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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: smilley792 on April 08, 2014, 11:52:44 AM
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So a few games this week. How's are the England prospects doing.
Buttler. Anyone know why he hasn't been selected for Lancashire? Is he injured? Or having a break.later may be strange as a few other t20 players are playing.
Hales the non 4 day player made a hard thought 61 off 100 odd balls batting at 6 for notts. Read a lot of praise regarding.
Patel also batted well, but lumb failed,
Jimmy Anderson took a five for.
Prior is racking up the runs
Morgan got a first ball duck.
Probably to early to tell who's Inform, but good to see a few getting in the runs/wickets.
It's just a shame SKY have nothing on there telly, just 4 channels of dam repeats. Sky you are useless.
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On SSN they said Butler was being rested for Lancs.
Prior has been dropped about 3 times on his way to 70 odd...
Davies notched up a few runs for Surrey, could be in for a shout with the gloves. Probably the best glove man out of the 3 and had a decent last season with the bat.
Obviously these wickets are going to favour the bowlers as the clips they've shown on SSN there have been some lovely green tops so anyone who gets runs at this stage of the season has done well.
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Patel - 93
Davies - 67
Gurney & Meaker in amongst wickets.
Bopara (dare i say it) - 90
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Anybody know why James Taylor isn't plaing for Notts?
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prior has probably batted himself into the side with a ton vs mddx
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Ravi is Ali Cook's best friend in cricket.
worth noting. I would be staggered if he isn't in the first test match squad.
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Robson is a top prospect and if he has a good start to the summer I think we will see him in an England shirt for the first test.
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Pit or being dropped doesn't mean much. You watch most great innings, there rarely chance free(the pietersen innings on sky have a fair few drops in the )
Priors ton makes him a shoe in. And buttler being rested even stranger. Had buttler scores a ton or a gritty 50 he's be being talked about. Not playing means you score no runs. And no runs can't compete with a ton.
Can Ravi really make it back in to the test squad? Be a decent extra bowler on the flat tracks when your main attack is shattered.
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A left armer would be good, so Gurney's development is interesting.
I would expect that the England squad will already be 95% settled. County form will be irrelevant if a chosen one doesn't perform or a positive reinforcer if it does.
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Glad to see Ansari have a good start to the season for Surrey, I'd like to see him knocking on Englands door in the next 48 months.
I'm mostly interested in how Hales does batting at 6 for Notts. I know he had a horrendous season opening last year, but a good season at 6 and he could be a good fit for England test side. Very early days to call though after 1 innings.
Gurney getting into the test side I think may depend on how well Tymal Mills does, however they were both Net bowlers for England in the Ashes so the ECB must be well aware of their capabilities.
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Gurney is sharp but gets wickets.
Mills is quick and hits people. Depends what you want.
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morgans first ball duck.
Absolute Jaffa!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HouAhJjMAxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HouAhJjMAxQ)
How do I embed video to play in here?
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That ball from Lewis was an absolute screamer...
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I was going to nominate Tyrone Mills from my homeland, Essex.
But....
I've just read he is a Norwich fan! What!
Does he not realise the local clubs are Colly and Ipswich (whom I support).
Sorry Tyrone, but you've just gone to the back of the queue.
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morgans first ball duck.
Absolute Jaffa!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HouAhJjMAxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HouAhJjMAxQ)
How do I embed video to play in here?
Munched.
Nothing quite like late hooping.
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morgans first ball duck.
Absolute Jaffa!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HouAhJjMAxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HouAhJjMAxQ)
How do I embed video to play in here?
reminds me of me :D
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I was going to nominate Tyrone Mills from my homeland, Essex.
But....
I've just read he is a Norwich fan! What!
Does he not realise the local clubs are Colly and Ipswich (whom I support).
Sorry Tyrone, but you've just gone to the back of the queue.
*Tymal Mills
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Meaker's on a 4 fer v glamorgan including 2 in 2 balls
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Finn with a 4 for so far. Including prior. Who fell for 125 off 138 balls.
anyone know how quick finns been bowling at?
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reminds me of me :D
Do you get a lot of first ballers then Bruce? ;)
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Do you get a lot of first ballers then Bruce? ;)
Beat me to it!
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Finn on 5 for 70 now.
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I was going to nominate Tyrone Mills from my homeland, Essex.
But....
I've just read he is a Norwich fan! What!
Does he not realise the local clubs are Colly and Ipswich (whom I support).
Sorry Tyrone, but you've just gone to the back of the queue.
