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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: procricket on January 04, 2014, 01:24:40 PM
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I'm still of the thought of having a couple of bats running whilst knocking in a couple ready for the season after when in a routine
I try to net with the new bats and do work on them and hav them ready for a winter tour or the following season of I can.
Is there any other different ways people knock there bats in or simply do not knock there bats in.
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Ther are machines around but the don't shorten the process much I think CJI have one?
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All I do and have done for the past 30 years is knock it in with a good hard bat mallet for as long as it takes for the grains to open up and roll the edges on the bath tub. As soon as the grains open up its straight into a game. In all this time I have never once broken or split a bat. I will also add that I give it about 3 cap fulls of linseed oil over 3 days before knocking in on the face, edges, toe and back of the bat.
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Round the edges - takes about about 30 minutes. Start lightly and increase pressure slightly until they're nicely rounded.
Knock the edge of the face - spend about 45 mins - 1 hour on this, don't want edge damage.
Knock in the toe - spend a good 45 mind - 1 hour on this too, most prone to damage so needs properly preparing.
Smack the rest I the playing area - spend 30 mins on this so the face is level, as it has the most wood behind it I hit the middle a bit harder from the off.
In total I spend about 3 - 3 and a half hours knocking in a new bat to make sure it's match ready.
Then have a net against old balls, give catches ect to make sure there's no seam marks.
I I can I try and have them ready for winter training so I can use them comfortably first game of the new season.
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being terminally lazy I pay Its Just Cricket to do it - they use a proper mallet
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This is the one I use.
http://www.millichampandhall.co.uk/clothing-accessories/accessories/mallet.html (http://www.millichampandhall.co.uk/clothing-accessories/accessories/mallet.html)
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I know about the machines I used to use the one at dummer but I find on 2 counts the season method great.
1 wife loses track and I tell here I need a new one.
2 I actually enjoy knocking in my bat and seeing it and feeling to get better knowin I have done a proper job
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I will pay to have the bat knocked in if offered.
B3, vitas, ijc. Have all took my money. I then have half an hour bowling machine and off yo a match it goes.
If knocking in isn't offered.
I roll the edges with my mallets handle. Then half an hours work on the edges with the mallet followed by another roll.
30-45 mins up and down the face.
30mins on toe.
2 half an hour howling machines and then into a game it goes.
I've never been one to start soft and increase the blows. I hit them quite had to start with, and haven't had cracking issues or over denting issues as off yet while knocking in.
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Usually knock my bats in using a flat mallet, round mallet and ball in a sock. Start around now and finish first game of the season for about 15 mins a day.
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This is the one I use.
[url]http://www.millichampandhall.co.uk/clothing-accessories/accessories/mallet.html[/url] ([url]http://www.millichampandhall.co.uk/clothing-accessories/accessories/mallet.html[/url])
Best bat mallet on the market I do all my bats with this mallet and use the kitchen work top to round the edges
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Machines never do an effective job on the edges in my experience, even more since the trend for flat faces. You can't substitute rolling them on a sink/bath rim and then further work with a mallet judged by eye with a machine striking blows at what it regards as a consistent surface.
I use a mallet, and always advise people to keep their bat away from a ball in a match situation, especially a new ball, for as long as possible. How many of them are as 'good' as you Dave and wait the course of maybe a season or more before blooding their new purchase is something I don't know, but i doubt many do.
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I probably spend about an hour max, mainly concentrating on edges/toe after rolling the edges first.
Then I spend ages against softer balls in the nets. Eventually I get fed up and just go for it.
So roughly prep time 3/4 hours of mallet/nets.
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ive never heard of using a bath/kitchen worktop for the edges.
as is this done? is it just a case of moving the bat along its length against the edge of the surface
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Machines never do an effective job on the edges in my experience, even more since the trend for flat faces. You can't substitute rolling them on a sink/bath rim and then further work with a mallet judged by eye with a machine striking blows at what it regards as a consistent surface.
