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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: iand123 on January 19, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
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This feels like a stupid question but does it make a difference knocking a bat in with a scuff sheet on? Knocking in my Salix and I have a scuff sheet to apply and it got me thinking if it would make any difference if I apply it now
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Do the edges first mate so you get a better fit mate as your be rounding the edges and the scuff will sit better if you do it first mate..
Knock the edges in i mean before applying
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Been working on that today so will keep that in mind. What's the best way to round the edges in everyone's opinion?
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Mallett-Bath-Rolling pin..
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Its Just Cricket have a YouTube video on how they do their knocking in. A good point to start but some on here will say there are much better ways to do it.
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Disco Stu
Nice to see a fellow Fast Show fan...happy memories of Micky Disco!
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In my experience, if you leave the scuff off you get to see how far you've got.
Tony at Warsop told me that 'if the face cracks down the grains you've got a good bat'. With the scuff off you can see this.
I think some call it 'opening up'.
I've just knocked in my new H4L without a scuff and saw this happening. It has many benefits, the one I like most is seeing the work you put on.
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I thought a bat started opening up after 1500 runs or so?
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Its Just Cricket have a YouTube video on how they do their knocking in. A good point to start but some on here will say there are much better ways to do it.
I'd be curious to know what these "much better ways" are. We knock in around 500 bats per year, and all by hand, so like to think we know a bit about what we're doing!
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wow 500 bats knocked in a year. that is over 1 and a half a day !! how many hours per bat ? You must have some big arms now !!
I would knock in first and then apply the scuff sheet.
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wow 500 bats knocked in a year. that is over 1 and a half a day !! how many hours per bat ? You must have some big arms now !!
I would knock in first and then apply the scuff sheet.
Including myself, we have five members of staff, all of whom knock in bats on a daily basis. Rarely is our knocking in backlog fewer than 10 bats, even during the off season, so yes, I haven't needed to go to the gym quite as often as before! ;)
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Including myself, we have five members of staff, all of whom knock in bats on a daily basis. Rarely is our knocking in backlog fewer than 10 bats, even during the off season, so yes, I haven't needed to go to the gym quite as often as before! ;)
Your neighbours must hate you!!!!
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When I bought my warsop venom pro they rolled the edge on the work top this is what I do with my bats you can see that it gives a nice round edge then knock in with out scuff sheet and when the grains open up apply the scuff sheet
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In my experience, if you leave the scuff off you get to see how far you've got.
Tony at Warsop told me that 'if the face cracks down the grains you've got a good bat'. With the scuff off you can see this.
I think some call it 'opening up'.
I've just knocked in my new H4L without a scuff and saw this happening. It has many benefits, the one I like most is seeing the work you put on.
If I was knocking in a new bat and it started cracking I'd be ringing up straight away for a replacement
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If I was knocking in a new bat and it started cracking I'd be ringing up straight away for a replacement
If there are tiny cracks running along the grains that's a good sign, No?
Across is bad, Yes, but down and along is a good sign.
That's what I've always been told.
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If there are tiny cracks running along the grains that's a good sign, No?
Across is bad, Yes, but down and along is a good sign.
That's what I've always been told.
yes, this is correct...
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Yes, cracks along the grain is the correct definition of 'opening up' - many use that term incorrectly.
To see a bat begin to do this is a pleasing sight for me. I know it is going to perform at it's peak.
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wow 500 bats knocked in a year. that is over 1 and a half a day !! how many hours per bat ? You must have some big arms now !!
I would knock in first and then apply the scuff sheet.
The first image in my head after reading this post was Paul looking like Popeye!! :D :D :D
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Personally I think knocking in is overrated. If a bat is pressed correctly ie "pressed to perfection" as many claim then why further press the face of the bat with hours of knocking in ?
Just round and knock in the edges and toe, stick a scuff sheet on and away you go.
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Personally I think knocking in is overrated. If a bat is pressed correctly ie "pressed to perfection" as many claim then why further press the face of the bat with hours of knocking in ?
Just round and knock in the edges and toe, stick a scuff sheet on and away you go.
I agree to an extent, but it does depend on the bat. I know this is exactly what Julian Millichamp recommends for his Screaming Cats, but other bats can be very different for me. Plus, I think a lot of it is peace of mind for the customer. A knocked in bat provides a lot of reassurance and removes the element of doubt.
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But with hours of knocking in you are taking away the bats performance. Certainly out bats I would recommend toe and edges, scuff and go. They are pressed for performance so you don't need to mess with the middle to much b
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Personally I think knocking in is overrated. If a bat is pressed correctly ie "pressed to perfection" as many claim then why further press the face of the bat with hours of knocking in ?
Just round and knock in the edges and toe, stick a scuff sheet on and away you go.
I'm in this camp, mainly because I'm too lazy to do a full job, but also because when I've been present when the bat has been made, batmakers have told me it only needs the edges and toe knocking in...
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Right. I was in the boat of "edges and toe" so when I bought a Malik laminate from asad. I spent a few hours on the edge and toe. Few bowling machines them a net.
Got one short and wide which I tried to hit throughout he cover are aerial. It made a cracking noise. Looked down and where I'd hit the ball it had dented the bat. Indent was about 3mm deep with 2 cracks either side.
Why did this happen if edges an toe only needed(I want more of an answer than asain made)
I've since knocked it in more so the indent in less but you can still see the. Cracks and slight indent. Although the pic is poor
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/20140120_230224_zps61fbff7b.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/20140120_230224_zps61fbff7b.jpg.html)
It's not easy to take pictures of bat damage on a phone.lol
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Clearly not pressed properly ;)
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Malik's are usually soft as baby poo mate, I would have scuffed it up as a minimum.
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If I'm scuffing a bat up, I'll do the edges and bottom 2-3 inches as a minimum. Probably give the face about half hour and I like to do the bit between the scuff sheet and stickers just for added piece of mind against the odd throat ball! Once I've knocked in, then I'll put the scuff sheet on. I'll also whack a bit of edge tape on my own bats to frame the scuff sheet, but that's just an OCD thing!