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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: uknsaunders on March 12, 2014, 07:58:16 PM

Title: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: uknsaunders on March 12, 2014, 07:58:16 PM
Just wondered how much added "extras" weigh on a cricket bat. What is the lightest grip and how much does stickers/scuff/tape/personal grip preference add to a bat? Looking at the B&S bat laser engraved bat, isn't their an argument for minimalism actual making a bigger bat for the weight?
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: GDP1964 on March 12, 2014, 08:09:17 PM
Adding a scuff sheet +stickers+grip takes a dry weight  B&S bat from 2.6 up to 2.8 the grip is 3/4 of the extra weight
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: procricket on March 12, 2014, 08:11:05 PM
cheap Indian grip half a ounce and bb stickers half a ounce...

1oz
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: uknsaunders on March 12, 2014, 08:30:41 PM
I normally stick to a chevron grip and sometimes another half grip instead of two grips. What is the lightest grip?

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Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: kal_m on March 12, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
An octopus grip is around 2 oz and the stickers around 1 oz. That's 3 oz total I took off a bat last week.Got the bat from 2.16 to 2.13. And I believe that a chevron grip wold be around 1 oz.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: roco on March 12, 2014, 09:04:16 PM
I think my grip set up adds around 3-4oz
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
An octopus grip is around 2 oz and the stickers around 1 oz. That's 3 oz total I took off a bat last week.Got the bat from 2.16 to 2.13. And I believe that a chevron grip wold be around 1 oz.

You mean 3lb yeah??
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: kal_m on March 13, 2014, 06:12:35 AM
You mean 3lb yeah??

No, I meant 3 ounces.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: wayward_hayward on March 13, 2014, 07:07:43 AM
This thread has got me thinking about my GN Maverick. It's a touch on the heavy side as it is and the HUGE back sticker can't be helping things. Are we looking at about an ounce for that?
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: Fezballoh on March 13, 2014, 07:08:15 AM
lol
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: Fezballoh on March 13, 2014, 07:36:57 AM
I'll qualify that lol. It was for the 3lb joke ;)

I'm not sure I buy too much into the amount of weight adding these bits and pieces. For me, it's more about weight distribution. After all, lots of people add a grip to improve pick up. And I see more and more pros with counter weights at the top of their bat handles.

 Pretty sure I've heard Julian Millichamp say on a video that he doesn't tell customers what his bats weigh when they come to him. Another case in point is a friend of mine who "doesn't like" heavy bats but always ends up with bats upwards of 2'10"! (I know cause I'm always gluing the toes back together for him!) Can we all really spot a change in weight of one ounce? I suggest a test. Everyone on the forum enters a guess-the-weight-of-the-cake competition and we see how many of us win.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: trypewriter on March 13, 2014, 08:06:05 AM
I'll qualify that lol. It was for the 3lb joke ;)

I'm not sure I buy too much into the amount of weight adding these bits and pieces. For me, it's more about weight distribution. After all, lots of people add a grip to improve pick up. And I see more and more pros with counter weights at the top of their bat handles.

 Pretty sure I've heard Julian Millichamp say on a video that he doesn't tell customers what his bats weigh when they come to him. Another case in point is a friend of mine who "doesn't like" heavy bats but always ends up with bats upwards of 2'10"! (I know cause I'm always gluing the toes back together for him!) Can we all really spot a change in weight of one ounce? I suggest a test. Everyone on the forum enters a guess-the-weight-of-the-cake competition and we see how many of us win.


I'm terrible at this even when picking a bat up! Paul at IJC is amazingly accurate when picking up a bat, inevitably right on the money.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on March 13, 2014, 08:25:02 AM
i think you would have to be pretty sensitive to change if your picking up a 1oz difference just by picking up a bat. using it for a period of time may be different.

My current stickers, single grip and antiscuff add around 2-2.5oz to the weight of the bat. grips are arouind 1.2-1.5oz of that. New stickers when they arrive may drop that weight down a little.

my grip set up adds around another 2- 2.5 oz to that.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: kal_m on March 13, 2014, 02:03:28 PM
This thread has got me thinking about my GN Maverick. It's a touch on the heavy side as it is and the HUGE back sticker can't be helping things. Are we looking at about an ounce for that?