Isn't Tymal From Mildenhall, which isn't near Norwich or Ipswich really. Only one team to support in that case OTBC
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Do you get a lot of first ballers then Bruce? ;)
Beat me to it!
Top work!
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Patel followed his 93 up with a 4 ball duck.
Lumb on 34 not out. As notts look to pile in the runs against lancs.
Hales could be asked to play a fast t20 style innings to set victory up in that one if/when he gets in.
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Napier 7-21. Ok, it's against the students, but still got to take them.
Why wasn't he given a decent run in the 20-20 side. Couldn't have been worse than some of the players of three years back.
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Trott also struggling. 8 of 22 today. To add to his 4 in the other warm up match.
Lots wanting him straight back in an england shirt. But is it judt a blip? Or is he still struggling.
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not a current england player but certainly been talked about for the future is craig overton took 2 -13 today against the students. given that he missed most of last season with a back fracture its good to see him back playing
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The bowling I saw today by Durham Uni wouldn't get our 3rd team out! These games have to lose first class status soon!
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Moen Ali looking ok
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Prior was dropped on 10. Int side would have taken it and he was dropped twice more so his ton isn't really a 'return to form'.
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Prior was dropped on 10. Int side would have taken it and he was dropped twice more so his ton isn't really a 'return to form'.
You've still got to push on after being dropped!
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Trott also struggling. 8 of 22 today. To add to his 4 in the other warm up match.
Lots wanting him straight back in an england shirt. But is it judt a blip? Or is he still struggling.
If England want to move on from KP surely its time they move on from others like Trott as well?
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chris dent got 203* against cardiff mccu maybe if he keeps it up , he could get the call
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Lets wait and see once he's playing actual county sides...
Cardiff certainly aren't the strongest MCCU by a long shot
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The bowling I saw today by Durham Uni wouldn't get our 3rd team out! These games have to lose first class status soon!
What was their opening bowler like? Tall blonde right armer? probably the sharpest out of the lot
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Just watched Cook and Bopara snick off early doors. Looking forward to see Foakes bat.
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I like the look of Will Owen at Glamorgan, has bags of potential but injuries have let him down!
Tymal Mills from Essex has a bright future if he works hard enough!
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What was their opening bowler like? Tall blonde right armer? probably the sharpest out of the lot
Tim Alexander?
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I was going to nominate Tyrone Mills from my homeland, Essex.
But....
I've just read he is a Norwich fan! What!
Does he not realise the local clubs are Colly and Ipswich (whom I support).
Sorry Tyrone, but you've just gone to the back of the queue.
Tymal probably doesn't support Ipswich for one good reason FastEddie... He's been there.
For those of you who have never been to the weird, and sometimes wonderful, world of Ipswich - let me put it this way, it is NOT the most 'ethnically diverse' of places. Couple that with an air of 'You aren't from around here", the ability of any 'Tractor boy' to slip casual racism into any conversation, at any moment and, oh yes, don't forget the staring if you don't look like you fit in!
Speaking from experience (1/4 of my family are from Ipswich. My ex is also a born and breed Ipswich girl), I am ginger - they find that interesting up there... Interesting enough to stare persistently as you walk through the town centre anyway! :-[
(LOL! I am not saying truly this is why Tymal does not support Ipswich btw. Just a bit of fun ;))
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Bad bad day for Surrey!!
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Mitchell with the first century in division two for the pears, notably Ali made 69.
For some reason, Shantry has a knack of taking wickets - especially in the one day arena, could may be someone to look at if England are looking for the most awkward bowler in the county circuit. I reckon he could cause a few problems.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh0UOo674ME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh0UOo674ME)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh0UOo674ME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh0UOo674ME)
Reminds me, really like John Simpson as a keeper.
Like Bates at Hants, shame he can't bat! :(
Also surprised Rossington was in there instead of someone like Sterling, Berg or even Higgins.
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You all have to watch this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-oTOP1wpU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-oTOP1wpU)
6:40-6:55 - Doesn't look good for Sam Robson! Haha!
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You all have to watch this;
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6:40-6:55 - Doesn't look good for Sam Robson! Haha!
Right link? ;)
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Right link? ;)
Er no. That would be the link to my mobile phone upgrade...
This is the right one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-oTOP1wpU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-oTOP1wpU) (6:40-6:55)
Will update the previous too!
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Azeem Rafiq better option that Parry.......
Good cricket brain too.
