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Title: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 19, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Guys..i think its a lamination issue or something.. yhis is a new bat and i knocked it well.... i think i knocked it pretty hard..
so how can i fix this issue..
Is this an isssue at all?(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/20/venu6e2a.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/20/a2y8epyd.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/20/ytesybaq.jpg)


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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 19, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
When i press on the grains perpendicularly with my finger its going inwards

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Blank Bats on April 19, 2014, 05:50:57 PM
Looks very dry, has it been oiled ?
Title: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: i12breakfree on April 19, 2014, 09:47:27 PM
Is it a CA
Just coming back from a game and my teammate's CA has the same thing going on for  the grains
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Manormanic on April 20, 2014, 06:35:35 AM
looks to me like its waaaaaaay too dry - get some coats of bat wax on there and cross your fingers!
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 20, 2014, 08:03:20 PM
Looks very dry, has it been oiled ?
Its been oiled..
As a matter of fact i didnt put on fair amount of oil i think..

I was scared to put as im not sure how much oil is too much or too little

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 20, 2014, 08:04:11 PM
Btw its a new bat and recently been sanded when stickers removed

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Alvaro on April 20, 2014, 08:06:28 PM
I'd do two coats of oil, each one a teaspoon full.
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 20, 2014, 08:10:35 PM
Watered down PVA would be good to repair the face then give it a good oil then leave for 24 hrs before giving it a light sand with a fine grade sandpaper. 

Can't belive a new bats gone like that to be honest but doesn't surprise me with Asian made bats, they tend to be dried to a lower moisture content. 
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 20, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
I'd do two coats of oil, each one a teaspoon full.

I did not even put half a tea spoon

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 20, 2014, 11:45:54 PM
Watered down PVA would be good to repair the face then give it a good oil then leave for 24 hrs before giving it a light sand with a fine grade sandpaper. 

Ryan,

So do i need to put the glue under the grain? (Probably with a syringe)

If i font take care of this will it
1. Affect the performance later on?
2. Result in cracks or breakage of bat?

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 21, 2014, 08:15:03 AM
Get an old bottle, pour some pva glue in and then water down. Put the top back on give a good shake, once you're happy with the consistency drill a small hole in the top near the perimeter.  Now drip the glue on the affected area, the glue should soak through into and behind the grains. Leave to set and repeat a couple of times. Once happy give a light sand with fine sandpaper. Job done. 

BTW, I would do this before using it because it looks like it would delaminate eventually which will affect performance. 

Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 21, 2014, 08:17:07 AM
Ps. Glue the face then give it a full oil keeping the oil away from the splice area. Most manufacturers use PVA now which isn't affected by linceed oil but some don't so be careful around the splice. 
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 21, 2014, 09:53:28 AM
That looks to me that the bat has been allowed to dry out, I would pour PVA glue into the gaps then place the bat level on its spine cover the face with a cloth and apply pressure to the face with a weight on top of the towel leave for 24 hours  before removing. With regard to oiling as linseed  oil  is used to prevent dryness and dampness ( resist water penetration ) I would recommend oiling the bat using  your fingers but do not over oil as this can IMO deaden the bat.
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 21, 2014, 10:33:17 AM
That looks to me that the bat has been allowed to dry out, I would pour PVA glue into the gaps then place the bat level on its spine cover the face with a cloth and apply pressure to the face with a weight on top of the towel leave for 24 hours  before removing. With regard to oiling as linseed  oil  is used to prevent dryness and dampness ( resist water penetration ) I would recommend oiling the bat using  your fingers but do not over oil as this can IMO deaden the bat.

It's pretty much what I said although it's hard to apply pressure for that long and PVA sets within a few hours depending on the type used. Best way is to cut up a spiral grip, cut in between the ribs and slide a couple up the bat over the area. This should give enough pressure,  if not then you can wedge something in between the bat and grip to add more pressure. 
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 21, 2014, 10:48:44 AM
It's pretty much what I said although it's hard to apply pressure for that long and PVA sets within a few hours depending on the type used. Best way is to cut up a spiral grip, cut in between the ribs and slide a couple up the bat over the area. This should give enough pressure,  if not then you can wedge something in between the bat and grip to add more pressure.

Would wrapping tightly with parcel tape not give enough pressure??
(I swear by the stuff when I do repairs!)
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 21, 2014, 11:09:29 AM
It's the same thing,  there are a few ways but I find grips are one of the best and everyone has a spare grip. I've also used string with wooden wedges but that was for a bat that was in really bad shape. 
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 21, 2014, 11:16:06 AM
This is one I did a while back

http://t.co/TXqjDVxUye (http://t.co/TXqjDVxUye)
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 21, 2014, 07:15:21 PM
Ryan ill do what you recommended today and will ley you know the output

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 21, 2014, 08:04:51 PM
Good man, be interested to see how it comes out.
Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 22, 2014, 03:50:19 AM
Get an old bottle, pour some pva glue in and then water down. Put the top back on give a good shake, once you're happy with the consistency drill a small hole in the top near the perimeter.  Now drip the glue on the affected area, the glue should soak through into and behind the grains.

Ryan,
When i pour the watered down pva on the grains will it soak through and go behind the grains? Or do u think i have to open the grain lightly with a knife and put the glue in the gap?

Also how many drops of waterd glue do u think is needed for the part shoen in picture? I just wanted to make sure i dont over do it...

Thnx bud

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: kk0239 on April 22, 2014, 01:54:31 PM
Also i have fevibond and gorilla glue.. when one is better of these two?

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Title: Re: Space between bat face abd grains.. what to do..
Post by: Ryan on April 23, 2014, 04:35:22 PM
Doesn't matter which PVA you use, most PVA is manufactured by two main companies so the fevbond and gorilla glue may have been made at the same place. Just make sure it's in date.

Just water some down and pour on top, it'll soak into the wood and behind the grains.  Apply some, let it soak in and apply again then clamp. Leave a few hours and repeat.  Then once you are happy give it a sand with fine grit sandpaper.