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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: lazza32 on January 07, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
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Alright guys, just finished training and have a question that I hope someone can answer. I have spent all season trying to perfect technique and have fallen short so these last 2 weeks I said stuff it and played my natural game(see it, hit it) and my batting has been terrific but tonight I went into a net session with our allocated coach and he was pitching fullish deliveries to hit. My way is my front foot goes straight ahead and not across. The coach then kept saying get it across but it just doesn't feel right for me. So do I keep playing my natural game or persist in trying to get technically correct?
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Personally, I think there is a balance between technical and natural that needs to be found. I don't think you will ever change someones natural game and succeed but can always improve on what they already have. As long as your weight is going forward then there shouldn't be a big problem for me. Look at Sehwag and Graeme Smith. Horrible technique but it worked for them. Its more about knowing your own game then knowing what a coaching book tells you to do.
Maybe you could focus more on making sure your balance is perfect if your feet aren't moving to the ball? You might come a cropper on pitches with some movement if there is a big gap between bat a bowl but then again who at our level doesn't have there down falls?
My advice would be stick to your natural game but think about what technical advances could work for you i.e. balance/head movement to the ball/high front elbow.
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If your striking it well a and not in trouble. The there's no reason to get across. As it's working.
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If you playing and missing a lot, or getting outside edges, or the one that comes back in bowls you through the gate a lot. I.e it's getting you out. Then it's time to change the technique.
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If your striking it well a and not in trouble. The there's no reason to get across. As it's working.
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If you playing and missing a lot, or getting outside edges, or the one that comes back in bowls you through the gate a lot. I.e it's getting you out. Then it's time to change the technique.
I was absolutely dominating the bowling with my natural play as soon as I changed to what he asked me to do i got bowled. Maybe I got bowled because I was thinking too much about getting my foot across.
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Training for me is where you work on technical things, in the nets maybe with throwdowns or on a bowling machine more specifically. That's where you are trying to make a conscious skill become a sub-conscious skill and one that then becomes second nature without any thought. Match day is see-ball, hit-ball, don't think about technique as such, play the ball on its merits, adapt to the game situation, etc, and go out there and score runs. I bat my best when I have absolute clarity in thought, an uncluttered mind and I watch the ball as close as I can. If I'm thinking about my front elbow, or my back-lift, then I'm not 100% focused on the ball.
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how do you get on if the bowler swings it away, usually if you go straight down and it swings away you will get in trouble, however it works for sehwag!
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how do you get on if the bowler swings it away, usually if you go straight down and it swings away you will get in trouble, however it works for sehwag!
how do you get on if the bowler swings it away, usually if you go straight down and it swings away you will get in trouble, however it works for sehwag!
Not a problem at all, my offside play is great but my onside not so. My weakness is a inswinger from a left hander that's pitched up
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Not a problem at all, my offside play is great but my onside not so. My weakness is a inswinger from a left hander that's pitched up
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ah I hear you mate, mine are the straight ones ;-) sounds like you hit inside out a lot so scoring in through cover mainly, maybe get the machine setup nad on middle and off and try to hit it "in the V" practise that and see how you do, then at least you will have two zones. if I was fielding captain I put catchers up and a deep cover to stop the runs. I always think when batting where do they not want me to hit it. then opens up more comfortable places to score quickly
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The only way I can remodel myself to push my foot over to cover off stump would be to relearn how to to play onside flicks and glances because if the ball is pitched at leg,middle or middle/off i would need to hit the ball towards on side somehow
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ah I hear you mate, mine are the straight ones ;-) sounds like you hit inside out a lot so scoring in through cover mainly, maybe get the machine setup nad on middle and off and try to hit it "in the V" practise that and see how you do, then at least you will have two zones. if I was fielding captain I put catchers up and a deep cover to stop the runs. I always think when batting where do they not want me to hit it. then opens up more comfortable places to score quickly
that's exactly what they do. So when the runs dry up I have to cross bat.
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yeah and they aerial and trouble come into play, do you have a trigger at all ? what guard do you take ?
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get your "coach" to video you and more clearly show you what your issue is.
