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Forum News and Suggestions => Old Advertisers => Admin Board => Aldred Cricket Bats => Topic started by: Aldred Cricket Bats on January 15, 2014, 11:50:03 AM
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Ok with the frustration being ever growing that my website isn't quite ready due to a couple of hiccups here are my 2014 prices and what we have changed for the year.
To start with we have taken the vintage out of the equation as we have now made these into the players grades and these are available in the velocity and the supreme range. The silver and gold range are available in grade 1 down.
For custom bat members we are keeping the discount offer going for you on the players grades and the grade 1s.
Velocity and supreme range I won't post pics on these two as you are very familiar with the shapes on here
Players £295.00 15% discount £250.75
Grade 1 £255.00 15% discount £216.75
Grade 2 £190.00
Grade 3 £165.00
Butterfly1 £170.00
Butterfly £135.00
Pads £80.00
Gloves £65.00
Thigh pads £20.00
Inner thigh £8.00
The pads and gloves are of the highest quality and we had them upgraded again to fit In with the wishes of what our experts on the field suggested i.e. Current and ex pros. We only do the one range so as with everything else we do they are top notch professional quality in that beautiful traditional style.
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/07ba2d756a13a1e1b86212ef70e6acff_zps1e21d35c.jpg)
Ok now the silver range has a full spine that runs the full length of the bat from handle to toe and the gold is exactly the same except that the spine is blended into the bat at the toe giving it lovely pick up and feel. These are the two pics below. These are available in grade 1 down to butterfly starting from 2-9 in weight.
Silver
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/0ce8f21fae093399559d98e77ac4af01_zps3b86582e.jpg)
Gold
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/adda6bae1af331d0e1c995ad98011ffb_zpsb6211d62.jpg)
Let me know if I've missed anything out
Paul
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Thanks for that Paul I had tried the website but it was just showing last years prices. I am just waiting for the relevant funds to be allocated from the treasurer of my household and I will be in touch with my requirements.
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I think a lot of butterflies will be taking flight... ;)
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Now or nearer the warmer weather of the summer typewriter are they still in their cocoons at the minute mate?lol
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Am having to keep the temperature down in the workshop so they don't grow too early :)
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Try living in Cumbria don't have to worry about keeping temperatures down except when asking female treasurer of household for coin of the realm for Mr Alfred's creations then its worse than facing Mitch without a lid. lol
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Try living in Cumbria don't have to worry about keeping temperatures down except when asking female treasurer of household for coin of the realm for Mr Alfred's creations then its worse than facing Mitch without a lid. lol
What's the butler got to do with it?
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Apologies typo error fingers not relaxed when mentioning ice maiden in any form in any post in case she should ever read it.
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Includin postage paul?
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Yep including postage I uk.
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Now or nearer the warmer weather of the summer typewriter are they still in their cocoons at the minute mate?lol
speaking of the warm weather. Down here in AUS this is what we have had to put up with this week MON 42C TUES 44C WED 46 THURS (today) 47C FRI (cool Change) 38C
ahhhh summer time....was still 42C last night at 8:30pm bloody ridiculous
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I would take warm weather over cold weather any day
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It does get boring I have to say.
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speaking of the warm weather. Down here in AUS this is what we have had to put up with this week MON 42C TUES 44C WED 46 THURS (today) 47C FRI (cool Change) 38C
ahhhh summer time....was still 42C last night at 8:30pm bloody ridiculous
Ouch..... I take it your in adelaide or melbourne? Not too bad in perth atm and usually you get our weather 3-4 days after we do...thank heavens for backyard swimming pools and ducted air con......