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ooooof! Proper stuffings for Surrey and Middx!
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I read in cricket world that Lancashire's paul Horton still has hopes of playing for England this summer,
What are your thoughts on this? don't think there is a slower batsman in county cricket at present!
Surely better opening bats on the circuit?
Jack Shantry at Worcester seems to be in the Wkts, but one player who I think could play international ODI's is Gareth Andrew.
As far as spinners go, don't think parry or Kerrigan have much of a future in the international game, both fairly standard county players, better spin options available.
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Really enjoyed that youtube video on the 2014 LV= County Catch-Up - nice feature from the ecb.
I cant say that Horton stands out, haven't been much of him - but I wouldn't say that he's in the mix at all.
Personally Andrew isn't good enough with the ball to be a bowler/all-rounder and he gets the publicity mainly due the bat that he uses - Napier/Trego are much better all-rounders/bowlers that can hit big.
Agree re the spinners, I can't say we have anyone that's outstanding - I would personally go back to Monty(not sure why he's not being mentioned). However, if Moeen Ali can get this doosra sorted then he could become a genuine off-spinning all-rounder.
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Horton isn't good enough, he was lucky last season to keep his place in the team! He had one good knock towards the end and that saved his bacon!
Jack Shantry bowls high 70's, won't make an impact in the international arean bowling that pace I'm afraid!
Good win for Glamorgan today beating South Africa A... sorry I meant to say Surrey!
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I totally agree on Horton, cannot believe he is skipper! rumour has it he is to take over after chappy leaves..... disaster move
The great thing with shantry is his action, if he could get an extra yard he would be a handful
think gareth Andrew could do a job, great with bat and ball.
haha... it was a great win indeed, theres a young lad at Glamorgan called will owen, he didn't play but ive played against him, very good prospect
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Shantry has been putting on pace every year - all he needs is a few more mph and I reckon he'd be a great option, his action is more than enough to put any batsman off haha!
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Shantry has been putting on pace every year - all he needs is a few more mph and I reckon he'd be a great option, his action is more than enough to put any batsman off haha!
I agree, his action is mental! only a matter of time before his back goes!
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I agree, his action is mental! only a matter of time before his back goes!
Haha definitely! Faced him a few years back - interesting to say the least, certainly didn't end well either...
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Anyone else in ODI cricket make a huge impact bowling mid/high 70's....
Nathan Bracken 174 wkts @ 24 says that pace has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Johnny bairstow out for 6 weeks with a broken thumb.
Does that effect the England stumper choice? Buttler in a a back up for prior?
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Still think its time for Steve Davies to be given a shot - why he keeps getting overlooked is beyond me
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Johnny bairstow out for 6 weeks with a broken thumb.
Does that effect the England stumper choice? Buttler in a a back up for prior?
Following his display in the Ashes I'd imagine Bairstow was going to make way for Butler anyway.
I thought of Ron Weasley as more of a backstop/ball picker upper than a stumper!
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Johnny bairstow out for 6 weeks with a broken thumb.
Does that effect the England stumper choice? Buttler in a a back up for prior?
I don't think Buttler should be anywhere near the Test Squad as a back up to Prior at the moment. There are many more experienced keepers that have a better batting average than himself in the county championship - most notably Steven Davies who has a superb record http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/12450.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/12450.html) with the gloves and the bat for a keeper. Even Kieswetter was keeping Buttler out of the WK job at Somerset - says a lot really...
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Even Kieswetter was keeping Buttler out of the WK job at Somerset - says a lot really...
I always thought that was a matter of experience personally.
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Even Kieswetter was keeping Buttler out of the WK job at Somerset - says a lot really...
Doesn't say a lot to me. It's well known that Somerset kept kieswetter over buttler, as they believed if they went the other way and kept buttler, they'd then lose him for 90% of the year to England.
So keep kieswetter for the full 100% of the season, as everyone thought he'd been jettisoned from England's thoughts.
What many seems to forget is this is England! And when it comes to picking a side. Fc stats, ability to stump etc matter not one iota. It's all about if the face fits, and if your a nice guy.
Wrong it may be, but that's how they currently seem to run it.
If prior carries on with his start, and then makes runs in the first few test, all this will be mute.
But if he doesn't get a 50 in the first two test, I wouldn't be suprised to see someone else there, and with buttler being the odi/t20 stumper and already integrated. I believe it will be him(now bairstow is gone)
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Buttler's keeping has improved massivley in the past 12 months. If he can get some runs under his belt for Lancs then he is surely going to be pushing Prior. The fact that Prior has started with a ton obviously gives him the trump card at the moment though!