Personally I prefer to coach people to get their eyes over the ball through impact, then your feet will get into a suitable position for you. Balance is key. If you can show your coach that your eyes and head are in the right place you can confidently tell him to sling his hook. If not, you may want to work on that in the nets. Just "moving your feet" on its own means not a lot and is difficult to do as you lose your balance and miss the ball if that is all you are concentrating on.
The only way I can remodel myself to push my foot over to cover off stump would be to relearn how to to play onside flicks and glances because if the ball is pitched at leg,middle or middle/off i would need to hit the ball towards on side somehow
this isn't a workable solution.
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I take guard middle/leg with an open stance(front foot slightly behind rear). I have a low hold and try to have a low backlift but still can't get muscle memory to play a straight bat. Thinking of doing the MCC trick of a newspaper under the armpit of my rear arm
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Thinking of doing the MCC trick of a newspaper under the armpit of my rear arm
sounds like a terrible plan! you want to make a diamond with your front and rear elbows being the main points, your head and hands being the other. If you tuck a newspaper under your rear arm you wont be able to play straight at all...
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buzz for the purpose of training alone would there be any benefit in practicing a straight drive using stationary balls to get the correct movement and balance
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watch Chris Rogers from side on batting............ for the perfect diamond shape
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buzz for the purpose of training alone would there be any benefit in practicing a straight drive using stationary balls to get the correct movement and balance
well yes and no.
how often do you hit a stationary ball in cricket?
I think drop feeds (where someone stands beside you and drops a tennis ball and you hit it on the second bounce) are more effective as there is a timing element. But different people find different things help them, so I wouldn't say no, there is a time and a place for that kind of practice.
But as I said, your head position is more important that your feet position. Get your eyes/head in the right place and everything else will follow. If you move your foot first I believe you are going to find it harder to get right in a game situation - as you could end up with your weight going back (to move your foot) and then forward (as you try to play the shot).
Moving your head/eyes first towards the line of the ball keeps your weight and momentum going towards the ball which is what you want.
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problem is most of the time I have to train alone. So usually i book the probatter but it's expensive so i can only do that once a week and then i train with the club twice a week. I will definitely target the head and shoulder moves on the probatter on friday. Thanks buzz
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well yes and no.
how often do you hit a stationary ball in cricket?
I think drop feeds (where someone stands beside you and drops a tennis ball and you hit it on the second bounce) are more effective as there is a timing element. But different people find different things help them, so I wouldn't say no, there is a time and a place for that kind of practice.
How many time do you hit tennis balls in cricket ?
I would recommend using cricket balls or bowling machine balls for all batting practice.
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A mixture of technical and natural.
Most of the video of people playing on here are players who try to look correct.
I netted with a couple of lads on saturday one was trying to look to technical and correct and was far from enjoying it or it seemed that way.
The other lad played a few forward defensive shots and hammered the hell out of it straight and played with a smile on his face.
Yes the younger player is a decent player but he worried too much about things he has the basics of a good player and a few technical issue to sort but all in good time. Must add this lad is a natural timer of a ball but by trying to look too correct he lost his balance then lost his power because he was miles from the ball.
The other lad has a decent technique but knows his strengths and i suspect no's his weakness but in his uncomplicated way you could see how he would score runs.
Use a mixture of both but as a Lancashire one day player once said to me score as many as you can because you will get out eventually.
Enjoy your cricket and work on both if hitting the ball gives you enjoyment do that but remember there a price to play just ask Aaron Finch.
Balance is key without going into head shapes and diamonds also known as figure of 9.
Enjoy your cricket is the key and do what makes you enjoy it more.
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Not a problem at all, my offside play is great but my onside not so. My weakness is a inswinger from a left hander that's pitched up
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Do you still take a good stride forward? If so, try reducing it to less that 12 inches to play an on drive or clip to leg. Worked for me.
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Mate what a difference 1 week makes. I spent all week practicing what buzz told me and today scored my first 50. Had to retire because it was just too hot and I was getting sick, we had a temp. of 43 degrees today. forgot completely about footwork and just dipped my shoulders towards where the ball was pitching which in turn naturally put my feet where they were needed for balance. Thanks Buzz