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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: i12breakfree on April 22, 2014, 02:54:00 AM

Title: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: i12breakfree on April 22, 2014, 02:54:00 AM
Helping a friend with his bat repair.
From all the forum knowledge i have gained, the next step after face cleanup (remove edge tape glue, light sanding etc)  is to pour slightly diluted wood glue and fill up the cracks nicely.
My questions is that if i try to press the wood from edge I cannot see it moving and closing the gap created by the crack. So i am thinking should i still clamp or leave the wood glue create its binding in the crack ?
I am pretty sure that binding with grip bands or packaging tape after applying the glue will not help. May be a heavy duty clamp will put the required pressure. Still need the advice before i go and buy a clamp.

here are the pictures:
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Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: cam66 on April 22, 2014, 04:52:25 AM
personally I think that your friend should just buy a new bat. plus you cant have too many bats.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on April 22, 2014, 06:16:08 AM
Go straight past the hardware shop and head to It's Just Cricket or Uzi Sports.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Fezballoh on April 22, 2014, 06:17:03 AM
It is quite a big crack isn't it, Cam! When you say "heavy duty", don't go out and buy something that could prop up a sky scraper! Something like this will be more than good enough .

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p73583?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_campaign=googleshopping&mkwid=At5mCZGF&pcrid=26799266783&gclid=CPL1ivS4870CFRCWtAodYWgACA (http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p73583?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_campaign=googleshopping&mkwid=At5mCZGF&pcrid=26799266783&gclid=CPL1ivS4870CFRCWtAodYWgACA)
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Fearless Fly on April 22, 2014, 08:20:02 AM
I would give it a crack at repairing it if the bat is a gem. clamping it could do the job and then strengthen the bind with some filament tape (fibreglass tape) once the glue as set. you could bring it back but will more than likely crack again in my opinion after the repairs and refurbs i have done this season
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 22, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
I would apply PVA glue then clamp it (place soft material between clamp and bat)leave for  24 hours and then bind tightly with fibreglass tape.with regard to the clamp a 6 inch G-Clamp should suffice.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: i12breakfree on April 23, 2014, 03:46:04 AM
Applied the glue and the clamp
After some time the glue filled the gap. So left some glue on the surface and hopefully gravity will take care of this

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Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: rajesh500 on April 23, 2014, 04:12:08 AM
is that $5 off from the bat repair?
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Fearless Fly on April 23, 2014, 04:12:36 AM
that will work for the main crack, possibly try lifting the surface cracks on the toe with a tooth pick and get some glue in them and then clamp them with a bulldog clip or clamp.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Cricket_PTY on April 23, 2014, 04:52:17 PM
Good job... i think u should stick some dowels to give the repair some more strenght....

And finish it with some twine, i think it will work for a couple of seasons.

Cheers...
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Colesy on April 23, 2014, 05:28:58 PM
Tell your friend to use the middle and not the toe
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Ryan on April 23, 2014, 09:04:32 PM
You would have been better applying pressure along the full length of the damage not just the top. Glue also seems a little thick. It needs to be thinner to get into all of the small cracks. I'd also insert 3/4 wooden dowels through the damaged section and then bind with twine.  It should hold if done properly but there's always a risk with repairing damage that bad.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: i12breakfree on April 23, 2014, 09:23:11 PM

You would have been better applying pressure along the full length of the damage not just the top. Glue also seems a little thick. It needs to be thinner to get into all of the small cracks. I'd also insert 3/4 wooden dowels through the damaged section and then bind with twine.  It should hold if done properly but there's always a risk with repairing damage that bad.

Can you please show me an example of how you inserted dowels ?
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Ryan on April 24, 2014, 08:15:44 AM
its quite easy, buy a length of dowel the same diameter as one of your drill bits. drill in to the damaged section through the edge and into the blade of the bat. pour watered down glue into the hole and then hammer in the wooden dowel. cut off the excess and sand.

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh498/Kelsallcustombats/1370630530973_zps68a91126.jpg)
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 24, 2014, 09:45:38 AM
My method of fitting doweling is to clamp the broken piece in place on bat ensuring a tight fit then  drill through broken piece into bat remove broken piece and continue to drill holes in the  bat to a depth of no less than 1 inch. Then glue dowelling into drilled bat holes once glue has Set apply glue onto exposed dowelling and where it is required etc fit broken piece onto dowelling cut dowels flush and clamp.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: MD2812 on April 24, 2014, 09:53:28 AM
I wonder if there is a way you could open up the crack with pressure and insert glue.

Gavin at autoglass style.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 24, 2014, 10:19:39 AM
Not sure as it could cause greater damage.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: i12breakfree on April 24, 2014, 11:10:12 AM
Thanks Ryan and SeniorPlayer.
i'll get the dowels and try to insert those. will upload the pics once done.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Ryan on April 24, 2014, 12:24:13 PM
My method of fitting doweling is to clamp the broken piece in place on bat ensuring a tight fit then  drill through broken piece into bat remove broken piece and continue to drill holes in the  bat to a depth of no less than 1 inch. Then glue dowelling into drilled bat holes once glue has Set apply glue onto exposed dowelling and where it is required etc fit broken piece onto dowelling cut dowels flush and clamp.

you'd be better off gluing and clamping to broken piece before drilling any holes. That ensures that nothing moves and that you get a tight fit. I'd also recommend drilling them at a slight angle to keep tension on the area.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 24, 2014, 04:02:10 PM
Gluing dowelling into drilled holes should ensure tight fit particularly if holes are slightly to big.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: i12breakfree on April 27, 2014, 04:44:08 PM
Dowels have been inserted

My only fear is the bottom one has a bigger hole than the size of dowel
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Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: RossViper on April 27, 2014, 05:53:05 PM
My method of fitting doweling is to clamp the broken piece in place on bat ensuring a tight fit then  drill through broken piece into bat remove broken piece and continue to drill holes in the  bat to a depth of no less than 1 inch. Then glue dowelling into drilled bat holes once glue has Set apply glue onto exposed dowelling and where it is required etc fit broken piece onto dowelling cut dowels flush and clamp.

Makes absolutely no sense what so ever, and depending on how the broken bit comes out of the bat, might not even be possible.

ALWAYS fix the crack first then fit the dowels, can't imagine why you would do it any other way.... Am I missing something.


Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: RossViper on April 27, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
Also you can add another dowel to the lower end of that fix.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 27, 2014, 09:36:46 PM
Ross tightness and depth of dowelling.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: i12breakfree on May 06, 2014, 07:24:24 PM
Update - the bat was used last weekend in a t20 game and my friend hit couple of fours and one big
six with this bat. So the repair seems to be working fine :)
Thanks everyone for their input.
Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: i12breakfree on March 15, 2015, 07:00:09 PM
This bat is back with me after 10 months. My friend has used it in atleast in 10-15 matches and scored big. The last repair is going strong...so thanks to everyone for the inputs earlier.

The bat seems to be at its peak. Pings crazy but now have a new crack. looking for suggestions.

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Title: Re: Bat repair - advice needed
Post by: Northern monkey on March 15, 2015, 09:00:24 PM
eBay or the for sale section on here?