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He might not be on the verge of the national team, but how is Jason Roy looking? He played the Aussie summer in Sydney with Eastern Suburbs.
For some reason I ended up bowling in his net at training. He reverse flicked one of my part-time meds out of the nets down onto the street.... and apologised for the inconvenience of me having to fetch the ball....embarrassing...
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I'd still choose Davies over all keepers in the CC, including Prior.
New England, move towards the future - Prior only has a couple of years left at the top of the game given his age anyway. He obviously went through a dark patch, with coming out and also the death of one of his friends as Surrey - however his form seemed to be coming back last season and still boasts much better batting figures than Buttler.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/735679.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/735679.html)
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He might not be on the verge of the national team, but how is Jason Roy looking? He played the Aussie summer in Sydney with Eastern Suburbs.
For some reason I ended up bowling in his net at training. He reverse flicked one of my part-time meds out of the nets down onto the street.... and apologised for the inconvenience of me having to fetch the ball....embarrassing...
That's a funny story!
Did Jason Roy have a good very good summer down under playing Sydney Grade Cricket?
He was batting at number 7 for Surrey vs Glamorgan!
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Between Steve Davies and Prior to take the gloves for England this Summer, Buttler needs to score some big runs in the 4 day game for Lancs before he can stake his claim!
Jack Shantry's brother used to play for Glamorgan as well but had to retire due to an injury.
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That's a funny story!
Did Jason Roy have a good very good summer down under playing Sydney Grade Cricket?
He was batting at number 7 for Surrey vs Glamorgan!
Only average. A couple of good scores, nothing over 100.
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I like Steve Davies if for nothing more than when he played tennis at Stourport I played against him and he bought all the beers afterwards. Top lad!
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You all have to watch this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-oTOP1wpU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-oTOP1wpU)
6:40-6:55 - Doesn't look good for Sam Robson! Haha!
Haha! He played with his brother too!
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He might not be on the verge of the national team, but how is Jason Roy looking? He played the Aussie summer in Sydney with Eastern Suburbs.
talented lad but a couple of years away yet - to put in context, Surrey had (Ireland wicketkeeper) Gary Wilson, playing as a specialist batsman, batting ahead of him in the last game.
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Cricket today
Trott 37
Bell 0
Cook 35
Balance 77
Finn 4 wickets.
Hales dropped by notts even though he made 61 in last match.
Taylor made 60 odd though, but Patel 0 and lumb 17 failed.
Ali made 41
Spinners don't seem to be setting world on fire, tredwell took 1 wicket is about it.
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Rashid got a few runs, 80 odd?
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Rashid got a few runs, 80 odd?
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He did indeed, and tbh my choice as England spinner. Get him in and work with him!
Adam Lyth got 84 aswell. His fc average is 39 with a high off 248. He got any chance of filling England's opening spot?
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Adam Lyth was a hot tip a few years ago when he had a stellar season (it was prior to the 2010/11 Ashes) and alternatives were being mooted for Cook. He had the knack of making hundreds, which had eluded him up to that point.
Dropped off a lot the following year but worked himself back into form last year. An attractive left hander, can get ahead of himself but once he's in...
In all honesty, the Lions are probably his target this season.
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I like him, always looks good when I've seen him, attractive player.
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He'll definitely be 'in the mix' but I think he needs a good solid consistent season with Yorkshire. Maybe next year as I would suggest there are a few who are better choices at the moment.
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Robson is so far ahead of anyone else it's not funny
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Any argument to play both Ali and Rashid? Rashid's batting has come on laods over the last few years and at 6/7/8 would be more than handy. Share the spin role with Ali?
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Any argument to play both Ali and Rashid? Rashid's batting has come on laods over the last few years and at 6/7/8 would be more than handy. Share the spin role with Ali?
Wouldn't mind that at all, both very capable with the bat - will be interesting to see how Ali's off spin improves with the arrival of Ajmal again at Worcs.
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Any argument to play both Ali and Rashid? Rashid's batting has come on laods over the last few years and at 6/7/8 would be more than handy. Share the spin role with Ali?
bits and pieces players wont win test matches - in fact could loose you games. If you are playing four bowlers they all need to contribute. The problem with part timers is that it can place the remaining bowlers under further duress when the part timers get hit for 5 and over or more.
