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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: arsenal123 on March 26, 2014, 02:40:24 PM

Title: Bat Drilling
Post by: arsenal123 on March 26, 2014, 02:40:24 PM
I haven't heard of the concept until recently.  Something which must have bypassed me, anyone got any thoughts?
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: tailender on March 26, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
I presume you are referring to the bats being drilled by customs?

Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: arsenal123 on March 26, 2014, 02:46:26 PM
Drilling a hole through the middle of the bat before it gets handled to reduce the weight.  A lekka style innovation or what?
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 26, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Hunts did it at least 10 years ago. Not sure if they were the first.

They have re-released the REvolution Turbo this year with similar technology. I have lots of nice Turbos in stock ;)
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: tailender on March 26, 2014, 02:52:17 PM
really?? I thought you were referring to customs haha!

cant see how that would make a big difference? and surely by taking out wood you are, in some way, effecting the bat?
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: ajmw89 on March 26, 2014, 02:55:39 PM
Hunts did it at least 10 years ago. Not sure if they were the first.

They have re-released the REvolution Turbo this year with similar technology. I have lots of nice Turbos in stock ;)

The one I used at the forum event felt a bit weird.  It went, but just didn't feel right
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Gingerbusiness on March 26, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
Id like one done with a full carbo core (Like a golf club).

Not sure it would work though...
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: fasteddie on March 26, 2014, 03:04:00 PM
Hunts did it at least 10 years ago. Not sure if they were the first.

They have re-released the REvolution Turbo this year with similar technology. I have lots of nice Turbos in stock ;)

What have they don the the bat?
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 26, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Id like one done with a full carbo core (Like a golf club).

Not sure it would work though...

They used to fill the space with cork, but this is illegal now. Uncle Tony might still do one if you ask nicely.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: tim2000s on March 26, 2014, 04:32:16 PM
I believe the Hunts County Turbo was the first of their bats to feature the drilled hole. I believe the Reflex was the second. I don't know whether anyone else did this?
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: smokem on March 26, 2014, 04:35:18 PM
Pretty sure GN Australia did it some 20 years ago with the GN Ultimate. This was the bat used by Boon, Slater and Hayden at the time.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: tim2000s on March 26, 2014, 05:00:39 PM
Pretty sure GN Australia did it some 20 years ago with the GN Ultimate. This was the bat used by Boon, Slater and Hayden at the time.
The Turbo was mid-eighties and the Reflex late-eighties early nineties, so it would be a similar era for HC.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: hell4leather cricket on March 26, 2014, 05:21:09 PM
Gn aus done a preditor core with a whole down the middle about 9/10years ago also slazenger done one about the same time?
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Ryan on March 26, 2014, 05:33:41 PM
Yeah, slaz did a V600 light about 15 year's ago which also had a hole drilled down the middle.

I've done about 3/4 and had no issue's yet, reduces weight and I think gives a little trampoline affect.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: procricket on March 26, 2014, 05:51:00 PM
Tony Cook was the inventor had a great meeting with him last Friday one of the last old school makers around great bloke no nosence type.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: arsenal123 on March 26, 2014, 08:07:45 PM
And his opinions on it?

And why does nobody else do it or experiment on it?  We have enough batmakers on here!!
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: tim2000s on March 26, 2014, 08:36:04 PM
I would love to get one of mine rehandled and drilled....


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Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: procricket on March 26, 2014, 08:52:44 PM
Send it back to Tony Tim i did a comparison test slight different sound but went well and depending on the drill size depends on the weight reduction.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: arsenal123 on March 26, 2014, 09:57:12 PM
Any extra 'go' or bigger size for its weight?
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: procricket on March 26, 2014, 09:59:48 PM
Just lighter for the size mate.

Only tapped up both felt nice just one sounded different to the other hard to say if it performance any better i wouldn't have thought so.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 26, 2014, 10:04:13 PM
The idea is to replicate the increased performance often seen when a bat delaminates but without the usual sudden breakage that follows.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: procricket on March 26, 2014, 10:08:36 PM
The idea is to replicate the increased performance often seen when a bat delaminates but without the usual sudden breakage that follows.

I stick to the weight loss theory or else you would drill through the delamination area like Impala did a few years ago.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 26, 2014, 10:17:35 PM
I stick to the weight loss theory or else you would drill through the delamination area like Impala did a few years ago.

Not sure I'm following you Dave?

The Revolution Turbo is drilled down to the 'middle' and then capped a bit higher up the blade, to create a hollow zone in the meat of the bat.

I know the older attempts were drilled almost the whole length of the blade, this is probably where the weight loss thing becomes much more relevant, as that can be a lot of wood depending on size of drill.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: procricket on March 26, 2014, 10:22:06 PM
Yes I know that I have seen the drill bits mate my take is it goes from the splice to around 6 inches from the toe.

The impala version went across the precived sweet spot and aimed on perofmence.

My theory is to make it lighter but does not really gain any perofmence benifits

But Tony knows more than me great maker of that there can be no doubt

Does that make sence mate.  I would do it to my bats to get te weight down.

Proper cricketing people down at Hunts County

Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: smilley792 on March 26, 2014, 10:23:37 PM
If you drilled a hole down.

Then tightly glued a carbon bar doen the hole, fitted the handle and played with it.

How would anyone know it was illegal??
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 26, 2014, 10:33:31 PM
Yes I know that I have seen the drill bits mate my take is it goes from the splice to around 6 inches from the toe.

The impala version went across the precived sweet spot and aimed on perofmence.

My theory is to make it lighter but does not really gain any perofmence benifits

But Tony knows more than me great maker of that there can be no doubt

Does that make sence mate.  I would do it to my bats to get te weight down.

Proper cricketing people down at Hunts County

As in edge to edge? I've never heard of that! Interesting concept.

Matt (the younger bat maker) came to our first forum event and did a Q&A, the topic of drilling came up and the delamination replication was the reason he gave, as well as a bigger bat for the weight.

Uncle T knows it all mate.

Smiley, not sure anyone would know, that's down to the integrity of the bat maker I suppose. If somehow a bat ended up in the hands of someone with some influence then I suppose they could cause some issues for that brand. That being said, plenty of bat makers are prepared to put their name to laminates without any fear of comeback.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: procricket on March 26, 2014, 11:46:39 PM
Yes mate edge to edge they drilled two holes mate in the procieved sweet spot.
Title: Re: Bat Drilling
Post by: Number4 on March 27, 2014, 02:20:35 AM
Yes Dave Redback released them here in Australia.

I have a GN Ultimate with hollow core rebound system that I may be will to chop in half to look. It was one of the best bats I have owned. It's about 20 years old