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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Ashes 2013/2014 => Topic started by: awp on January 17, 2014, 01:38:24 AM
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Media suggest Carberry in for Root. Johnson in, Marsh in for Watson.
Clearly England arent going to make the changes many on here have suggested ought to be made........but I would love to see that if england get off to a safe start (0/25 of 10 overs :D ) do something interesting and send Butler in
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Doubt England will ever change the batting order.
Another defensive coach.
270 is no longer good enough in odi's. But England haven't got that yet. Too 4 continue to bat too slow
Hope the Aussies win the toss and bat. Looks like a flat pitch, 350+ might be on the cards with this bowling line up
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England unchanged and batting.
How does root continue to be selected
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This is a 300+ wicket. Any less will be below par.
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Think both teams particularly England have got the team selection wrong by not picking a front line spinner. Treadwell should have been playing
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Root fails again and wastes a review. Does he ever think he's out
Could have been out twice before that
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could that be the end of Root for a little period of time ?
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Balance doing what he did last match. Struggling to rotate strike against part time spin and putting pressure on bell.
And balance gets out having a big mow.
Village stuff against part timers
Think Morgan needs to step up next game and come in at 4
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3/85 in almost 19.. hope they stitch a partnership now and get to a decent score.
What's the par score on this wicket btw?
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3/85 in almost 19.. hope they stitch a partnership now and get to a decent score.
What's the par score on this wicket btw?
winning av 279
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winning av 279
Can add 30-40 to that given the new rules and a flat wicket.
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Big pitch and a slow outfield but should be easy 300 as long as you don't give your wicket away!
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Big pitch and a slow outfield but should be easy 300 as long as you don't give your wicket away!
Think bell just did that.
300 looks a long shot now
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I wouldn't have a clue who else England have up their sleeve back home but I am sure there are some really good batsman who must be asking why they are being over looked for Root.
Seems like England are giving Cook and Root the opportunity to get themselves back into form and to hell with the team. I know Cook and Root don't want to withdraw themselves and want to try and show they have the goods but enough is enough. Management step up and send them home!
I'm beyond frustrated and I'm a Kiwi, you Poms must be pulling your hair out.
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Was Root beaten for pace or just misjudged the ball coming in? It seemed like he was really really late playing the ball. Just saw the replays.
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Was Root beaten for pace or just misjudged the ball coming in? It seemed like he was really really late playing the ball. Just saw the replays.
Bit of Both, beaten for pace and it did came back in. Could have been out before that though with a Few balls dropping short of the fielder.
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As most people would know by now Root is a back foot player. Struggles to get forward and that's his downfall at this level.
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(No Swearing Please) useless Bopara.
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(No Swearing Please) useless Bopara.
Can't expect him to do much. Top order batted too slow.
12 boundaries so far in the Innings isn't good enough
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If a miracle does happen, 284 is the highest odi run chase.
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And looks like around 250 is what Eng can manage now :(
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Can't expect him to do much. Top order batted too slow.
12 boundaries so far in the Innings isn't good enough
He didn't need to chip it to mid wicket. England are nicely set, Bell and Morgan set a good platform, typical Bopara.
England's tactics of seeing off the new ball and then exploding in the latter overs will always mean they don't score as many boundaries in the first 30. Whether that's the right tactics or not is highly questionable outside of England.
If Morgan and Buttler bat to their capabilities we will get the much needed 300.
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If Morgan hangs around he could really go at the end, but England need to get in with up.... Come on the mighty Aussies!
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He didn't need to chip it to mid wicket. England are nicely set, Bell and Morgan set a good platform, typical Bopara.
England's tactics of seeing off the new ball and then exploding in the latter overs will always mean they don't score as many boundaries in the first 30. Whether that's the right tactics or not is highly questionable outside of England.
If Morgan and Buttler bat to their capabilities we will get the much needed 300.
Given those tactics, the powerplay in effect and 2 batsmen to come, bopara is expected to go and play shots.
With England packing the batting and weakening the bowling line up, that tactic is wrong.