20 wickets win you test matches. who are the four/five bowlers most likely to do that? Pick them first and then see what batting you have/need in my view.
separately I still want to see us have a Warner/Sehwag/Darwan/Hayden/Slater style opening batsman who can really put pressure on the new ball bowlers. Plod plod plod accumulating openers are good - but don't set games up in the same way.
I don't ask for much... ;)
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Rashid made 108 before falling,good innings.
Trott fell for 26
Bell is 41*
Cook on 26 of 57plodding along
Carberry out for 27
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The key thing with Rashid or Borthwick is whether either can get a hatful of wickets this season. I fancy not, playing where they are playing, but I would love it if either prooved me wrong!
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Robson and Morgan rebuilding Middlesex's innings.
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bits and pieces players wont win test matches - in fact could loose you games. If you are playing four bowlers they all need to contribute. The problem with part timers is that it can place the remaining bowlers under further duress when the part timers get hit for 5 and over or more.
20 wickets win you test matches. who are the four/five bowlers most likely to do that? Pick them first and then see what batting you have/need in my view.
separately I still want to see us have a Warner/Sehwag/Darwan/Hayden/Slater style opening batsman who can really put pressure on the new ball bowlers. Plod plod plod accumulating openers are good - but don't set games up in the same way.
I don't ask for much... ;)
I wouldn't say Rashid is a part time bowler. He broke into the Yorkshire side as a leg spinner and has been on England A tours and development tours as a leggie, just that his batting has come on so much, he can now be classed as an all rounder.
Yes, you need to take 20 wickets to win a test, something which a leggie will contribute to hopefully. Ali can hopefully do the job Giles did and contain at one end. Not a fan of having someone in the side to do this, but it builds pressure and makes the oppo have to take chances against the others.
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Personally from a Kent point of view I really hope Sam billings and Daniel Bell-Drummond have good years. A few years away but as someone mentioned a attacking opening style bat Bell-Drummond fits the bill but like I said miles away at present. Also Billings is a superb keeper.
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Rashid is a part time bowler now.
It's a common tale. Promising young prospect becomes drinks boy and nets expert with England, in this instance maybe plays a few games under captains who have no clue how to use leg spinners, and development is stalled and put into reverse.
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James Vince bringing himself into consideration with a good all round season in all formats last year and just bringing up 100 off 149 balls? Has also been bowling a very small amount of economical overs recently.
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Cook 100 plus*
Robson 100 plus*
Bell 100 plus*
Morgan 89
Ballance 77
Vince 100 plus*
Not bad runs currently from a "maybe" line up for England.
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I think Taylors going to get into the squad as long as he does ok in CC this year given his form for the lions in Sri Lanka. Did Ballance not get selected for the Lions tour thinking about it now ????
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I think Taylors going to get into the squad as long as he does ok in CC this year given his form for the lions in Sri Lanka. Did Ballance not get selected for the Lions tour thinking about it now ????
Balance is already current test squad is he not? He certainly played last few ashes tests.
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Balance is already current test squad is he not? He certainly played last few ashes tests.
Ballance was not in the squad to tour west indies:
The test squad was:
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire, captain)**
Eoin Morgan (Middlesex, vice-captain)
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
Ravi Bopara (Essex)
Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Jade Dernbach (Surrey)
Harry Gurney (Nottinghamshire)
Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
Chris Jordan (Sussex)
Michael Lumb (Nottinghamshire)
Stephen Parry (Lancashire)
Joe Root (Yorkshire)*
Ben Stokes (Durham)
James Tredwell (Kent)
Luke Wright (Sussex)
Ian Bell (Warwickshire) - added to the squad on March 1 as cover from Morgan and Hales
Ballance more limited overs than test player for me.
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Ah yes, forgot about that, he only played one though didn't he I though.
Edit : I'd be worried if that was our test squad ;).
So what's everyones guess for our lineup/squad for the first test then?
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Ah yes, forgot about that, he only played one though didn't he I though.
Edit : I'd be worried if that was our test squad ;).
So what's everyones guess for our lineup/squad for the first test then?
As long as Dernbach is not included then I will be happy!!
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Who's going to win the race to the first 150? Vince is favourite at the rate he's storming along at.
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Who's going to win the race to the first 150? Vince is favourite at the rate he's storming along at.
Vince or Robson!!!?????
