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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: cricketfan6969 on March 25, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
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I'm always seeing the word 'lam' when people are talking about there bats, e.g I got a new BB lam. What does it mean? and what are they?
Rhys
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a laminate of 2 pieces of willow. normally an ugly piece and a pretty new face on it. doesnt conform to law 6/ Grade A bats so illegal to use in first class etc as potentially additional power from the glueing or double pressing depending on how they do it. think its frowned upon in certain leagues but nothing against using them in lower club cricket.
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There certain types of lam. Although all are illegal as red ink says.
I have both. A rk laminate, with a thin veneer on the face designed to aid performance.
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A mb Malik which has a extra piece stuck to the rear to give it a bibber spine/edges.
The first has ridicolous performance and ping, even in the toe,
The mb plays like every other bat I have,
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(http://www.photosbymcdonald.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/lamb.jpg)
I'll get my coat
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Since we are on the topic of this discussion, can I ask anyone with experience of it, are these type of bats more prone to breakage as eventually with a hard ball impacting a bat 1000s of times will eventually unsettle or weaken the glue/joint?
Additionally, I’ve seen pics of Lams on here and they seem like absolute monsters, assuming pickup and weight of these bats are heavy too? Or do they also come in lighter 2.9,8,7 ranges too?
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([url]http://www.photosbymcdonald.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/lamb.jpg[/url])
I'll get my coat
You'll have to wait a few more years for the wool to make that coat! :P
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They are available in smaller weights, but I use monsters anyway, so yeahs mine is a big laminate
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/Mobile%20Uploads/20140303_111319_zps7ccrx7f9.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140303_111319_zps7ccrx7f9.jpg.html)
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Cheers lads for clearing that up for me :D :D
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To be clear, a laminate cannot be used in 1st class cricket but can in league cricket (or friendly cricket) that us mere mortals played? If that is the case it certainly clears soemthing up for me. I always thought people who bought laminates were wasting their money as i thought they couldnt be used in any type of cricket
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As explained by few other members there are two types of LAMS
1- Size or edges increased Lam
2- Performance enhanced Lams
I think there is no point in using size increased lam but performance enhanced lam is definitely worth if made by some expert, you can definitely hit ball additional few metres using a good performance lam. Point to be noted is you can use them only in lower club league cricket or friendly matches as these are banned by ICC.
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I thought ALL lams were illegal and do not fit into any of class a, b or c of the laws
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I thought ALL lams were illegal and do not fit into any of class a, b or c of the laws
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this.
you can only use a bat made from one piece of wood (plus handle) unless the extra piece is added to repair the bat - which is the loophole lamitoes and tas use.
so you cannot use a lamimate bat in any form of match
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Buzz and Johnny are spot on.
The point is not whether they are illegal. They are in all forms of the game.
The point is whether a) anyone notices; b) anyone who does, cares; c) whether the umpires actually know the rules enough to do anything about it and d) whether a laminate gives a performance advantage to your average cricketer who can't time the ball like a pro.
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this.
you can only use a bat made from one piece of wood (plus handle) unless the extra piece is added to repair the bat - which is the loophole lamitoes and tas use.
so you cannot use a lamimate bat in any form of match
Could a delaminated bat be repaired as a Lam and therefore be legal?
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Could a delaminated bat be repaired as a Lam and therefore be legal?
No, as the material used on the face of the bat to repair it must not be rigid. either at the time of application or subsequently. Solid material cannot be inserted to repair surface damage, which is what delamination classes as.
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Be interesting to see how many people look for a lam when playing?
I tend to check many players bats out, weather just cos it's a top end gm, or a boutique bat you don't see often.
But apart from the guys hate as using an obvious lam as it had a 100 mm spine and the bits of wood were to different colours, I can't say Ives even or really looked for one?
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I have never seen a lam so how does one identify a lam? is it just based on the size or are there any other indications?
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I know there are shed loads of posts regarding lam bats, ,but has anyone done a rough performance test with these bats?
To gauge the actual, if any ,performance gains?
Perhaps just along the lines of a baseball type hit to an underarm thrown ball?
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I look at all batsmens bats as I'm sad. However, there are certain people who I'll take more of an interest in as they are more likely to have laminate bats.
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We did a completely unscientific test giving a newbery c6 lam and a bunch of other top bats to someone to try. His favorite was the lam... He didn't know there was anything special about it and has been playing cricket for 50 or so years...
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Unscientific test 2
The toe on my laminate pings better than some of my bats middle when using a mallet.
Weather this transfers inti real world performance or not I'll let you know when I use it in a friendly,
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Having used Lams provided by blank bats, i can surely say that my lams certainly sends ball further than my other non-lam bats, however difference is not huge, probably 8 to 10% more.
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I suppose 8-10 percent, is quite a gain, ,
I can see why they were banned
Would be nice to have a decent 'middle', in the toe of a bat, , I seem to use mine a lot!ha
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The toe on my laminate pings better than some of my bats middle when using a mallet.
That I believe is a definite advantage. I would love to have my toe 'pinging'.
Never cared for lams before but now I'm thinking of getting one.
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The toe on the lam certainly isn't small, so it may already have an advantage but even on some of my 3lb plus beasts, most the toes aren't very responsive.
Toe in question,
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/Mobile%20Uploads/20140303_111346_zpsbo1wk13n.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140303_111346_zpsbo1wk13n.jpg.html)
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That's a railway sleeper!! With a little bit of concaving!!ha
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Its also interesting to note that performance laminates arent cheap ie 230-250 quid and yet they are very sought after.
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Its also interesting to note that performance laminates arent cheap ie 230-250 quid and yet they are very sought after.
The RK cost me 180 delivered, and was made to my spec. Highly recommended bat maker for both lams, and normal bats.
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Ohhh lovely....now that's what I'm talking about.
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The toe on the lam certainly isn't small, so it may already have an advantage but even on some of my 3lb plus beasts, most the toes aren't very responsive.
Toe in question,
([url]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/Mobile%20Uploads/20140303_111346_zpsbo1wk13n.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140303_111346_zpsbo1wk13n.jpg.html[/url])
wow, what a toe, amazing and the bat is a real beast.