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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Overdrive on January 05, 2014, 07:39:54 PM

Title: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Overdrive on January 05, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
Just got me thinking. Assuming that Haddin wasn'tt taking the mick, what position would that leave Carberry in with everyone knowing he is batting with a restickered GN.

Isnt this some form of misselling if you are inducing people to a certain range when your not actually using it? Generally, we know pro's often have them custom made so is the culture of the big bat makers somewhat devious...accepting this kind of thing just for the media coverage?
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: tim2000s on January 05, 2014, 07:49:12 PM
Pretty sure Haddin was taking the Mick.....

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Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 05, 2014, 07:54:29 PM
Haddin is also sponsored by Kookaburra, I'm 99% certain he said it as a joke...
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: SelectCricket on January 05, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
They were even laughing and talking about it on commentary as a joke.

I don't think Haddin would expose that his own sponsor are just stickering up bats
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: procricket on January 05, 2014, 08:13:54 PM
No it was a deflection thing and aimed at Bailey a GN sponsored player.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Overdrive on January 05, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Quite possibly  ;)

Still the general point stands though...sponsored players using another brands bats.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: procricket on January 05, 2014, 08:17:07 PM
Some brands do not make there own bats so yes some use other brands bats.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: jackmorris on January 05, 2014, 08:36:55 PM
what did haddin actually say? cant quite work it out from the video on youtube??
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: procricket on January 05, 2014, 08:39:43 PM
I head Clarke say something about sympathy
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on January 05, 2014, 08:48:40 PM
Just got me thinking. Assuming that Haddin wasn'tt taking the mick, what position would that leave Carberry in with everyone knowing he is batting with a restickered GN.

Isnt this some form of misselling if you are inducing people to a certain range when your not actually using it? Generally, we know pro's often have them custom made so is the culture of the big bat makers somewhat devious...accepting this kind of thing just for the media coverage?

To answer my thoughts on your actual question. I'd have no idea who uses what on the whole but there are a lot who are basically using stickered up bats. I personally believe it's miss selling when player x is promoting say a kook kahuna but not using it... Not exactly endorsing it if you won't use it !!
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: ManHOOS on January 05, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
Haddin was pleasing his boss i-e Kookaburra  :D

I am pretty sure it was all fun, they were teasing him !
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Overdrive on January 05, 2014, 08:58:48 PM
To answer my thoughts on your actual question. I'd have no idea who uses what on the whole but there are a lot who are basically using stickered up bats. I personally believe it's miss selling when player x is promoting say a kook kahuna but not using it... Not exactly endorsing it if you won't use it !!

That pretty much sums up the general point i'm making. I know money talks but at the very minimum thay should use the endorsing companies products.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Overdrive on January 05, 2014, 08:59:37 PM
Haddin was pleasing his boss i-e Kookaburra  :D

I am pretty sure it was all fun, they were teasing him !

I think so...he was laughing when he said it.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: AlanB on January 05, 2014, 09:04:46 PM

Agree that the bats should be those of the sponsoring manufacturer.
Conversely, how would the manufacture feel if such an incident happened when if is not their kit at fault?
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Abighugeappl on January 05, 2014, 09:07:32 PM
Aussies seeing a Kook breaking are obviously going to be put off ,somewhat, of buying one, so Haddin was trying to say that it wasn't one, to save brand identity?
I don't see how people can take this as "Oh it's really bad that Carberry is using a stickered up bat", when in reality the majority of pro's do
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: procricket on January 05, 2014, 09:09:41 PM
I understand what your saying but people like new balance,Adidas,Kookaburra to a degree do not make there own bats they have them made under licence

And now other big brands are using others under licence it hard to pin point people's bats.

You could have the same bat same model but made in different continents.

Just enjoy your bats for what they are bats no matter where there made I say .

And Carberry bat is a kookaburra looking at the shape and what the sticker says
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: AlanB on January 05, 2014, 09:19:48 PM
If they are made under licence to the same company that makes the bats (or at least the top of the range ones) for the retail market too, I think that's perfectly OK.

If it is simply a sticker, I think that is misleading consumers.




Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: joeljonno on January 05, 2014, 10:16:35 PM
I think everyone is over thinking it.

The bat is like an advertising board, it should be there to promote the company.  It shouldn't matter if it is made by them or not.

I am sure we have had this conversation before and reflected it with the car market.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: AlanB on January 05, 2014, 10:56:27 PM
Yes, there are similarities to other markets, including car manufacturing.

The bats are not just marketed on the pitch though.

Have a look at the Kookaburra website, the inference is the players are using the bats.

The most obvious example last season was Ian Bell, who clearly wasn't using a Menace shape.



Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: toenails97 on January 05, 2014, 11:03:36 PM
Same as the menace mitten gloves mate, however he was wearing the mittens on the stock photos
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: alexhilly1492 on January 06, 2014, 12:42:48 AM
The most obvious example last season was Ian Bell, who clearly wasn't using a Menace shape.

Doesnt bell get his bates made at hawk?
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: toenails97 on January 06, 2014, 07:35:36 AM
Doesnt bell get his bates made at hawk?
He used to now I think kook makes their pro bats
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: AlanB on January 08, 2014, 08:37:44 PM
The broken bat is being donated to a cricket museum. There's a close up photo of it doing the rounds. Unable to provide a link at present. Have seen other comments that it is very likely storm damage.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Bruce on January 08, 2014, 10:21:36 PM
I think he says: "gray- nics fellas, it's just got stickers on it."
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Jason_Yuan on January 09, 2014, 09:32:59 PM
it doesnt look like a GN to me, was quite amused at how a ball from harris did such a damage...
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 09, 2014, 09:37:02 PM
Brad Haddin made the joke into the mic as hes obviously a Kook sponsored player as well....he was making a joke of the fact and saying that it wasnt a kook it was a stickered up GN bat in an attempt to make light of the fact that it had broken and is his sponsored brand.
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on January 09, 2014, 09:52:56 PM
Defo a GN :)

It was an obvious joke ! Can't believe anyone would think otherwise
Title: Re: Carberry broken bat incident
Post by: smilley792 on January 09, 2014, 09:54:17 PM
Defo a GN :)

It was an obvious joke ! Can't believe anyone would think otherwise


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