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Ballance was not in the squad to tour west indies:
The test squad was:
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire, captain)**
Eoin Morgan (Middlesex, vice-captain)
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
Ravi Bopara (Essex)
Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Jade Dernbach (Surrey)
Harry Gurney (Nottinghamshire)
Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
Chris Jordan (Sussex)
Michael Lumb (Nottinghamshire)
Stephen Parry (Lancashire)
Joe Root (Yorkshire)*
Ben Stokes (Durham)
James Tredwell (Kent)
Luke Wright (Sussex)
Ian Bell (Warwickshire) - added to the squad on March 1 as cover from Morgan and Hales
Ballance more limited overs than test player for me.
Dude the above squad was for odi and t20 World Cup. Sod all todo with tests.
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Vince out on 144! 98 of the runs from boundaries!
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Balance was in full squad for winter tour. England Didn't play tests against Windies.
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Ups sorry smiley is right!!!!
Stupid me!!!!
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Robson is so far ahead of anyone else it's not funny
And yesterday confirmed this.
I'm purely talking about the openers role btw, I'd love to see Moeen slot into the squad as middle order cover
Cook
Robson
Trott
Bell
Root
Stokes
Prior / Bairstow
Bresnan / Finn
Broad
Anderson
Panesar
Depth
Ali
Ballance
Morgan
Compton
Carberry
Taylor
Finn can definitely get back to where he was pre getting the yips in Aus, and Broad is more than capable at batting at 8. Prior is the much better player over Bairstow but I'm sure the selectors will try persist with Bairstow through this rebuild
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Can't see Trott playing at the moment, after everything that happened along with his poor start to the season - better off playing Ali, Taylor or Compton IMO
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From the sounds of it Trott is still struggling against the short ball so you'd think he'd need to sort that out first, it'd be nice to see someone else get a chance as well.
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Chris Jordon giving Trott a horrid time with the short stuff while Sam Robson and Steven Finn are having a fantastic start to the season!
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James Vince 50 from 31 balls! Carberry on his way to a ton with him as well but the game looks like it will finish before then at this rate unfortunately.
Edit : Maybe not, ton for Carberry! Hit two sixes of the last two balls of the match to get it dead on :o! Partnership of 101 off 10 overs between them in county championship...?
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There obviously celebrating the start off the ipl with that last 10!!
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More runs for Robson (Y)
And a win for Worc!!
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Runs again for Ballance yesterday. Ton red.
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Ballance has certainly started the season well - had family watching his innings yesterday and the comments ranged from "inevitable" to "exceptional". Maybe he is ready after all!
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This summer is a good starting point for him perhaps? Unlikely to get too much above waist height and a chance to bet in. He certainly has weight of run over a long period too.
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Possibly so - I said before the Ashes that I thought it was too soon for him, not because of the short ball issue (I happen to think he'll be okay with that one) but because he needed to bat higher up the order in the county game first, but the reports yesterday was that he's taken a step on over the winter, which probably means he is ready now.
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Runs again for Ballance yesterday. Ton red.
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170-odd red and still going.
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Just fell for 174. But a fine innings.
Cook failed at 39 this morning.
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Just my luck. Say he is still going and bang. All over.
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Just my luck. Say he is still going and bang. All over.
Bit like the Northants innings, to be fair. Ballance alone could almost ask them to follow on!
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Ryder joins Essex (maybe the wrong thread but hey)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/27112053 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/27112053)
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Buttler made a 42, and took some catches.
Anderson not making an impact with ball.
But Kerrigan in the wickets there.
Cook makes another ton!
Compton a ton, kieswetter 78*
And you could just play the Yorkshire eleven as England. As there all awesome......
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And you could just play the Yorkshire eleven as England. As there all awesome......
No mate, Williamson's a Kiwi and Sidearse has retired from internationals. :D
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No mate, Williamson's a Kiwi and Sidearse has retired from internationals. :D
Bairstow and root can replace them too....
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Bairstow and root can replace them too....
Aye, and Bressie lad in for Hodd since he's almost French! :D
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James Vince is looking in the highest form he has ever been at the moment with another 50 (not out), this time off just 69 balls. His average this season so far is 94 and his strike rate is 82.94! If he can carry this over to others formats I can see him getting a go somewhere in an England squad this year.
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Glad to see Compton in the runs agsin as he was made a scapegoat out of and why shouldn't he be given another go as he has a very good understanding with cookie at the top of the order
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Chris Tremlett continuing to show the form that got him into the test side.. He has taken 1 for 150 in the 50 overs he has bowled this year.. And that one was David Masters..
Really hope they send him to play some 2nd XI cricket, Surrey aren't going to being able to push for promotion when they're carrying a bowler..
