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Title: Current world test XI
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 17, 2014, 10:30:01 PM
Following a lovely gentlemans rant on anothe tread, would be interested to see what people think.
Based on current form, an not selectin any recently retired players, who would you have in a world test XI??
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 17, 2014, 10:31:53 PM
Pujara
Amla
Sangakkara
Kohli
Clarke
Mccullum
Ab
Johnson
Harris
Broad
Steyn
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Gerry SA on February 17, 2014, 10:34:41 PM
Graeme Smith
Cheteshwar Pujara
Hashim Amla
Kumar Sangakkara
Michael Clarke(c)
Ross Taylor
AB de Villiers(w/k)
Mitchell Johnson
Ryan Harris
Dale Steyn
Saeed Ajmal
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 17, 2014, 10:41:01 PM
Took am a lot of thinking about but I'd go for

In a sort of batting order:

D. Warner
C. Gayle
Pujara
AB De Villiers (wk)
S. Smith
B. McCullum (c)
B. Stokes
M. Johnson
D. Steyn
R. Harris
S. Ajmal
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: LEACHY48 on February 17, 2014, 10:44:17 PM
Pujara
Cook
Amla
de villiers
Clarke
sangakkara
Johnson
Ashwin
Broad
steyn
Siddle
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: MJB3 on February 17, 2014, 10:47:08 PM
Warner
Pujara
Amla
Sangakarra
Kohli
ABDV (WK)
Taylor/McCullum
Johnson
Harris
Steyn
Ajmal
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: smilley792 on February 17, 2014, 10:47:19 PM
Warner
Sangakarra
Williamson
Kohli
De villiers
Mcullum
Smith(steve)
Johnston
Harris
Broad
Steyn
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: joeljonno on February 17, 2014, 10:47:52 PM
I'd take the top 4 ranked bowlers and the top 6 ranked batsmen.

Then add a keeper/all rounder/batsman in the last spot, depending on what's needed.
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: smilley792 on February 18, 2014, 10:24:36 AM
Just noticed the edit to cams first post in here,


Why is it that Gerry seems to antagonise the entire forum, yet the mods are on his side, and editing any posts that suggest he's anything other than a nice bloke?

Your doing it the wrong way! Look after the members that just want a conversation, not the ones after an argument.
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Number4 on February 18, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
Just noticed the edit to cams first post in here,


Why is it that Gerry seems to antagonise the entire forum, yet the mods are on his side, and editing any posts that suggest he's anything other than a nice bloke?

Your doing it the wrong way! Look after the members that just want a conversation, not the ones after an argument.

To be honest Smilley all I see is Gerry giving his opinion which others don't seem to agree with yet it is HIS opinion... What I don't see is Gerry name calling like others are doing.

I don't know Gerry and am not biased towards him one way or the other I am telling it as I see it.

Everyone is allowed their opinion and not everyone has to agree.

I think Mcullum is a good player. I don't agree with Gerry. I don't see him as antagonising people... I see him as disagreeing
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: plumb111 on February 18, 2014, 10:35:34 AM
Pujara
Warner
Amla
Kohli
De Villiers
Mccullum
S Broad
M Johnson
R Harris
D Steyn
S Ajmal
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: 13th Man on February 18, 2014, 10:39:35 AM
Warner
Smith
Sangakkara
Kohli
Clarke
Mccullum
Ab
Johnson
Harris
Broad
Steyn
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Cedrictoad on February 18, 2014, 10:54:47 AM
D. Warner
A. Cook
R. Taylor
AB De Villiers (wk)
M. Clarke (c)
B. McCullum
S. Watson
M. Johnson
D. Steyn
R. Harris
S. Ajmal
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: alexhilly1492 on February 18, 2014, 10:58:11 AM
warner, dhawan, sanga, kohli, clarke, stokes, McCullum, johnson, ashwin, harris, steyn,
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: 13th Man on February 18, 2014, 11:02:01 AM
Warner
Rogers
Marsh
Doolan
Clarke
Haddin
Johnson
Smith
Lion
Siddle
Harris

Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Cedrictoad on February 18, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
Warner
Rogers
Marsh
Doolan
Clarke
Haddin
Johnson
Smith
Lion
Siddle
Harris

ha ha... no Watto?
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Manormanic on February 18, 2014, 04:11:19 PM
ha ha... no Watto?

Smith batting below Johnson?  Some clubbie offspinner called Lion replacing the "world class" Nathan Lyon?