You had the top 4 struggle to get maxwell off the square, for him to bowl 8 overs for less than 4rpo is just poor
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Agree completely with the tactics being all wrong but Bopara had just hit a brilliant straight 6. No need for anything other than a straight bat and carry on. It's a very poor shot for an experienced one day player.
Carberry could be the man to split up the plodders and a horrendously out of form Root. I think you can put a lot more pressure on the fielding captain with the new rules. Expect Australia with Warner/Finch to go hard early doors, a positive start to any innings usually makes 300 plus a cake walk under the new fielding regs.
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Agree completely with the tactics being all wrong bit Bopara had just hit a brilliant straight 6. No need for anything other than a straight bat and carry on. It's a very poor shot for an experienced one day player.
Yup agreed it's a soft dismissal for him. Would much rather see either Bopara or Morgan come in at 3/4 and show some intent in the middle.
Some hitting by Morgan at the moment.
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England looking good here, might be a good run chase tonight. Morgan going off.
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Superb hitting.
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Told ya! Morgan could of just saved this game for England!
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Guess what - 264+ in 46... game on!!! Massive hitting Morgan!!
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Morgan is a very good player. Looks busy from ball 1. Imagine if they had an aggressive top 3 to get them off to a flyer. Bell did try...
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Brilliant 100 by Morgan. Aussie death bowling seems a problem. Even in the India series they went for 120+ in the last 10.
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Morgan is a very good player. Looks busy from ball 1. Imagine if they had an aggressive top 3 to get them off to a flyer. Bell did try...
Carberry, Hales, Wright. We have the players capable.
Class from Morgan take a bow.
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What a shot to bring up the ton by Morgan! Absolute ripper! Very good knock...
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Carberry, Hales, Wright. We have the players capable.
Class from Morgan take a bow.
Shame the previous coach and current coach have no clue about ODI cricket and tactics.
How was that fielding not referred. Clearly a 6
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Nassers point sums it up, stick your fielders on the middle tier and make sure they aren't touching the floor when they pat it back. You cant jump from off the field of play surely?!?!
6 all day. At our ground there is a fence surrounding the field. I'm going to put two men on top of the fence and make sure they jump.
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The umpire is on debut so maybe doesn't know the rules. But that's 6 all day long
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I reckon they will review it in the break and give him a 6
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What bat is Chris Jordan using?
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Still think it's a par total even with Morgan's brilliant knock. Particularly with England's bowling line up. 4 bowlers who bowl around the same pace.
Makes no sense going into a odi with no front line spinner. Would rather prefer treadwell instead of bresnan.
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What bat is Chris Jordan using?
PR. Indian company I believe
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I reckon they will review it in the break and give him a 6
Spot on mate.
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seems like we only need one hand to catch today, great take from jordan
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Couple of good catches. Maybe should have gone one handed off Finchy in the last ODI, might have stuck.
Root's stats show that he deserves a chance, however, a poor test series and a poor 2-3 one-day games suggest his chance is almost over for this tour.
I was surprised that they didn't bring Carbs in for Root and move Bell to 3. I guess his "part-time off-spin" saved him. If that is the case and the same team is for the next ODI, I'd suggest moving Root to 7 and everybody up one. I like Buttler and has shown his confidence and talent, but got to balance between getting enough time and getting him in too early. I think the 5 or 6 berth would probably be the best place for him. 7-8 is proving too low.
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Just watched it fast forwarding between balls so caught up.
Lots of thoughts on cook, but interesting to see no english captain has got to 2000 runs as skip faster. And no english captain has an average even close to cook as captain. Maybe he does need to be given a chance.
Root looksoutofnick and needs a break or moving to 6 if they are picking him as a spinner. But he needs to stop reviewing. Having said that. Bell clearly tells him to as it looked high.
Bell batted good but should have got a ton.
Morgan was awesome
Buttler did well.
But if bell had stayed, we should have 330.
if we didn't throw wickets away in last two overs. We could easily being 315-320.
glad to see buttlers shot changed to six. But bet he's gutted he was out on 49.
how Come the non test players Morgan, bopara and buttler didn't look scared offjohnstone and played him well? Yet test players still looked in fear?