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Chris Tremlett continuing to show the form that got him into the test side.. He has taken 1 for 150 in the 50 overs he has bowled this year.. And that one was David Masters..
Really hope they send him to play some 2nd XI cricket, Surrey aren't going to being able to push for promotion when they're carrying a bowler..
I really don't understand the Surrey selection - Linley should be first pick every time. I don't care that he wont ever win an England cap. Meaker then has to play as he will win an England cap and is the best quick we have. Dunn is the improving wild card, so he plays then that leaves Durnbach - who really knows what he is capable of. Tremlett is finished, I believe - not sure I would say that to his face, I ran into him at the oval in Feb and he is HUGE!!
Ansari may become a decent spinning all-rounder - but will probably become more of a batsman. His action which was once very pure has been shaped a little by too much one day and t20 stuff.
gggrrrrr.
Cook batted wekk today - but there were a load of pies bowled once the game was dead for him to fill his boots with
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How are things is division 2 by the way pal ;-)
To be fair I don't actually know what Dernbach is, I've always liked Ansari, n I really think Meaker should be knocking on the England door ahead of Mills.
Tremlett, I would stand behind you nodding in agreement (whilst using you as a shield)
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Glad to see Compton in the runs agsin as he was made a scapegoat out of and why shouldn't he be given another go as he has a very good understanding with cookie at the top of the order
From what I heard he wasn't really a scapegoat and just didn't really get on with people in the dressing room? Not sure about that though.
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James Vince is looking in the highest form he has ever been at the moment with another 50 (not out), this time off just 69 balls. His average this season so far is 94 and his strike rate is 82.94! If he can carry this over to others formats I can see him getting a go somewhere in an England squad this year.
Got to make hundreds though to grab that kind of attention!
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James Vince is looking in the highest form he has ever been at the moment with another 50 (not out), this time off just 69 balls. His average this season so far is 94 and his strike rate is 82.94! If he can carry this over to others formats I can see him getting a go somewhere in an England squad this year.
But who has he played? Gloucestershire in a relative duck shoot and a rain ruined game.
Not the greatest indicator of readiness.
Why not let him really develop rather than promote too early on promise and set him back (a la Bairstow)?
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I really don't understand the Surrey selection - Linley should be first pick every time. I don't care that he wont ever win an England cap. Meaker then has to play as he will win an England cap and is the best quick we have. Dunn is the improving wild card, so he plays then that leaves Durnbach - who really knows what he is capable of. Tremlett is finished, I believe - not sure I would say that to his face, I ran into him at the oval in Feb and he is HUGE!!
Ansari may become a decent spinning all-rounder - but will probably become more of a batsman. His action which was once very pure has been shaped a little by too much one day and t20 stuff.
gggrrrrr.
Cook batted wekk today - but there were a load of pies bowled once the game was dead for him to fill his boots with
George Edwards could be better than all of them, right?
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But who has he played? Gloucestershire in a relative duck shoot and a rain ruined game.
Not the greatest indicator of readiness.
Why not let him really develop rather than promote too early on promise and set him back (a la Bairstow)?
Its tricky isn't it?
Vince has been "on the radar" for four or five years now, since he was more or less still in nappies. I don't think he will do much more at county level than he is doing now until he has the experience of international cricket, but what he is doing now is just a step below what Ballance, Taylor, Chopra, Carberry, Compton, Kieswetter, Lees, Robson etc are doing.
Not saying he might not be worth a punt - he is certainly good to watch - but I fear he may be another Hildreth, destined never to quite make it.
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I really don't understand the Surrey selection - Linley should be first pick every time. I don't care that he wont ever win an England cap. Meaker then has to play as he will win an England cap and is the best quick we have. Dunn is the improving wild card, so he plays then that leaves Durnbach - who really knows what he is capable of. Tremlett is finished, I believe - not sure I would say that to his face, I ran into him at the oval in Feb and he is HUGE!!
Ansari may become a decent spinning all-rounder - but will probably become more of a batsman. His action which was once very pure has been shaped a little by too much one day and t20 stuff.
gggrrrrr.
Cook batted wekk today - but there were a load of pies bowled once the game was dead for him to fill his boots with
I completely agree. Meaker, Linley and Dernbach should be the three main pacers and then let Curran and Dunn fight for the 4th spot. You then have Ansari as the main spinner and then the odd few overs from Sibley and co when required. If only clubs were allowed "backsies", I would happily have Jon Lewis back in the side instead of Tremlett.. Atleast he is actually a threat with the ball...