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Ouch..... I take it your in adelaide or melbourne? Not too bad in perth atm and usually you get our weather 3-4 days after we do...thank heavens for backyard swimming pools and ducted air con......
yea pretty close Country SA.....first night of pre-season footy this week aswell which was nice way to be welcomed back
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anyway back on topic....ill send you an email shortly Paul with my specs. i just havent had time to get around to it.
cheers
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Players £295.00 15% discount £250.75
Grade 1 £255.00 15% discount £216.75
Grade 2 £190.00
Grade 3 £165.00
Butterfly1 £170.00
Butterfly £135.00
Pads £80.00
Gloves £65.00
Thigh pads £20.00
Inner thigh £8.00
The pads and gloves are of the highest quality and we had them upgraded again to fit In with the wishes of what our experts on the field suggested i.e. Current and ex pros. We only do the one range so as with everything else we do they are top notch professional quality in that beautiful traditional style.
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/07ba2d756a13a1e1b86212ef70e6acff_zps1e21d35c.jpg)
Do you do any sort of bundle deals?
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Drop me an email on aldred173@btinternet.com and I will help you from there
Regards
Paul
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My God... I know what my next bat is gonna be, that Gold Sovreign shape is beautiful. Looks like just the slightest bit of concaving, am I right Paul?
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Yes we don't overly concave as I'm not a fan of it but a certain amount is essential to get the weight down to keep bigger looking bats which is what the market desires regardless
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What's the difference between a butterfly and a butterfly 1 ?
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Paul grades his butterfly willow into 2 grades: Grade 1 butterfly which have beautiful straight grains with a small butterfly mark and a regular butterfly which can have some waves in the grains, etc. to me, the Grade 1 butterfly is a brilliant compromise as quite often you can't even see the butterfly marks unless you look closely!
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My take was that it's on number of grains. Most of the grade ones have loads. From what I've seen the grains on butterfly willow tend to be a lot straighter - it can look as though they waver in the stain area but if you look closely you see that they are actually straight and the marks are in the stain, not the grains themselves.
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Ok with the frustration being ever growing that my website isn't quite ready due to a couple of hiccups here are my 2014 prices and what we have changed for the year.
To start with we have taken the vintage out of the equation as we have now made these into the players grades and these are available in the velocity and the supreme range. The silver and gold range are available in grade 1 down.
For custom bat members we are keeping the discount offer going for you on the players grades and the grade 1s.
Velocity and supreme range I won't post pics on these two as you are very familiar with the shapes on here
Players £295.00 15% discount £250.75
Grade 1 £255.00 15% discount £216.75
Grade 2 £190.00
Grade 3 £165.00
Butterfly1 £170.00
Butterfly £135.00
Pads £80.00
Gloves £65.00
Thigh pads £20.00
Inner thigh £8.00
The pads and gloves are of the highest quality and we had them upgraded again to fit In with the wishes of what our experts on the field suggested i.e. Current and ex pros. We only do the one range so as with everything else we do they are top notch professional quality in that beautiful traditional style.
([url]http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/07ba2d756a13a1e1b86212ef70e6acff_zps1e21d35c.jpg[/url])
Ok now the silver range has a full spine that runs the full length of the bat from handle to toe and the gold is exactly the same except that the spine is blended into the bat at the toe giving it lovely pick up and feel. These are the two pics below. These are available in grade 1 down to butterfly starting from 2-9 in weight.
Silver
([url]http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/0ce8f21fae093399559d98e77ac4af01_zps3b86582e.jpg[/url])
Gold
([url]http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/adda6bae1af331d0e1c995ad98011ffb_zpsb6211d62.jpg[/url])
Let me know if I've missed anything out
Paul
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Hi, I am Raj, do you have any bat available for sale now. Let me know
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@Chauhan1947
Welcome to the forum. You have been asking in many threads if people have bats available. If you are looking to purchase a bat on here, you may get a better response by messaging each of the retailers / makers directly. This can be done via the private message function against everyone's profile, and may help get a direct answer.
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I think Paul tends to communicate more through his Facebook page nowadays. If you don't get a reply on here, I suggest trying him on there or contacting him through his website. He is pretty good at replying in a short timeframe and his kit is worth any small wait you may have!
