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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: jchokshi on February 10, 2014, 11:38:54 PM
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If I may, I would like to ask a *stupid* question regrading the Screaming cat profession bat series 1 that I just recently received from Julian. I've been trying it out in nets for some time now.
What I've observed is that compared to my old bat (GN Legend 2k13), this new bat appears to be resonating more thus by creating a bit more vibration up through the bat handle that I feel in my hands while playing shots. Both the bats have same grip.
I thought I should ask here if this is because the bat would need a bit more playing-in or I should have 2nd grip or due to lack of any bow in the bat, or something else that I'm doing wrong. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Jay
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Dont worry about the handle pal, get some pics up. We dont get to see many Scats about :)
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Just received a response from Julian below,
Bat handles generally break in over a season, they are quite stiff to start with and loosen up and become more flexible over time. I would suggest to keep using it, and the handle should become flexible with use.
Kind Regards
Julian
This is very interesting and a new experience for me as I remembered that I didn't have to go through such process for GN-Legend bat. Anyways, I guess Julian knows better!! :)
BTW, the same bat can be seen in below video review done by Paul,
Screaming Cat Professional Custom Edition Cricket Bat Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ry09IuuI80#ws)
Thanks,
Jay
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Scats have two rubbers in the handle rather than the usual 3 to make them stiffer and get more power through the blade. Also a general rule to see if it's a legit scat :)
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I agree.
My Puma also has two rubbers and with my first time using it even i felt vibration.
Now it's fine i don't feel it anymore.
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Not sure about the UK Legends but the Aussie versions have a 16 piece handle which reduces vibration right from the start. I've had a few Scats and all of them have stiff handles to start with. I suggest laying another bat on the floor and sitting the end of your Scat handle over it. Stand on the Scat gradually and this will quicken the process up.. Once done, you will love the feeling of the Scat!
Cheers!
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around 4mns 40- that is graping/staining, not a knot!!
Incredible looking bat though
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Not sure about the UK Legends but the Aussie versions have a 16 piece handle which reduces vibration right from the start. I've had a few Scats and all of them have stiff handles to start with. I suggest laying another bat on the floor and sitting the end of your Scat handle over it. Stand on the Scat gradually and this will quicken the process up.. Once done, you will love the feeling of the Scat!
Cheers!
That sounds a recipe for disaster.
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Not sure about the UK Legends but the Aussie versions have a 16 piece handle which reduces vibration right from the start. I've had a few Scats and all of them have stiff handles to start with. I suggest laying another bat on the floor and sitting the end of your Scat handle over it. Stand on the Scat gradually and this will quicken the process up.. Once done, you will love the feeling of the Scat!
Cheers!
Not sure i'd fancy standing on the handle of a brand new Scat. Rather just play it in a bit longer!
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That sounds a recipe for disaster.
I said to stand on it, not jump and down on the bl##dy thing! ;)
If you had ever owned a Scat, you would realize just how thick the handles are, especially down towards the blade and they don't "break in" like most other bats...
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I said to stand on it, not jump and down on the bl##dy thing! ;)
If you had ever owned a Scat, you would realize just how thick the handles are, especially down towards the blade and they don't "break in" like most other bats...
Mark, since you owned a few SCs you could afford to take a risk like that, I can never think of doing that to the SC I bought from you.
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Mark, since you owned a few SCs you could afford to take a risk like that, I can never think of doing that to the SC I bought from you.
i'm no rocket surgeon, but I reckon the force of a ball weighing 156gms, traveling at 125kmh, that strikes a bat traveling in the opposite direction at 100kmh (I'm not quite sure how fast a bat is swung at) will result in a relatively similar amount of force to someone carefully applying force in the manner I have described.... Any engineers on here?
I'm not advocating bat abuse here: just giving a suggestion to someone that has asked about a stiff handle. I believe Ian Chappell said he did something similar with his bats to speed up the process of getting some "whip" into his handle. Just because I suggest something different, doesn't mean it wrong. If you don't like the idea, I don't have a gun to your head, Amrit! :D
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Using f=ma, a cricket ball is likely to apply approximately six newtons of force compared to an 80kg human applying approximately 784...
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At our first forum event Matt, a bat maker at Hunts placed then handle of Simmys bat on a solid raised area in the shop and then stood on it to demonstrate the flex. He invited Simmy to do the same, Sim declined!
