade/bat out there of which I hope yours is.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: MD2812 on November 29, 2013, 01:34:22 PM
It's 2.8. If you want a bat that performs make sure it's an SPS.

Really? The most responsive bat i've ever played with is my Players GT, and the Uzi i've picked up recently feels very nice!

I thought the uzi looked small as it doesn't have much spine, but it's bigger than my GT. It's just that the willow goes right across the blade rather than only in the centre.

I know someone who has had 2 TTs, both have been gun shows!
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on November 29, 2013, 02:07:34 PM
If you haven't owned a an SPS you are missing out. I read a quote on this forum along the lines of "the Newbery SPS range is the benchmark for performance". It was written by a guy who owns well in excess of a hundred bats so I figure he must have a clue.
I own 3 Newbery SPS bats and a Players. Of the 60 odd bats I currently own they are the best. There are other bats in my collection that perform as well as they do but they are at the top of the tree.
My TT has 35mm edges. This makes it the biggest of the Newbery bats that I own. I can't think of a Newbery model that is much larger than this. Thruxton, GT, Uzi - none of them are big bats.
I have a Thruxton SPS with 30mm edges and a spine that must only be 35mm if that. It looks like a toothpick and weighs 2lb 9oz. The only bat that has hit the ball harder is my MMi Super Premium and the difference is marginal.
I own a Joker which weighs 2.10.5 and only(!) has 35mm edges. A T20 bat with tiny edges like that. What were they thinking??
It still performs just as you would expect a Joker to perform.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: mattw on November 29, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
It's all personal preference.

From all of the TTs that I have seen, they have hugely underwhelmed me.

As you have said, you're basing the performance to a Joker - which is £80 cheaper. I know which I would prefer.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: FattusCattus on November 29, 2013, 08:12:19 PM
Sadly I think with the advent of the Kudos, the TT will disappear. I shall, I think begin a search for a decent second hand one, as I think a used, knocked in one will become a rarity.

I'll take on board the comments on SPS grade, and I'll see what's out there.

I'm afraid I too, am one of those guys who thinks Tim K and Andrew K press the best bats out there.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on November 29, 2013, 11:17:18 PM
It's all personal preference.

From all of the TTs that I have seen, they have hugely underwhelmed me.

As you have said, you're basing the performance to a Joker - which is £80 cheaper. I know which I would prefer.

There is nothing about a Newbery bat that makes me want to buy it. I don't think the stickers look great. The grains seldom look good. And the designs are not attention grabbing.
I paid ?225 for my Joker and it was worth every cent. Landed in Australia for around $400AU
My Thruxton SPS was ?142 from Lorimers. Landed in Aus for $290AU.
The TT SPS cost me $270AU incl postage. It came from IJC. I bought it from the same guy who sold me a Salix Pod Players a while ago for $300AU.
I used to think ?300 odd was far too much to pay for a bat. And I would never have bought a Newbery if I hadn't gotten carried away with that first ebay auction. But having now used them I can tell you that when it is time to replace my Thruxton SPS with another I will happily pay RRP if necessary.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on November 30, 2013, 12:46:29 AM
There is nothing about a Newbery bat that makes me want to buy it. I don't think the stickers look great. The grains seldom look good. And the designs are not attention grabbing.
I paid ?225 for my Joker and it was worth every cent. Landed in Australia for around $400AU
My Thruxton SPS was ?142 from Lorimers. Landed in Aus for $290AU.
The TT SPS cost me $270AU incl postage. It came from IJC. I bought it from the same guy who sold me a Salix Pod Players a while ago for $300AU.
I used to think ?300 odd was far too much to pay for a bat. And I would never have bought a Newbery if I hadn't gotten carried away with that first ebay auction. But having now used them I can tell you that when it is time to replace my Thruxton SPS with another I will happily pay RRP if necessary.
you will not only pay RRP but pay it happily!!?? Wow!  :D
The Screaming Cat, the Amplus and the Kudos are mine and all three are brilliant! The Kudos is the first Newbery I have owned and I must say, the pick up is fantastic! I had the TAS inserts fitted as I use a bat at 2.10 and it came in too light at 2.8 and the inserts add a couple of ounces, it worked out perfect. I feel the TAS inserts do add to the ping of the bat, especially off-centre hits. The Scat is my favorite and was made a couple of weeks ago when Julian gave me first pick of his new batch of clefts. He made it to my specs by taking more out near the handle (similar to my Amplus) which although makes it pick up not quite as well, adds punch to my shots as it seems a bit more of a pendulum if that makes sense?
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on November 30, 2013, 12:50:31 AM
Both the TT and the GM, despite not winning any beauty contests, absolutely fly! I'm with Shane on this when he says that he would have something that performs rather than a sexy plank. My Scat has blemishes all over it but launches rockets.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: tushar sehgal on November 30, 2013, 02:46:37 AM
Having used a few Newbery bats one thing I would say is they are never really "big" bats but they do seems to all play well, Only one that I seem to recall as being a decent size was my B52 bomber but it was also fairly heavy and my last Newbery. Highly unlikely that you will find a SPS that does not play well, I did end up getting a TT short while back that is a 5 star, looks okish but responds extremely well off the mallet.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on December 01, 2013, 11:08:34 PM
""you will not only pay RRP but pay it happily!!?? Wow!  :D""
Ha. But we both know it will never come to that. Im thinking i really liked the feel of that Screaming Cat. Isn't it 2 weeks old now? Time to move it on me thinks.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on December 02, 2013, 03:08:24 AM
My CK22 arrived this morning and I must say this is better than any of my expectations! "Pings like a pingy thing from pingsville", I believe is the appropriate phrase used...  :D
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on December 02, 2013, 06:03:59 AM
Hang on I thought that was staying in the box until xmas?
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on December 02, 2013, 08:40:33 AM
I had to use the box it came to post off one of the bats I sold on eBay.  ;)
Always wanting to do my bit for the environment with recycling, you realize... :)
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on December 02, 2013, 09:11:13 AM
Ok so we can expect to it at the nets on Thurs night? I'm sure everyone on here wants to hear how it goes. Ha.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on December 02, 2013, 09:54:48 AM
I got a net booked from 6.30 this Thurs if you are keen for a hit? I'm gonna give the Kudos a good run.
Title: Re: This morning's net session
Post by: ogroupleader on December 02, 2013, 10:49:21 AM
Sounds good. I'll be there.