Mckay was (No Swearing Please). How's he get picked?
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Clarke gone to root..... again. Problems? Lol(clutching at straws)
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Root, off spinner and part-time batsman???
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"how Come the non test players Morgan, bopara and buttler didn't look scared offjohnstone and played him well? Yet test players still looked in fear?"
Totally different game. Different fields, Different rules in terms of wides etc. ODI cricket has rules to make bowlers put the ball in a batter friendly area etc etc.
Still, maybe Morgan could go into the test middle order again?
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England playing a great game, Marsh need to play the innings if his life!
Also Michael Clarke would be close to Cooks average as skipper! If not better after his year last year!
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Well bowled Joe Root!
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It's funny to think had Ballance not dropped that dolly at the MCG, of Finch, Finch would have only score 8 and a duck in two innings. And a Finch would've been under press heading into the third match.
Personally don't rate Finch.
Marsh/Hughes should open and Steven Smith should be in the middle order(in Watson's absence).
Chris Jordan looks a top prospect. Morgan finally rediscovering his best ODI form.
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Bits and pieces bowlers bowling at crucial times. 300 is not enough.
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Well Australia have given this to England. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Jog on Maxwell.....
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Bits and pieces bowlers bowling at crucial times. 300 is not enough.
Looks like it might be! Fantastic batting by Morgan and Butler. Australia havent played well tonight. Thats odi.
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This game is as good as over and England's way! Don't see Aussies coming back from 8/236 to win now..
65 from 47 balls.. ;) you never know in cricket..
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Hahaha come on Faulkner!!!!
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England are 15-20 short here.
Bad last 2 overs cost us.
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stokes just needs to not bowl length or long hops. 5 6's off his bowling alone. just not got it in the right areas and with bres going for back to back 4s thats game over. poor bowling at the end.
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Aussie Aussie Aussie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gotta admit ive never been a falkner fan, but hes one seriously ice cool dude. All credit too him.
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Absolutely brilliant effort from Faulkner to bring the Aussies home. Awesome!!
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Never say Never when Faulkner's around!!
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Oh dear. How did england lose this one!???!!
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Isn't cooks interview going to great....haha just can't win at the moment!
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Sounds like a classic case of forgetting how to win
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Faulk me what a run chase!
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This game is as good as over and England's way! Don't see Aussies coming back from 8/236 to win now..
65 from 47 balls.. ;) you never know in cricket..
I spoke too soon :-[
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take nothing away from faulkner but 120-5 244-9 england should be killing games off. bowling wasnt there tonight. stokes was average, rankin had his moments but wasnt great. broad back for the next game i think. hopefully will be a different story
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I don't understand why you would bowl length to Faulkner in the last 3 overs... Doesn't make sense to me at all!
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Very average from Bresnan though
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time to change, Jordan should be taking the last over for me.
Mid/High 80's or high 70' to low 80's which is going to be easier to hit?
Poor lengths from Stokes in penultimate over as well.
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Sounds like a classic case of forgetting how to win
That's exactly what I read into it.
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I think its fair to say england lost the game in the last four overs of their innings. Really needed to get over 300
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Ouch if they weren't demoralised before they sure would be after that! Poor bowling at the death from stokes nd bresnan! Whatever happened to bowling Yorkers! Good length balls in the slot are always going to go!
Some fair hitting jimmy Faulkner take a bow son!
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time to change, Jordan should be taking the last over for me.
Mid/High 80's or high 70' to low 80's which is going to be easier to hit?
Poor lengths from Stokes in penultimate over as well.
Yeah, more a length than pace issue? T20 has turned these guys into destroyers of lenght bowling
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Must be agonising for England...when they were taking wickets they were celebrating like the win was just around the corner....then Faulkner takes it all away from them!!! Haha
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Must be agonising for England...when they were taking wickets they were celebrating like the win was just around the corner....then Faulkner takes it all away from them!!! Haha
Of course they were, it was on toast!
Good lad faulkner.
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Great knock from Faulkner but wouldn't have bowled Stokes at the death. Jordan who was our best bowler only bowled 9. Root bowled well which shows a spinner would have helped. Also, while 300 was a good score we again started too slowly and Root looks completely out of touch.
