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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: tim2000s on February 04, 2014, 09:42:39 AM

Title: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: tim2000s on February 04, 2014, 09:42:39 AM
Reading a comment in the thread about CA Bats, and seeing the image below, I find it insteresting that the bat on the right is considered to have "almost no concaving". I'd consider it to be reasonably concaved. The bat on the left it much more concaved.

A Special CA Plus 15000 Limited Edition Cricket Bat... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDeuSr_8g5o#ws)

This is extremely concaved (although a little blurred):

(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/Its%20just%20cricket/P1040467.jpg)

And this is not concaved:

(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/stuff02.jpg)

How do you view it? I would say that the "hardly concaved" CA is still pretty concaved...
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: smilley792 on February 04, 2014, 09:48:11 AM
The ca is concaved, but not to the extremes of most ca bats, and to say the weights of the. Two bats in the video is similar, you can see the point of Paul's video.


The ca to me is slightly concaved,


The excel you have showed is rounded/domed, to me it is the opposite of concaved, gone the other way.
 If you was to draw a line from edge to spine, thee cel would be above it.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: Number4 on February 04, 2014, 09:49:16 AM
The bat on the left is extreme concaving and the one on the right to me still looks like a fair amount of concaving
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: Number4 on February 04, 2014, 09:54:29 AM
Zero concaving:

http://184.154.5.91/~customb3/cbforum/index.php?topic=19424.0 (http://184.154.5.91/~customb3/cbforum/index.php?topic=19424.0)
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on February 04, 2014, 10:02:13 AM
After watching the video I agree with Paul, no concaving. Such a prominent spine gives the impression there is concaving.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: smokem on February 04, 2014, 10:06:36 AM
I judged it from the "meat" of the bat and thought that the one on the right had what I would consider to be minimal concaving (2mm or less). So that's why I said almost no concaving.

The one of the left is very concaved (8mm +).
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: smilley792 on February 04, 2014, 10:07:45 AM
No.4s bradman is a beaut!


Convex was the word I was looking for, as paul says int his video.

Definately no concaving on these co vexed bats.

http://youtu.be/5aAxytR4b7g (http://youtu.be/5aAxytR4b7g)
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: smokem on February 04, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
No.4s bradman is a beaut!


Convex was the word I was looking for, as paul says int his video.

Definately no concaving on these co vexed bats.


I wouldn't call the Powerspot convexed. The spine has been slightly rounded to give that impression. But it is not a true convex like the Tour.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: tim2000s on February 04, 2014, 10:14:18 AM
I'm with Number 4 on this one...
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: Ams4287 on February 04, 2014, 10:22:04 AM
Zero concaving:

[url]http://184.154.5.91/~customb3/cbforum/index.php?topic=19424.0[/url] ([url]http://184.154.5.91/~customb3/cbforum/index.php?topic=19424.0[/url])


Just made a post on your old thread mate with a profile query could you take a look - cheers!
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: smilley792 on February 04, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
I wouldn't call the Powerspot convexed. The spine has been slightly rounded to give that impression. But it is not a true convex like the Tour.

To me it is, the tour is one convex shape, the powerspot, is twoconvex shapes, coming to a slight point in the middle.

Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: GarrettJ on February 04, 2014, 10:31:49 AM
a lot of concaving for me is where the back of the bat goes down from the edge and up to the spine, like the blurred picture. A bat that goes up directly from the edge or across and then up to the spine but is scooped out is slightly concaved.

best bat i had was concaved from the edge upwards, dont know why people are so against it. Gives a lot of meat behind the hitting zone.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: MD2812 on February 04, 2014, 10:53:18 AM
a lot of concaving for me is where the back of the bat goes down from the edge and up to the spine, like the blurred picture. A bat that goes up directly from the edge or across and then up to the spine but is scooped out is slightly concaved.

best bat i had was concaved from the edge upwards, dont know why people are so against it. Gives a lot of meat behind the hitting zone.

The bat is my hitting zone sometimes! Like a bit of wood for the shots I don't middle. You still get wood in the hitting zone with a non concaved bat, but it spreads the middle out further towards the edges surely?
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: smilley792 on February 04, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
The bat is my hitting zone sometimes! Like a bit of wood for the shots I don't middle. You still get wood in the hitting zone with a non concaved bat, but it spreads the middle out further towards the edges surely?