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But who has he played? Gloucestershire in a relative duck shoot and a rain ruined game.
Not the greatest indicator of readiness.
Why not let him really develop rather than promote too early on promise and set him back (a la Bairstow)?
Yes the same Gloucestershire bowling lineup that were on the verge of getting Glamorgan out for <150 twice :D. I personally think and have said before that I feel this will be his season in at least one format, probably not test however maybe a limited overs team if space is available and he performs in them as he is in CC at the moment.
Manoramic : He has scored a hundred and looks to be quite easily able to push onto one in the match where he ended not out the other day :).
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Finn back in the wickets! 5 for in first innings, and got root in both.
Root and robson failed in the first in if a, but root has made a 59 in the seconds,
Bell gets another ton, Definately is a tad to good for county at mo,
Buttler is on 66* overnight! although top failed in the first innings,
Anderson a 5for in that game too.
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Finn back in the wickets! 5 for in first innings, and got root in both.
Root and robson failed in the first in if a, but root has made a 59 in the seconds,
Confused. Am I looking at same game?
I thought Finn got 4 in first inns and Root made 63 in second inns?
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Vince another century at a run a ball and still not out ;).
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Confused. Am I looking at same game?
I thought Finn got 4 in first inns and Root made 63 in second inns?
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Nah your right. Yorkies middlesex was first scorecard i looked at so added an extra wicket in my head for finn by time i posted, And root was meant to say got a 50. But my fat fingers hit 9 instead of 0 to make it look like i was being precise. Which i was not.
Either way my small errors still dont change what they done thag much.
Interesting that gale was dropped for root to play, and root made skipper. England having there say, and grooming root for future leadership?
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Finn back in the wickets! 5 for in first innings, and got root in both.
Root and robson failed in the first in if a, but root has made a 59 in the seconds,
To be fair, anyone who struggled to take wickets in the conditions at Lords would have needed shooting. It was ballooning for Sidey, Brooks and Murtagh!
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nteresting that gale was dropped for root to play, and root made skipper. England having there say, and grooming root for future leadership?
Gale dropped himself!
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To be fair, anyone who struggled to take wickets in the conditions at Lords would have needed shooting. It was ballooning for Sidey, Brooks and Murtagh!
Yep it looked spicy on day one. Makes yorkshires second innings scores look even better.
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5 wickets for Chris Jordan as well, hopefully it's a shootout between him and Finny for the third seamer behind Jimmy and Broad this summer
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SHouldn't be Finn based on what I've seen the last couple of days - still bowls some dangerous balls, but too wild and ragged, and his confidence could go at a moments notice. WOuld prefer they give him at least until the India series.
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SHouldn't be Finn based on what I've seen the last couple of days - still bowls some dangerous balls, but too wild and ragged, and his confidence could go at a moments notice. WOuld prefer they give him at least until the India series.
agree with this. Finn taking a few county wickets should not get him rushed back into the set up. He needs to produce it for a good half a season at least. Int batsmen will tear him apart.
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agree with this. Finn taking a few county wickets should not get him rushed back into the set up. He needs to produce it for a good half a season at least. Int batsmen will tear him apart.
I think they need to see him back to the form he was displaying in ODIs 18 months ago before giving him a slot - at the moment he is more like the wayward son of the previous Ashes down under (2011) bowling some decent balls in amidst some dreck.
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Lewis Gregory with a 5 for in the Somerset game vs Sussex in Sussex's first innings, looks good for 21 year old, plus I hear her can bat a bit. Maybe one for the future.
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More Moeen Ali runs on the board
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In case anyone cares...
ALEX HALES SHOULD BE PLAYING FOR ENGLAND IN ALL FORMATS OF THE GAME
I know I have been harping on about this for ages. but I am going to keep going until someone listens.
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In case anyone cares...
ALEX HALES SHOULD BE PLAYING FOR ENGLAND IN ALL FORMATS OF THE GAME
I know I have been harping on about this for ages. but I am going to keep going until someone listens.
I've said for ages he's wasted as a hit & giggle specialist, get him in the test side
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Totally agree with you Buzz, I've seen him play OD games and I'm sure he can convert himself to play test cricket. Before he hit his hundred today he was conservative, wasn't slogging but he was still scoring a lot of runs and hitting many fours all around the ground. Surely, now England have to wake up.
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Waking up isn't a strong point... :(