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Title: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: morgzy10 on January 27, 2014, 10:53:01 PM
Hi guys, I am using a heavier bat this season 2"12. Instead of my usual 2"8/2"9     one due to the amount of bats I break from how I play and two in an attempt to sort out my timing and keep the ball on the deck.

What's the best way to adjust to a heavier bat?

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Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: smilley792 on January 27, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
use a heavier bat


borrow a 2.15 bat and Do a few weeks training with it. then using your 2.12 will seem like your back to a light bat.
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: Jason_Yuan on January 27, 2014, 11:15:55 PM
I personally will go gym as well as use a heavier bat like what smiley said.
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: TangoWhiskey on January 28, 2014, 10:50:31 AM
I am in the exactly the same boat. Persevering in the nets with it. When I first netted with mine I was close to sending it straight back to Newbery to get a couple of ounces taken out of it. Second week it was slightly better but I still thought it was too heavy for me. Leading up to my third net, I was sorting out my kit bag and decided to do some cover drive reps with my gloves on and the bat in my hand and did that a couple of times a day whilst watching the tv for about 3 days before the net. Got to the nets and whilst its still feeling heavy, I now have much more control of it and the more power I could feel with the greater weight has encouraged me to keep going with it. I like to hit the ball hard anyway so I'm sure I'm going to have some fun this season.
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: ManHOOS on January 28, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
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Some pro players use this theory, Misbah uses the heaviest bat in Pak team ...
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: smilley792 on January 28, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
When dhoni switches to his beast for the last few overs hit. He swings with both bats a few times, before taking the big one in, so it lessens the jump.


Obviously he's used to practicing with heavy bats, so not such a big jump.

But if your shadow batting in the house, you can use two bats,
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: Chad on January 28, 2014, 11:56:01 AM
Work on your fitness, as the better your fitness, the longer you can bat and concentrate. Obviously, doing some reps and working on your biceps and forearms will help you get stronger, but if you're not physically at your best, then you will tire easier when using a heavier bat, and your timing will go off. I jumped from a 2.10 to a 2.13 and a half when I was at a decent fitness level, and was fine with it. But as I slacked on my fitness, I noticed that I was not quite as comfortable with that weight as at first, so now I'm only using up to 2.12 and a half. The way I see it is that most people could use a heavier bat around 2.12, but not everyone can sustain it over a long period of time. Sometimes, you gotta just bear through with it, and if you are 100% sure you want to start playing with a heavier bat, then don't swap to a lighter one at all during net sessions. It's the only way to get used to using it over a longer period of time!
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 28, 2014, 11:57:46 AM
Hi guys, I am using a heavier bat this season 2"12. Instead of my usual 2"8/2"9     one due to the amount of bats I break from how I play and two in an attempt to sort out my timing and keep the ball on the deck.

What's the best way to adjust to a heavier bat?

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How do you imagine using a heavier bat will sort out your timing?
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: fasteddie on January 28, 2014, 12:06:32 PM
Hit the gym. Build endurance and strength.

You can probably do all you need with 'own body weight' exercises.

Dips and over hand chin ups. If you're gym has a 'weight assisted' machine for those exercises, you're in the game. They are immense for cricket. 
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on January 28, 2014, 12:28:36 PM
How do you imagine using a heavier bat will sort out your timing?

I was thinking the same thing? Why not work on some coaching to time the ball better with the exiting weight set up you have probably used all your career? If your bats break due the way you play then change that as the heavier bat is just as likely too break also
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: cleanbowled on January 28, 2014, 01:02:38 PM
I am not sure a heavier bat will sort out timing issues, it may alleviate bat breakage to some extent though I am not sure a 2.12 will make a huge difference in that regard versus a 2.9 either. 
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: morgzy10 on January 28, 2014, 01:10:30 PM
Basically to help timing, heavier bat, less likley to play the ball too early
my train of thought (might be wrong) 
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: cleanbowled on January 28, 2014, 01:18:11 PM
I agree, it might stop you playing too early - that would make sense to me as well. But it might create a bunch of other timing issues. For example you might now get the timing right on drives - because you were coming down too early. But it might cause you to start playing late on the horizontal bats shots eg the hook and the pull.