I bet that would be adding an ounce.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: Chad on March 13, 2014, 02:15:36 PM
I just use one grip, and find Chevrons and Hybrids to be my favourites. Generally speaking, they weight from 1.3-1.6oz. I'm actually quite liking the octo-scale grip on my B&S, and sometimes like a spiral on those thinner handles, which probably weigh around 2 ounces. In terms of stickers, they shouldn't make a massive difference in weight, unless we are talking about SS or something like that. (Funnily enough, I reckon mine would be too light if I took off those stickers!) However, you would prefer that extra weight in willow!
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: smilley792 on March 13, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
No, I meant 3 ounces.

No you meant 3lb


There is 16 oz in lb. so a bat can't be 2.16oz. It would be 3lb!

2.14
2.15
3
3.1
Etc etc
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: GarrettJ on March 13, 2014, 02:23:08 PM
Adding extra grips adds ounces to the correct end of the bat. I have two gm absorba grips on my own bat
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: Kulli on March 13, 2014, 02:35:18 PM
Adding extra grips adds ounces to the correct end of the bat. I have two gm absorba grips on my own bat

Yup, I an understand removing grips to change the feel, but not the deadweight, unless you bat for so long each innings that you exhaust yourself!
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: kal_m on March 13, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
No you meant 3lb


There is 16 oz in lb. so a bat can't be 2.16oz. It would be 3lb!

2.14
2.15
3
3.1
Etc etc

For some reason I weighed the bat and noted the weight as 2.16.

I was just trying to make a point that I reduced the weight of the bat by 3oz after removing a grip and the stickers.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: brokenbat on March 13, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
i know the marginal weight seems really tiny, but sometimes these minor differences DO make a difference. for example, when i roll down my grip, and roll it back up, so there is an extra amount sticking out above and beyond the top of the handle, the pickup feels noticeably lighter!.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: kal_m on March 13, 2014, 06:33:46 PM
i know the marginal weight seems really tiny, but sometimes these minor differences DO make a difference. for example, when i roll down my grip, and roll it back up, so there is an extra amount sticking out above and beyond the top of the handle, the pickup feels noticeably lighter!.

Is that true? Having the grip stick out a bit makes the bat feel lighter? This is the first time I'm hearing this. Will give it a try
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: GarrettJ on March 13, 2014, 07:07:33 PM
All the weight of a bat is in the bottom half, so it is in the best interest of the batsman to get some weight at the top of the handle, hence the reason for some batsmen having a big bulge  :-[ 

Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: kal_m on March 13, 2014, 07:38:43 PM
Just some pics of grips with different weights....

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/kalyan111/Grip_weight/DSC_0035_zps1f336efa.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/kalyan111/media/Grip_weight/DSC_0035_zps1f336efa.jpg.html)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/kalyan111/Grip_weight/DSC_0034_zps8d0372c0.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/kalyan111/media/Grip_weight/DSC_0034_zps8d0372c0.jpg.html)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/kalyan111/Grip_weight/DSC_0033_zpse480b09c.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/kalyan111/media/Grip_weight/DSC_0033_zpse480b09c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: brokenbat on March 13, 2014, 07:58:39 PM
Is that true? Having the grip stick out a bit makes the bat feel lighter? This is the first time I'm hearing this. Will give it a try

it is for me. the more it sticks out, the lighter (marginally) the bat feels.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: FattusCattus on March 13, 2014, 08:12:59 PM
Really?

The more mine sticks out, the less likely I am to leave the house!
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: kal_m on March 13, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
One problem I've had and will have with the grip sticking out is that it feels like a long handle (psychological) which I don't prefer.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: brokenbat on March 13, 2014, 09:35:02 PM
here's an experiment you can do. make it stick out a lot. feel the bat.. then cut off the excess (instead of smashing it back down). and feel the difference.

i am also assuming the sickos here are going to have a field day with this post.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: procricket on March 13, 2014, 09:37:39 PM
Some diesel smelling sub continent grips weight is under 1oz
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: uknsaunders on March 13, 2014, 10:13:12 PM
I can see everybody taking scales to their local cricket shops and weighing grips!

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Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: Batoff on March 13, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
Pah, why worry about an oz or two. You aren't Michael Hussey.

Grip it and rip it.
Title: Re: Bat Setup and Weight Overheads
Post by: Kippa2209 on March 14, 2014, 11:10:02 AM
Surely it's all about weight distribution anyway? I've always found I can use a bat of say 2lb11 with a high middle but if the middle is low then it's too heavy on the pick up. Personally I don't care what it weighs as long as when I pick it up it doesn't feel like a tree or wand!