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Title: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: smilley792 on March 21, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
Right, in aldred video he has a nylon type hammer for knocking in, which "he acquired"

I've seen a video by ijc at hell 4 leather which also has a similar mallet. Of which paul said he wanted, but was told no as there hard to acquire,



So does anyone know what these mallets are exactly and where to get them.


I have this link, but nothing on the site says bat knocking in, or for softwood. And non look like Paul's or matts hammers anyway.


http://www.thorhammer.com/Products/ (http://www.thorhammer.com/Products/)

Any help? Cheers
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: trypewriter on March 21, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
just replied on paul's thread thor 8126 I think.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 21, 2014, 06:25:21 PM
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/thor-8126-super-plastic-mallet-80mm-950g-r34bm (http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/thor-8126-super-plastic-mallet-80mm-950g-r34bm)
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: wayward_hayward on March 21, 2014, 06:58:59 PM
[url]http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/thor-8126-super-plastic-mallet-80mm-950g-r34bm[/url] ([url]http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/thor-8126-super-plastic-mallet-80mm-950g-r34bm[/url])


What makes this a better mallet than the standard wooden ones?
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 21, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
No idea, never used one. Would like to try.

These nylon ones are probably better than a standard off the shelf wooden mallet. A lignum vitae mallet is probably still the king though.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Uzi Sports on March 21, 2014, 07:07:26 PM
does any one know where we can get the lignum vitae mallet
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Jaffa on March 21, 2014, 07:28:03 PM
Might have to round off the edges though.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SALMENS-WOODEN-MALLET-LIGNUM-VITAE-CANE-HANDLE-TINSMANS-TINMANS-STOCK-6-SHORT-/251047850691?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item3a739e32c3 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SALMENS-WOODEN-MALLET-LIGNUM-VITAE-CANE-HANDLE-TINSMANS-TINMANS-STOCK-6-SHORT-/251047850691?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item3a739e32c3)
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: smilley792 on March 21, 2014, 07:31:11 PM
For lignam vitae

http://www.xxl-sale.co.uk/search/?q=lignum%20vitae%20mallet&campid=5337248816 (http://www.xxl-sale.co.uk/search/?q=lignum%20vitae%20mallet&campid=5337248816)
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on March 21, 2014, 07:41:09 PM
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/thor-8126-super-plastic-mallet-80mm-950g-r34bm (http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/thor-8126-super-plastic-mallet-80mm-950g-r34bm)

This nylon mallet has a pretty flat face.. and not the rounded face which Paul/Julian uses.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: hell4leather cricket on March 21, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
I had to make my own ,there not of the shelf
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: smilley792 on March 21, 2014, 07:56:15 PM
I had to make my own ,there not of the shelf

Spill on how and ehat you used please?

Or

Make them to sell?

Congrats on the great exposure with netherlands today to(yes im sucking up)
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: RossViper on March 23, 2014, 06:43:27 AM
That nylon mallet is a plastic mallet! Don't confuse the 2! :D nylon is softer I think  :D

What makes them better, there are higher density than standard, making them harder and heavier, thus more efficient at the job in hand. And I would guess, imporantly , not too hard and heavy - ball pian any one!
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Fezballoh on March 23, 2014, 07:18:31 AM
That's why lignum vitae is a good option, Ross. It is strong enough to compress the face of the bat and work the edges over and light enough that you can do a few hundred strikes without getting tennis elbow. They are traditionally used for lead beating, and come in all sorts of shapes so you should be able to find a rounded one on Ebay sooner or later.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Number 11 on March 24, 2014, 01:51:59 AM
I reckon I can make something up. I do a bit of hobby engineering.
How about aluminium head and handle with an acetal face around 2.5 or 3" diameter? or maybe just solid acetal or nylon or whatever's available in the offcuts bin at my local plastics supplier.

the flat faced lignum mallets will need quite a bit of work to round them off and the other rounded ones are mostly too rounded.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: i12breakfree on March 24, 2014, 02:21:38 AM
Local home stores in USA have these

http://m.homedepot.com/p/Estwing-18-oz-No-Mark-Deadhead-Rubber-Mallet-DH-18N/100351737/


Will this work
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Marc28 on March 24, 2014, 04:32:07 AM
So what would be the best mallet for knocking in the is the Vignum the one to have, as at the moment I;ve got a gray nic mallet rounded on both ends only issue is the handle comes loose.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: tim2000s on March 24, 2014, 06:40:12 AM
Most of the knocking in mallets have a head radiused like a cricket ball,  for obvious reasons.  The only lignum vitae mallets that I've seen that may work are the metal work mallets,  rather than the carver's style,  which you would normally use with a chisel.