 ;)
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 18, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Number4, next time you edit my post please spell it all correctly, don't want me to look more thick than I actually  am now do we!  ;)
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: joeljonno on February 18, 2014, 05:42:33 PM
To be honest Smilley all I see is Gerry giving his opinion which others don't seem to agree with yet it is HIS opinion... What I don't see is Gerry name calling like others are doing.

I don't know Gerry and am not biased towards him one way or the other I am telling it as I see it.

Everyone is allowed their opinion and not everyone has to agree.

I think Mcullum is a good player. I don't agree with Gerry. I don't see him as antagonising people... I see him as disagreeing

He puts his "opinions" over as facts.

He is subtle in his antagonistic way, in my opinion.

He picks points that he knows will cause debate (or argument) and posts it knowing he will get a response (or a bite).

To be honest, this board would be very dull if he wasn't here.

People need to get a bit of perspective in all this.
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: jamielsn15 on February 18, 2014, 06:03:40 PM
Right, stuck on a train back from London, here goes.

Smith
Warner
Sangakkara
Clarke
De Villiers wk
McCullum
Stokes
Johnson
Harris
Steyn
Ajmal

12th men misbah, kohli
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: horseman on February 19, 2014, 09:13:03 AM
Warner
pujara
sangakara
kohli
clarke
Mccullum
devilliers
johnson
harris
shami
lyon
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Jason_Yuan on February 19, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
Cook
Warner
Sangakarra
Kohli
Clarke
Ab de villiers
Mccullum
Johnson
Harris
Broad
Steyn
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: 13th Man on February 19, 2014, 09:31:37 AM
Smith batting below Johnson?  Some clubbie offspinner called Lion replacing the "world class" Nathan Lyon?

 ;)
Apologies  for my spelling or specific batting order, still pissed from celebrating our recent success here in Australia!  :D :D
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: TangoWhiskey on February 19, 2014, 09:32:56 AM
Cook
Warner
Sangakarra
Kohli
Clarke
Ab de villiers
Mccullum
Johnson
Harris
Broad
Steyn

Cook on current form?
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Kieron_BT on February 19, 2014, 09:42:45 AM
Warner
pujara
sangakara
kohli
clarke
Mccullum
devilliers
johnson
harris
shami
lyon

Infront of Steyn/Phillander/Broad/Anderson/Southee/Boult/Wagner? Thats a big call!

Would probably even pick Mohammed Irfan infront of Shami, he can and has cuased problems against good batsman!
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Number4 on February 19, 2014, 09:52:54 AM
Number4, next time you edit my post please spell it all correctly, don't want me to look more thick than I actually  am now do we!  ;)

I thought I was making you look smarter ;) :D
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 19, 2014, 02:00:10 PM
I thought I was making you look smarter ;) :D
That's not too difficult!  :D
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: mussaduq on February 20, 2014, 03:47:11 PM
Amla
Watson
Sanga
Clarke
Misbah
Ab de Villiers
B.Mccullum
Haddin
Jhonson
Steyn
Ajmal
Irfan
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Manormanic on February 20, 2014, 07:13:12 PM
After three days of considering this, I am still struggling - its usually pretty easy to get nine names on the sheet and then allow personal preference to fill in the other couple, but this year I can only really think of De Villiers, Ajmal, Steyn and Johnson who are locked on certainties on recent form - even Amla, who is the nearest to a fifth, is not having a great time of it.  That least vacancies for two openers, two in the middle order and a seamer, plus one either all rounder or second spinner...

Eek.

For what its worth, I would first went for:

Cook
Amla
Sangakkara
Clarke
De Villiers
McCullum
Philander
Johnson
Steyn
Herath
Ajmal

Before deciding that Cook barely deserved a place and that Herath was not much more of a threat than Lyon, which lead me to the more controversial:

Watson
Amla
Sangakkara
Clarke
De Villiers
McCullum
Du Plessis
Johnson
Philander
Steyn
Ajmal

Obviously Watto doesn't merit his spot per se but he has experience as an opener and I hate just playing four bowlers.

The two hardest done to guys here are Harris and Broad, who could both run Philander close.
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: cricketbadger on February 22, 2014, 02:23:49 PM
Some very strange decisions made here. Baring in mind the team is supposed to be made up from players in the best form lately/currently.
Amla and Smith aren't having the best of times, Watson as well just to name a few

I couldn't put 11 players in my own team as too many people to consider. I'd end up with 15 at least
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 22, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Some very strange decisions made here. Baring in mind the team is supposed to be made up from players in the best form lately/currently.
Amla and Smith aren't having the best of times, Watson as well just to name a few

I couldn't put 11 players in my own team as too many people to consider. I'd end up with 15 at least
Share your 15 man squad then??
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Cedrictoad on February 22, 2014, 03:31:27 PM
After three days of considering this, I am still struggling - its usually pretty easy to get nine names on the sheet and then allow personal preference to fill in the other couple, but this year I can only really think of De Villiers, Ajmal, Steyn and Johnson who are locked on certainties on recent form - even Amla, who is the nearest to a fifth, is not having a great time of it.  That least vacancies for two openers, two in the middle order and a seamer, plus one either all rounder or second spinner...