I use a mallet, and always advise people to keep their bat away from a ball in a match situation, especially a new ball, for as long as possible. How many of them are as 'good' as you Dave and wait the course of maybe a season or more before blooding their new purchase is something I don't know, but i doubt many do.
You've not been speaking to Alistair Cook recently, have you??
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Your bats don't last very long.
How many decent knocks do you get out of them?
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Is that aimed at me ???
I use 2 different types I use the puma one same as millichamp and I also have a old Greg Chappell cricket centre one.
I also have a white lingnet tent hammer but I think it has gone a bit flat and rings my bats
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I follow a pretty simple knocking in process. For the edges I do hit them with the mallet on the 45, which is frowned upon by most, but as Paul from IJC has said in one of his knocking in videos on YouTube, if done with care it allows for better control rather than glancing blows. I also do run the edges along the bathtub/bathroom sink and it works very well indeed. The edges, and the bottom 3-4 inches of the blade nearest the toe are where I focus most of my energies, then obviously enough hits on the face to ensure that a cricket ball doesn't do any early damage, being an opener this is far more important being exposed to the new ball.
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I generally round the edges off and spend about an hour - 90 mins on them all together, then probably around 45 mins- hour on the toe, a bit longer towards the edges on the face, and on the face I generally hit them quite hard, trying to do about 40 whacks on one spot at a time then moving along slightly to get the face even,
Once I feel like the only thing that will compress the face is striking it as hard as possible, I head to the nets, generally any sort of bowling, any light seam marks I will ignore but heavy ones I will re-knock :)
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Is that aimed at me ???
I use 2 different types I use the puma one same as millichamp and I also have a old Greg Chappell cricket centre one.
I also have a white lingnet tent hammer but I think it has gone a bit flat and rings my bats
A misunderstanding Dave.
I wasn't alluding the the mallet, more the bat.
Some bats last ages, mine normally two or three seasons, possibly more now I play less.
Your having two bats always in 'prep' mode sounds as if you wear them out quick.
Oh, I use a ball on a stick to start with, roll the edges with the big mallet handle, and then start gently (and methodically) with the heavy (slightly rounded faced) mallet. No rush. I like to get the grains opening before I put the scuff on.
I find that taking time with the bat early doors means you get the grips right, can tinker with new gripping and balance ideas, and when it's ready, you know the bat well.
Still, nothing matters when your talent is degrading with age!
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No worrys mate hope your well bud no I go through around a bat sometimes 2 a season bud
Got potentially 60-70 games including a few 2 Dayers so need them ready and good to go.
I treat cricket as a kind of job the better I do the more days away from work I guess.
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No worrys mate hope your well bud no I go through around a bat sometimes 2 a season bud
Got potentially 60-70 games including a few 2 Dayers so need them ready and good to go.
I treat cricket as a kind of job the better I do the more days away from work I guess.
Life's good, hope your pre-season is cracking on.
My wife would go mental if I went back to those levels. Only in your job can you do that!
Problem I had with that amount away was 'Confidential' time. My boss never gave the the A2 whilst I was playing loads.
You must have a great boss.
Some days I miss the Army, especially when it comes to the cricket season.
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Gents...
Sorry for resurrecting this thread but not learning the lessons of previous years I lent what I am planning on being my new match bat in nets to a couple of team mates after my relatively short session due to numbers who came down. This was to give it more time and of course one of them took one on the shoulder leaving a crack on the face.. it's not too bad as in previous years where toes have gone but this got me thinking..
I've knocked it in for a few hours at least with a bat mallet (not the best one you can get) and it feels good as well as done the toes and edges religiously as I've lost so many bats in previous years to damage in these areas. However, today I've have been using the 'ball in sock' method which seems a great way to get good coverage using a ball which must hit more surface area than a rounded mallet.
Is this correct and how many other people still use the 'ball in sock' method before taking it into a game?