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Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Blank Bats on March 24, 2014, 06:59:50 AM
You need to be careful using lv mallets, they can easily wreck a bat if used incorrectly.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: trypewriter on March 24, 2014, 07:22:14 AM
You need to be careful using lv mallets, they can easily wreck a bat if used incorrectly.


I second that - similarly any mallet not specifically designed as a cricket bat knocking in mallet. You have to remember that Paul Aldred and H4L Matt have vast experience working with willow and know what sort of tools to choose.

For proper off the shelf designs Paul IJC's vid is worth a watch. http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/cricket-accessories-c24/bat-care-c30/gray-nicolls-deluxe-cricket-bat-mallet-p726 (http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/cricket-accessories-c24/bat-care-c30/gray-nicolls-deluxe-cricket-bat-mallet-p726)
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: ItsJustCricket on March 24, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
I find those lignum vitae mallets, while clearly incredible mallets, are very heavy.  Don't mind tapping up a few bats at Newbery/Woodstock/H4L with one, as I've done, but not sure how it would feel to knock in a bat for three hours with one.  The Gray-Nicolls Deluxe ones, as we recommended in our video, are a lot lighter, and a lot cheaper too.  The handles can come off, but just glue them back together with fevibond/wood glue and they will go for ages longer.  Apparently Newbery's lignum vitae mallet cost them £200!
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: FattusCattus on March 24, 2014, 01:17:27 PM
I'm pretty sure a few people have recommended the M&H style mallet.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on March 24, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
The m&h mallets are quality and less than a tenner
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Kevtheplumber on March 24, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Got this today

http://www.screwfix.com/p/forge-steel-rubber-mallet-white-16oz/21607?kpid=21607&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=CKeKodWCrL0CFWLHtAodjisAeA (http://www.screwfix.com/p/forge-steel-rubber-mallet-white-16oz/21607?kpid=21607&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=CKeKodWCrL0CFWLHtAodjisAeA)
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: fasteddie on March 24, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
I bought two from ebay. Cheap as, work beautifully, but I do have good forearms!

One lighter than the other. Both work very well together. Not expensive but have happily delivered 12 or so bats this year.

Not sure spending big is the way forward. The M&H or IJC seem safe bets.

As for the posh ones, I'd give it a swerve and spend the saving on coaching/claret.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: RossViper on March 25, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
That rubber mallet won't work, you need something hard, but not so hard it will damage the wood.

Aluminum with a plastic face night work, nylon would be ok, but might be a bit soft, "platics" and "nylon" are kind of the smae thing, but typically nylons softer right?
Not sure about acetal, not come across it.

Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Number 11 on March 25, 2014, 12:26:06 PM
Acetal is a bit harder than nylon, 120 on the Rockwell scale as opposed to 110.
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Kulli on September 09, 2014, 03:07:36 PM
What's the score with using a LV mallet, have managed to come across one free, just a little tentative about using it when people talk about wrecking bats with them. Is is just the risk of physically damaging the bat, or is there more to it than that?
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: Chad on September 09, 2014, 08:41:25 PM
What's the score with using a LV mallet, have managed to come across one free, just a little tentative about using it when people talk about wrecking bats with them. Is is just the risk of physically damaging the bat, or is there more to it than that?

Will let you know once I receive mine. :) I'm guessing just the extra weight, so you can accidentally whack too hard and cause a crack! Someone like Vitas will be best to ask though!
Title: Re: Knocking in mallets. Professional usage??
Post by: GarrettJ on September 09, 2014, 08:51:32 PM
I find mine doesn't do as much damage as my round head GN one. Mine is a 1kg flatter head one