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Cook got the bowling options horribly wrong - Jordan (or even Rankin) had to be used ahead of Stokes!!
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Whoever of the front line bowlers was chosen, they should be able to use their brains and execute basic skills. Got to be able to bowl tighter lines and lengths than that and hit a yorker length more often than not. What were they doing bowling length and width at the death? Cant believe the players performance this tour.
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should have won!! well played faulkne, england were awful back 10 overs
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Winning is a habit, boy has that shown today!
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Easy to point fingers and criticise but on this occasion hats off completely to James Faulkner. You still have to execute the shots no matter what is thrown down at you and fair play to him.
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It was great to finally see a contest. Game could have gone either way and here's hoping for more of the same for the remaining games.
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Cook got the bowling options horribly wrong - Jordan (or even Rankin) had to be used ahead of Stokes!!
Its not fair to bowl a young lad at the death. However, one thing we know about Stokes is that he learns quickly!
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Faulkner's ability to stay cool and club sixes at will at the end of the innings in chases is simply freakish.
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I am not sure the use of Stokes was the issue, he bowled well.
I am afraid I have lost all confidence in Bresnan - but this one day team has no genuinely experienced bowlers so this result was always possible.
Well batted to Faulkner - he played a blinder. This will really hurt the England team.
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Amazing knock erupted the whole stadium alone champion innings while chasing :)
Cook was also helping him big time , allowed him single on last ball of 2nd last over ........ but none the less amazing match NEUTRAL FAN :)
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I am not sure the use of Stokes was the issue, he bowled well.
I am afraid I have lost all confidence in Bresnan - but this one day team has no genuinely experienced bowlers so this result was always possible.
Well batted to Faulkner - he played a blinder. This will really hurt the England team.
Stokes didnt bowl bad balls as such, but with respect, im not sure 1/74 is bowling well.
Bresnan has indeed past his best, and his B game isn't up to international standard. Happens to everyone, and hes been a hell of a cricketer.
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Its not fair to bowl a young lad at the death. However, one thing we know about Stokes is that he learns quickly!
only way he'll learn!
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Who wants to see the finish again??? ;)
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Stokes didnt bowl bad balls as such, but with respect, im not sure 1/74 is bowling well.
Bresnan has indeed past his best, and his B game isn't up to international standard. Happens to everyone, and hes been a hell of a cricketer.
Didn't England use to select bresnan because he was their good luck charm. Wonder why they continue to select him now.
As I said previously tredwell would have been a better selection given how root and maxwell bowled.
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I think you also have to question Cook's captaincy... he should be bowling his best/hardest to hit bowlers in the batting powerplay to restrict the scoring. It was the batting powerplay that kick started Australia with Bresnan being plundered.
I know Root is only a youngster but surely continuing to bowl around the wicket to Maxwell who was reverse sweeping/pulling him with ease knowing he couldn't be out LBW was probably not the brightest idea.
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Even with Aus 9 down they still looked pretty helpless to stop Faulkner from controlling the game. What a innings!
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That is the second big "closing" innings Faulkner has played... at some stage he will probably move up the order you would think.
He seems to have good technique, can play straight and is reasonably coordinated. He has a first class century so we are often reminded by the commentators!
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To be honest he impresses me more with the bat than he does with the ball!
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Ha ha well yes... he also impresses on twitter with his witty and insightful tweets.
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A bit late but it was so good to be at this game, was such a close game, Bell and Morgan where great to watch and of course so was Faulkner, the last 10 overs I really didn't care who won it was that good of a game. But the roar when those last three 4s came was immense
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You have got to love a close finish... pity 95% of all ODIs aren't that close
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You have got to love a close finish... pity 95% of all ODIs aren't that close
Yep and even as an Aussie I love seeing Cook, Morgan and Bell who is probably my favourite batsman at the moment, in form as they are great to watch, so these last couple of ODIs have been promising. Close finishes in cricket are always good and I think ODIs need more of them if they are going to survive.
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yep, not much of a spectacle when the side batting second cruises to victory in second gear......