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Hi, I am Raj, do you have any bat available for sale now. Let me know
It's difficult to read between the lines, but from your first 6 posts I'd say you might be looking for a bat?
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It's difficult to read between the lines, but from your first 6 posts I'd say you might be looking for a bat?
Or perhaps the forum disease has him already and he wants six bats?
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Or perhaps the forum disease has him already and he wants six bats?
I see you mentioned the word 'bats' in your post, do you have any for sale?
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I looked into a grade1 butterfly. Asked Paul about the following text....
Please check out my website www.aldredcricketbats.com (http://www.aldredcricketbats.com) for my 2016 prices and please remember to email me for your custom bats discount of 15%.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=36913.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=36913.0)
...he got the hump so I asked about a normal butterfly which works out about the same price as the 15% discount would be and he hasn't replied since. Must be the time of the year.
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I looked into a grade1 butterfly. Asked Paul about the following text....
Please check out my website [url=http://www.aldredcricketbats.com]www.aldredcricketbats.com[/url] ([url]http://www.aldredcricketbats.com[/url]) for my 2016 prices and please remember to email me for your custom bats discount of 15%.
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=36913.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=36913.0[/url])
...he got the hump so I asked about a normal butterfly which works out about the same price as the 15% discount would be and he hasn't replied since. Must be the time of the year.
I was always under the impression that its 15% off the players and grade.one. Pauls a top bloke.
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Yeah so was I
Dealt with Paul numerous times for 3/4 bats and never heard of him getting hump
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15% discount is on Top grade bats & Pads/Gloves only.
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Another in agreement. Dealt with Paul a fair amount. One of the nicest guys I have had the pleasure to meet. I can't imagine him getting the hump. From my experience the discounts are as outlined above. I would further say, his bats are amongst the best I have ever used at any prices, and I think his prices offer fantastic value.
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£320 for players on Pauls website so £272 with 15% discount
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This forum hasn't been showing much interest in Paul's work, of late?
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A product of consentrating on building a Facebook profile I think
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I was always under the impression that its 15% off the players and grade.one. Pauls a top bloke.
I wasn't sure so I used the search engine and found the 15% off offer which looked to be the whole range.
If you've clicked on the link it does lead you to believe for 2016 it was so I wasn't trying to pull one over on Paul but it doesn't look like he sees it that way.
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A product of consentrating on building a Facebook profile I think
Regardless of what he's up to online, if this is a forum of bat lovers, then his bats ought to being talked about.
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This forum hasn't been showing much interest in Paul's work, of late?
I am not a fan anymore.
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Very much a fan. A top bloke and too bats. When I get around to looking into how to upload pictures would be happy to run through the fantastic bats he has made me.
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It's a real shame that Paul doesn't have much to do with the forum anymore, his posts and videos were always very interesting and his openess and honesty about the bat making industry was extremely refreshing. There are other sponsors on here like Aldred such as Kippax and Rob Pack that rarely contribute and as such receive very little of the forum limelight, however they all make terrific bats.
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I am not a fan anymore.
Because?
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Because?
Horrible business experience.
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Horrible business experience.
Would you care to elaborate?
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Would you care to elaborate?
No, it's perhaps not the right place. This would be unfair to his business and his reputation, and I don't want to create a mess for him or for this forum.
Who knows, May be I had a one off bad experience and perhaps he is generally a good guy? I hope so.
All I know is that I am gutted and not doing business with Paul anymore.
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Fair enough, you're probably doing the most honourable thing by not disclosing your dispute on here
Maybe sometimes others should follow your lead on things like this
But then again that would make the forum a lot more boring!
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I would actually say that I disagree Benj - @Sitonit has graphically described that he has had a 'horrible' experience and that he 'hopes' Paul is a good guy.
In my opinion this is as bad as some of the histrionic posts people put on here moaning about their bats before even trying to settle the matter with the bat-maker.