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At our first forum event Matt, a bat maker at Hunts placed then handle of Simmys bat on a solid raised area in the shop and then stood on it to demonstrate the flex. He invited Simmy to do the same, Sim declined!
:D :D
I must say I am learning quite a bit since I joined this forum.
Standind on the handle must rate amongst one of my top learnings :)
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Not sure about the UK Legends but the Aussie versions have a 16 piece handle which reduces vibration right from the start. I've had a few Scats and all of them have stiff handles to start with. I suggest laying another bat on the floor and sitting the end of your Scat handle over it. Stand on the Scat gradually and this will quicken the process up.. Once done, you will love the feeling of the Scat!
Cheers!
Sorry, I couldn't completely understand it, I apologize. Are you saying I should lie down the bat with it's face facing the floor, and then stand on the handle or the bat itself? I'm just trying to be careful since I've not done this before.
Thanks,
Jay
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Sorry, I couldn't completely understand it, I apologize. Are you saying I should lie down the bat with it's face facing the floor, and then stand on the handle or the bat itself? I'm just trying to be careful since I've not done this before.
Thanks,
Jay
thats ok mate. Lie a bat face down on the floor, then lay the bat with the stiff handle at right angles to it, face down so that the very ends of the handles lay across each other. You can start and push down on the middle of the bat: as the handle is the area with the most flex in it, it will start the process of breaking the handle in. You only need to do it a couple of times to really feel a difference. I have stood on a couple of my bats when the handles have been really stiff but you can just push down on it. I do it as part of my knocking in of a bat.
I hope I have explained this a bit clearer this time. I was a bit rushed last time and didn't do a very good job..
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I wouldn't risk it bud, just contact Julian and ask first. I know some bat makers might do this to break in the handle for customers, but they know what they're doing. If you don't know what you're doing, then don't do it. Not worth risking the £400+ you spent on the beauty...
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My christ I would not risk doing that with a 400 quid bat. Especially not without having spoke to a batmaker or professional.
Play the bat in, the handle will adjust accordingly. Enjoy your SCAT.
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absolute madness this thread .......... standing on handles :o
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On a SCAT especially!!! :o :( ???
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Just had a net tonight, mates collected his new series 2, told him about this thread - he was horrified ....,
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Plenty of players have done it, Ian Chappell swore by it. It just loosens the handle up a little, obviously don't go nuts though.
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just score a few centuries mate - that oughta do it.
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Just received a response from Julian below,
This is very interesting and a new experience for me as I remembered that I didn't have to go through such process for GN-Legend bat. Anyways, I guess Julian knows better!! :)
BTW, the same bat can be seen in below video review done by Paul,
Screaming Cat Professional Custom Edition Cricket Bat Review ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ry09IuuI80#ws[/url])
Thanks,
Jay
says "no concaving", but seems to be a very gentle, 1mm or so taken out?
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thats ok mate. Lie a bat face down on the floor, then lay the bat with the stiff handle at right angles to it, face down so that the very ends of the handles lay across each other. You can start and push down on the middle of the bat: as the handle is the area with the most flex in it, it will start the process of breaking the handle in. You only need to do it a couple of times to really feel a difference. I have stood on a couple of my bats when the handles have been really stiff but you can just push down on it. I do it as part of my knocking in of a bat.
I hope I have explained this a bit clearer this time. I was a bit rushed last time and didn't do a very good job..
Just wanted to follow up on this. I performed the advise for a couple of hours yesterday, and boy it worked or what. I felt almost no vibration. It certainly did help. Thank you very much. I'm sure, as others have mentioned in this thread, the more playing-in would have also helped, but I just wanted to give you the due credits for your suggestion. Thank you again.
P.S.: It was also my first half-century with the SCAT today. Thank you.
Thanks,
Jay
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Gr8 to hear it worked, looks like I need to try Mark's advice :D
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Just wanted to follow up on this. I performed the advise for a couple of hours yesterday, and boy it worked or what. I felt almost no vibration. It certainly did help. Thank you very much. I'm sure, as others have mentioned in this thread, the more playing-in would have also helped, but I just wanted to give you the due credits for your suggestion. Thank you again.
P.S.: It was also my first half-century with the SCAT today. Thank you.
Thanks,
Jay
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Love All, Serve All
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Hi Jay, I'm really glad to hear that you have the same result with that technique that I have had over the years! It sounds a bit weird but like most things, if done sensibly won't hurt anything. I really appreciate the update, thanks mate!