Bit isn't that the idea of big edges? That if you hit the ball well off centre, the size of the edge means it'll still go, as there still meat behind it?


I've got concaved, non concaved and convexed bats, to be honest I've never had issue with any of them feeling as if the sweet spot isn't wide enough.

I just have issues with my timing.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: Buzz on February 04, 2014, 11:04:07 AM
Concaving is for wimps!! (thanks to Canners for this pic!)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/image_zps11c5a5c1.jpg) (http://s895.photobucket.com/user/buzzrockport/media/image_zps11c5a5c1.jpg.html)

this bat has a load of concaving:
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/Bats/utf-8BSU1BRzEwNzIuanBn.jpg) (http://s895.photobucket.com/user/buzzrockport/media/Bats/utf-8BSU1BRzEwNzIuanBn.jpg.html)

Personally I think the KG above is a little too much by the CA on the right in the top pic looks a great shape.

At the end of the day, this goes back to the confidence the bat gives you...

the Octane is supposed to have concaving, but hardly an offensive amount:
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/utf-8BSU1BRzAzMTUuanBn_zps11ef9393.jpg) (http://s895.photobucket.com/user/buzzrockport/media/utf-8BSU1BRzAzMTUuanBn_zps11ef9393.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: i12breakfree on February 04, 2014, 11:19:05 AM
The worst one was GM Luna with extreme concaving or is scooping the word here ? It had a great pickup but the middle was really narrow.
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/GMLuna_zps94e52534.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/GMLuna_zps94e52534.jpg.html)

Personally i like the GN powerspot this year and may have that as my match bat.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: Number4 on February 04, 2014, 11:29:51 AM
I'd call this scooping on the Luna
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: GarrettJ on February 04, 2014, 11:38:51 AM
this is seriously concaved

(http://i.imgur.com/eK8zl32l.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/su4w5S0l.jpg)

Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: uknsaunders on February 04, 2014, 11:43:50 AM
Concaving - hold a ruler on the edge of the bat and the spine. If you can see daylight between the ruler and the side spine then it's concaved. If the ruler can't sit on the spine because the side spine is pushing it away then it's convex.

I've seen a few postings about bats where the owner has described it as none or minimal concaving when you can quite clearly see concaving. Wish I had an example to hand! I don't mind a bit of concaving as a compromise for having bigger edges as long as it doesn't get silly:-

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_5CrKBUBCMQ/TzJjGd6ap5I/AAAAAAAAErM/B1E9mvH73yk/w520-h367-no/DSC_0957-1.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XjZFZIM787g/Utp-hUHzCzI/AAAAAAAAZOM/jFsLloa5mdc/w1020-h577-no/IMAG0003.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VbvYbYCgotw/Uno6J04qE8I/AAAAAAAAMuQ/kp8Ljg5n0mI/w769-h577-no/20131106_124604.jpg)

That said the best bat I've owned had no concaving (this isn't the exact one but a better grade in this shape):-

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Xu0xbOShXRg/TVMk2plV4QI/AAAAAAAAGmg/Mi4ikUGDxjg/w959-h668-no/DSC_0382.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_RRiloQ_QZs/TVMk4yFh5UI/AAAAAAAAGmc/EnEerSHeBJ8/w1277-h222-no/DSC_0379.jpg)
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: MD2812 on February 04, 2014, 11:50:20 AM
this is seriously concaved

([url]http://i.imgur.com/eK8zl32l.png[/url])

([url]http://i.imgur.com/su4w5S0l.jpg[/url])


Don't like the look of that bat at all.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: smilley792 on February 04, 2014, 11:52:42 AM
I personally like concaving, or don't mind it atleast.


But IMO the concaving should never be taken below the edge size, that's just too far.
Title: Re: How much concaving is a lot?
Post by: Alvaro on February 04, 2014, 01:32:09 PM
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd117/fake_street_spirit/17d245f4ee7a16c966c18269268a1e0f_zps54073a5e.jpg) (http://s224.photobucket.com/user/fake_street_spirit/media/17d245f4ee7a16c966c18269268a1e0f_zps54073a5e.jpg.html)

When I originally got this bat I was disappointed by the amount of concaving, but by lord does it ping all over.
Brilliantly pressed though.