The poster has merely hinted at dissatifaction / poor service / something seriously wrong/ without giving any facts. This is the sort of thing that will lead some of the more highly-strung and imbecilic members to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4000. No-one actually knows what happened, and sometimes half facts are no better than no facts at all.
I do apologise @Sitonit- I have no axe to grind with you - but in my humble opinion, making vague and unsubstantiated comments about someone is worse than coming out and criticising them specifically.
Other people have posted that Paul is not on here as much as he used to be - and you wonder why?
Either go the whole hog, or say nothing at all!
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Couldn't agree more with the previous post. These are people's livelihoods we are messing about with and I can quite understand why a lot of the craftsman in the industry as a result don't partake in discussion on here.
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One of the nicest blokes I've ever met
And Paul's bats are world class
But I suppose you can't please all the people all the time
I've worked in customer service for twenty years,and there are some incredibly unrealistic people
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I've bought a bat from Paul and he seemed like a lovely bloke and my experience was good.
Seems like there's not as much discussion about Aldred bats on the forum anymore as any time a topic is posted, Paul pretty much says email me, check my website or Facebook page. There are obviously reasons for this but it's a shame.
Even if not directly, I'm sure that this forum has given Paul a lot of trade over the last few years. I for example phoned Paul to order my bat, but was very much made aware of him and his bats by the forum.
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I spoke to him in person recently (a couple of months ago) and from what I could gather he has gone off the forum for a number of reasons.
The first one is time, being the only person in the company and doing everything himself he finds it hard to do a lot of the social media, forum stuff along with doing day to day work like making bats. Paul isn't interested in growing the business quickly and is happy doing what he does now and if there is always enough to put food on the table then he's happy, his goal is to simply make the best quality kit for us cricketers and not to make a quick buck.
Another reason is that he kinda feels the forum isn't the best place to sell bats as a lot of people (using his words) "just want me to upload pictures of grainy bats with no intention of buying anything". I can see what he means as he can put a lot of work into the forum and bend over backwards for people who have specific requests for them to turn around and decide not to buy a bat. This can be very frustrating as all that time and effort has been for nothing, multiply this by 10 and you can easily loose a day of potential work chasing potential customers who have no intention of buying from him but just like to see bats.
I'm sure if he had the time or someone to do the sales side of the business then he might be more active on the forum but it is sad that he feels his time isn't best spent on here. Personally over the last 12 months the forum has become an odd place where threads turn into areas for keyboard warriors to fight in, please can we just get back to the cricket and the love of the game.
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Personally over the last 12 months the forum has become an odd place where threads turn into areas for keyboard warriors to fight in, please can we just get back to the cricket and the love of the game.
Hear hear!
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Just wanted to add that I got a bat from Paul about a month or so ago and his service was brilliant. Replied to my numerous emails usually within minutes and was really helpful when I asked him other things about knocking in and looking after the bat. He told me that he just doesn't have time to constantly be on the forum any more, so if people are interested in his bats I would recommend searching for his facebook page. He puts up pictures of the clefts he has in and you can choose what you want by messaging him on there or emailing him. That's what I did with the bat I got and it was at my house 10 days later.
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From my experience he can be a touch grouchy at times, but I won't hold that against anyone. There's no doubt he makes a mean bat though, the ones i have seen have all been stormers from Grade 1 to Butterfly, and the coach at Lords wanted to sneak off with it when we were there!
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No, it's perhaps not the right place. This would be unfair to his business and his reputation, and I don't want to create a mess for him or for this forum.
Who knows, May be I had a one off bad experience and perhaps he is generally a good guy? I hope so.
All I know is that I am gutted and not doing business with Paul anymore.
um...you kinda already created a mess for him, by saying this, and keeping it vague. better to reveal the details so at least people can reach an objective opinion, instead of just worried about what about him made you feel gutted.
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um...you kinda already created a mess for him, by saying this, and keeping it vague. better to reveal the details so at least people can reach an objective opinion, instead of just worried about what about him made you feel gutted.