Eek.

For what its worth, I would first went for:

Cook
Amla
Sangakkara
Clarke
De Villiers
McCullum
Philander
Johnson
Steyn
Herath
Ajmal

Before deciding that Cook barely deserved a place and that Herath was not much more of a threat than Lyon, which lead me to the more controversial:

Watson
Amla
Sangakkara
Clarke
De Villiers
McCullum
Du Plessis
Johnson
Philander
Steyn
Ajmal

Obviously Watto doesn't merit his spot per se but he has experience as an opener and I hate just playing four bowlers.

The two hardest done to guys here are Harris and Broad, who could both run Philander close.

There are a lot of keepers in that 11 (or former keepers anyway)!  For the record who would be behind the stumps?
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Manormanic on February 22, 2014, 05:09:44 PM
There are a lot of keepers in that 11 (or former keepers anyway)!  For the record who would be behind the stumps?

there are a few yes.  I was envisaging De Villiers doing the job given that he is the only one who seems to embrace the idea!
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: FattusCattus on February 22, 2014, 06:50:06 PM
I think Herath is more of a threat than Lyon. Will be interesting to see how he goes outside the sub-continent.
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Manormanic on February 22, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
Herath has a decent record on the sub continent but not much outside, and it is noticeable that his SR is poor everywhere
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 22, 2014, 08:43:44 PM
I think Herath is more of a threat than Lyon. Will be interesting to see how he goes outside the sub-continent.
He was cack when he was Hampshire's overseas!
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: Gingerbusiness on February 22, 2014, 08:59:22 PM
Cook
Warner
Amla
Clarke (C)
Pujara
De Viliers
Sanga (WK)
Ashwin
Broad
Johnson
Steyn

Something a bit different...
Title: Re: Current world test XI
Post by: joeljonno on February 22, 2014, 09:05:38 PM
When you ask a question, stats give the answer :o)

...


Performances for 2 Years to 20/02/2014


   Player  Batting  Bowling  Dismissals 
1  G C Smith (SAF)   1483 Runs @ 46.34         
2  D A Warner (AUS)   1669 Runs @ 42.79   4 Wickets @ 51.25     
3  K C Sangakkara (SRL)   1778 Runs @ 77.30         
4  L R Taylor (NZL)   1607 Runs @ 57.39         
5  S Chanderpaul (WIN)   1431 Runs @ 95.40         
6  A D Mathews (SRL)   793 Runs @ 52.87   7 Wickets @ 70.29     
7  A B de Villiers (SAF)   1843 Runs @ 63.55      68 Dismissals @ 4.00 per match   
8  V D Philander (SAF)   485 Runs @ 26.94   78 Wickets @ 20.73     
9  M G Johnson (AUS)   317 Runs @ 26.42   65 Wickets @ 17.06     
10  R J Harris (AUS)   320 Runs @ 24.62   55 Wickets @ 22.33     
11  H M R Herath (SRL)   107 Runs @ 6.29   97 Wickets @ 24.68     


Selection Criteria (performances in the 2 years to 20/02/2014) 
 
Batsmen 
(a)  Minimum 1 innings in the immediately preceding 12 months 
(b)  Mimimum 20 innings in the relevant batting position, unless no player qualifies under this criteria. 
(c)  Players performances are analysed for each position in the batting order, and the player having the highest average while batting in each position 1 to 6 is selected for that position. 
(d)  Performances by players batting 1 and 2 are combined to obtain an average for opening batsmen. 
 
Wicket Keeper 
(a)  Minimum 1 match in the immediately preceding 12 months 
(b)  Minimum 40 dismissals unless no other player has so qualified. 
(d)  Player with the highest dismissal per match ratio (i.e. Dismissals / Matches) is selected. 
 
Bowlers 
(a)  Minimum 1 match in the immediately preceding 12 months. 
(b)  Minimum 40 wickets. 
(c)  The spin bowler with the best bowling average, and the 3 pace bowlers with the best bowling averages are selected. Batting order is determined by batting average in the immediately preceding 2 years. 
 

from ...   http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/WorldXI.asp (http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/WorldXI.asp)