Of course, if you develop your strength as well in the meantime, I'd say go for it - certainly my thoughts are to use as heavy a bat as you can as long as you can still play all your shots properly.
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: cesare_in on January 28, 2014, 01:42:23 PM
I have started playing with a heavier bat now and my capabilities to middle the ball has come down drastically  :(
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: morgzy10 on January 28, 2014, 01:54:44 PM
im not a weak bloke by any means,  im a rugby player by trade, but have always used light bats for quick bat speed.  now im trying to play cricket mroe sensibly at a higher standard i thought it was time to become a cricketer rather than a bloke who can play cricket
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: cleanbowled on January 28, 2014, 02:16:24 PM
Like a lot of things it is a matter of trial and error, you might find you get on much better with a heavier bat, and of course it could be much worse as well. If you were going to experiment by yourself, maybe better to try with a lower grade bat - that way if it does not work out, you haven't forked out too much over the experiment.
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: fasteddie on January 28, 2014, 02:24:23 PM
im not a weak bloke by any means,  im a rugby player by trade, but have always used light bats for quick bat speed.  now im trying to play cricket mroe sensibly at a higher standard i thought it was time to become a cricketer rather than a bloke who can play cricket

Coaching is possibly a good place to start. A good batting coach will be able to recommend a set-up that works for your style and strengths ect ect.

I went from 2lb 8 to 3lb last season and it trashed my game. I'm now back closer to my original weight after some well judged words from an ex-pro now coach.



Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: cleanbowled on January 28, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
2.8 to 3lb is a very big jump, the original poster was only going as far as 2.12, so I'd say it might work out well.
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: mo_town on January 28, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
Imo, the only aspect of your game that you really struggle with when going for heavier bats are the cuts and pulls...you tend to get a hang of the drive timing after some practice, its the horizontal bat shot of medium pacers which becomes as challenge..
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: ajmw89 on January 28, 2014, 03:33:25 PM
Imo, the only aspect of your game that you really struggle with when going for heavier bats are the cuts and pulls...you tend to get a hang of the drive timing after some practice, its the horizontal bat shot of medium pacers which becomes as challenge..

That's when being able to read people comes into play.  With a heavier bat, it helpd to try and have a big backlift, so your hands are always higher up to counter anything short a bit easier.  YOu can also tell with a some bowlers what the next ball is going to be, so you can prepare for it
Title: Re: How to adjust to a heavier bat
Post by: mike1989 on January 28, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
Hi guys, I am using a heavier bat this season 2"12. Instead of my usual 2"8/2"9     one due to the amount of bats I break from how I play and two in an attempt to sort out my timing and keep the ball on the deck.

What's the best way to adjust to a heavier bat?

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Practice, lots. Use the bat in nets, and also at home shadow batting, or even before you net. The more you use the bat, the more you should get used to the weight.

However, going to a heavier bat doesn't guarantee that it will improve your timing or your game. As some have mentioned, going to a heavier bat might improve certain shots (eg. drives), but it might hurt another part of your game (eg. fine cuts). I have a 2lb 8oz bat, and one that is 2lb 12 (maybe a little heavier). I find that my all round game is better with the 2lb 8 oz bat, because I can play all the shots (drives, fine cuts, pull, hook etc). But when I go to the heavier bat, even though I've practised with it, there are certain shots that I don't time as well due to the difference in weight (mainly pull and hook). Granted I can hit bigger with the heavier bat, but I think that the gains I get from a heavier bat are not enough. For me, my all round game is better suited to the lighter bat and it helps me make more runs.

Coming back to you. I would say practice with the heavier bat and stick with it. Also see about getting some coaching at your club.