That's your assumption and your opinion that you are entitled to.
I have left it open when I said "May be I had a one off bad experience and perhaps he is generally a good guy?"
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Well my entitled opinion is you've half-opened the door and will lead people to make their own assumptions about a man and a brand on a forum that loves supposition and making ridiculous bullsh*t statements.
By all means come on here with a valid complaint, particularly if you have discussed it with the man himself first - but you implied something and then didn't back it up, in my book that's bad form and the sort of thing that keeps manufacturers off this forum because we're too much grief for them.
Not your finest hour!!
ps - before any of you start yowling "Forum Sponsors should be allowed to be criticised" - I completely agree, but this is not what has been done here. Either get it out and wave it about, or keep it zipped up!
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I've got a bat from Paul and it is up there with the best bats I've ever used. I've only ever found him to be polite, helpful and patient when dealing with him and in my opinion his butterfly offerings are probably the best value bats around.
I'm not surprised he doesn't post much on here any more for various reasons. I'm sure many of us have had a bat off Paul, some will go back and get another, some might not. There aren't many new members knocking around that don't end up leaving before they've bought a bat and managing a group of potential customers on here without rubbing someone up the wrong way or getting targeted as some other sponsors have been probably isn't worth his time now.
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Well my entitled opinion is you've half-opened the door and will lead people to make their own assumptions about a man and a brand on a forum that loves supposition and making ridiculous bullsh*t statements.
By all means come on here with a valid complaint, particularly if you have discussed it with the man himself first - but you implied something and then didn't back it up, in my book that's bad form and the sort of thing that keeps manufacturers off this forum because we're too much grief for them.
Not your finest hour!!
ps - before any of you start yowling "Forum Sponsors should be allowed to be criticised" - I completely agree, but this is not what has been done here. Either get it out and wave it about, or keep it zipped up!
Firstly, I wholeheartedly agree with your post, but by even commenting we are propagating the issue. By totaling ignoring the original comment the lack of response from Forum members would be an indication of the validity of the comment and it would hopefully die a death sooner.
But then again - maybe not!
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That would be the sensible thing to do Percival, but the posts got my 'dander' up, and I couldn't let it pass.
In my defence, the thread has also provoked many posts supporting Paul's service and products, so that can only be a good thing!! :)
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Percy I agree with the sentiment of you post, but whilst new to the forum, I do think it is important to make this point. It would be nice to be part of a forum that craftsman especially and shops to a degree will me more willing to enter into discussions on the subjects that are dear to us all. I am of the belief that the majority do not for the reasons outlined ealier in the post, ie fear. One unnamed batmaker reffered to the forum as a scary place, and for me that is a sadness, and mostly due to the chance of being strung up over a misunderstanding or issues being dealt with in a public forum rather than privately, and finally conjectures and suggestions... As a result I think it important that non making forum members do our utmost to defend these skilled and knowledgeable men that are the core of this forum.
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That would be the sensible thing to do Percival, but the posts got my 'dander' up, and I couldn't let it pass.
In my defence, the thread has also provoked many posts supporting Paul's service and products, so that can only be a good thing!! :)
I know how you feel - sometimes it just has to be said!
Can't say I have used one of Paul's bats but from everything I have heard they are something special.
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On the topic of prices though.
I sourced a used Aldred butterfly from here for a team mate. I thought it would suit him.
In his first game he went out and scored his first 100. It sounds like a Master card advert.
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Bat that I bought 2 years ago from Paul custom made, to be a net bat, is now my number 1 match bat, flies out of the middle and is still in amazing condition. Nothing but good stuff to say for Paul and his work
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I'll add to the chorus of approval, which might help undo some of the (grossly unfair IMHO) damage that's been done here. My Gold Sovereign butterfly, which Paul made in front of me 2 years ago, is possibly the best performing bat I've ever had, fantastic value, and Paul was an absolute pleasure to deal with every step of the way. Did an exceptional job of reducing it a bit a year ago when (owing entirely to my own bravado) I specified it too heavy for my liking.
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To be fair, this topic is like a tripadvisor review.
People love to complain. Hundreds of people might visit a restaurant and have great food, great service and go home feeling satisfied and that's the end of it. A couple of people might leave a review on trip advisor but the vast majority wouldn't even consider it.
Three people will go to the same restaurant and a fly might fart near them, they will get upset and they will 100% go on trip advisor and leave a really (No Swearing Please) review. So for those 100 happy customers, maybe 5 will leave a good review compared to the 3 unhappy ones how have left 3 bad reviews. When you as a potential new customer read these reviews, you'll see that 37.5% of the people who left a review were unhappy with the service they received and you'll consider going elsewhere.
This is why leaving (No Swearing Please) throwaway comments about someones service on the internet is an awful thing to do. Luckily the reviews for Paul in this thread alone should help convince people otherwise. Clearly Paul is doing something right. I'm not saying you should put up with poor customer service, but posting crap about things on the internet should be your absolute last resort, not something you should do because the vendor hasn't replied to the email you sent 20 minutes ago yet.
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Firstly, I wholeheartedly agree with your post, but by even commenting we are propagating the issue. By totaling ignoring the original comment the lack of response from Forum members would be an indication of the validity of the comment and it would hopefully die a death sooner.
But then again - maybe not!
Well this will be my last ever post in this forum. So you think that because I didn't reply to the guy as promptly as normal that me and my business should die a death sooner rather than later. Is that the gist of it? As it happens I didn't get back as quick as normal as I was in fact in the middle of nowhere in France with barely any internet service working for the Lord's Taverners with a group helping children with physical and mental disabilities. Now this may for other one man businesses be something different like a family illness or death or something that takes them away for a few days and you wish them I'll because of an unfortunate predicament, well that's a very nice way to think and I really hope life goes perfectly swimmingly for you.
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@Aldred Cricket Bats that post by Percy was totally unrelated to the recent thread! And he certainly isn't saying that your business should die either!
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@Aldred Cricket Bats that post by Percy was totally unrelated to the recent thread! And he certainly isn't saying that your business should die either!
Definitely not! My hope was that the post would die a death as not being valid or with substance! I am a great supporter of all small businesses, cricket related or not, and would never dream of saying such a thing and am sorry that it was misunderstood!
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Well this will be my last ever post in this forum. So you think that because I didn't reply to the guy as promptly as normal that me and my business should die a death sooner rather than later. Is that the gist of it? As it happens I didn't get back as quick as normal as I was in fact in the middle of nowhere in France with barely any internet service working for the Lord's Taverners with a group helping children with physical and mental disabilities. Now this may for other one man businesses be something different like a family illness or death or something that takes them away for a few days and you wish them I'll because of an unfortunate predicament, well that's a very nice way to think and I really hope life goes perfectly swimmingly for you.
Blimey, talk about misreading and flying off the handle :( :o
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I think Aldreds comments show he's no longer invested in the forum. He's scan read this thread. Took something completely out of context and blown a gasket.
One has to presume the recent thread isn't the reason he's off, but one of many straws that broke the donkeys back.
This place is obviously no longer for paul, so good luck to him and his future endeavours.
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I actually agree with Smilley. Good job I'm already lying down.
Look at Paul's comments in the locked thread about the heavy bat he made;
So apparently I am now a con man who has no moral values or skills whatsoever and someone who is apparently arrogant and conceited because I am an ex player and try to offer advice.
All of which I don't think anyone said. Shame because he has a decent reputation but no-one - sponsor or otherwise - is beyond reproach and if they throw a wobbly and flounce as soon as they're questioned, then what can anyone really do about it?
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I am not surprised Paul; is upset. he has taken a bit of stick in some recent threads. Paul there are a lot of us who love you kit.
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Where's that bandwagon?
I forgot to jump on