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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: SillyShilly on October 21, 2009, 10:47:47 PM

Title: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SillyShilly on October 21, 2009, 10:47:47 PM
Right, a little question for our resident experts (probably aimed at Norb here!) - does the Wavex handle do what they say it does, or is this a bunch of crap from a less than reputable brand????? I just wonder whether the science behind it is scientific or make-believe. I have my own opinions on it but i would be interested to know if any people know anything about these handles.

http://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/wavex.html (http://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/wavex.html)

Apparantly Kippax make for 5 international pro's at the moment   ::), they'd be lucky if 5 people even owned a kippax bat!
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SAF Bats on October 22, 2009, 07:44:04 AM
Sorry to disappoint here but I haven't got the foggest.  If it helps the design isn't something I would look at when doing handles
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Tom on October 22, 2009, 08:09:58 AM
The ones I have seen have snapped very easily at the thin part of the wave.

That said one of Shah's bats I got hold of (originally Thorpes) had a very similar handle in.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Lekka Global Alliance on October 22, 2009, 08:23:32 AM
It could have been generic Tom.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Tom on October 22, 2009, 08:24:53 AM
Who else produces wavey handles? I didn't say it was Kippax, just said it was similar. Haven't seen anyone else producing them though.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Lekka Global Alliance on October 22, 2009, 08:36:48 AM
Wavex is it the title.

As for who makes , just 2 that I know of in Greater Asia.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Apple on October 22, 2009, 03:03:35 PM
surely it if u didnt like ribbed grips it would be horrible to use?
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SillyShilly on October 22, 2009, 04:07:19 PM
Norb, your fired as Resident Bat Expert, Apple - your hired.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SAF Bats on October 22, 2009, 04:09:43 PM
I dont like dem Apples
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Apple on October 22, 2009, 04:15:54 PM
Re-reading what I typed, thats embrassing . . .
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Beachcricket on October 23, 2009, 07:37:21 PM
A friend has a great Kippax bat, but the Wavex handle snapped very quickly. He had it replaced with a Hunts handle which is far better.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SAF Bats on October 23, 2009, 09:11:03 PM
Blimey a Hunts handle was better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Beachcricket on October 24, 2009, 10:23:34 AM
I love them, the oval ones feel almost perfect for me.

How come you're not a fan of them? I suppose everyone's had bogey bats, I went through a phase of only buying planks.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SAF Bats on October 24, 2009, 11:08:41 AM
just me mate I'm not a fan....
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Apple on October 24, 2009, 03:02:09 PM
So norb, what is the best quailty handle?
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Tom on October 24, 2009, 03:13:35 PM
just me mate I'm not a fan....
Which Hunts handles do you not like? They handle with 3 types.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SillyShilly on March 22, 2010, 11:35:24 AM
"We conclude from our tests that the wavex design
significantly improves the power ratio of the bat by up to 50%"

That impressive if it's true - i wonder what type of testing they did and how rigorous it was?
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Talisman on March 22, 2010, 12:37:32 PM
I have a Wavex handle to use in a cleft for research but find all these 20% bigger/better/quicker claims to be a by product of male cows......
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: SillyShilly on March 22, 2010, 12:51:59 PM
I like the theory behind it and think it looks good - perhaps it has potential to be improved.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Talisman on March 22, 2010, 01:15:24 PM
There are a few people working on new handles, someone is bound to make a breakthrough.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Howzat on March 22, 2010, 01:18:55 PM
"We conclude from our tests that the wavex design
significantly improves the power ratio of the bat by up to 50%"

That impressive if it's true - i wonder what type of testing they did and how rigorous it was?
They took two clefts from next to each other in the same tree one had wavex the other didnt. Not really sure what they did after that!
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: frankspop on March 22, 2010, 03:20:43 PM
Wavex was developed initially to reduce vibration in tennis racquets to prevent tennis elbow.  They produced a Wavex range of racquets, which never caught on, and have since sunk without trace.  The 'waves' were designed into the throat of the racquet, and possibly into the handle.  There appears no support on the forums that it really worked in tennis. Indeed, the biggest factor shown to improve tennis elbow is grip size. So, there may be other artefacts causing the apparent improvement rather than the concept of vibration waves being disrupted (and even returned) by change in cross section.

The wavex website is down, and their Canadian stock value appears to be zero.  May have gone out of business?

Do the Kippax handles have the standard springs in, or have these been dispensed with because of the 'wave' design?

Also, if the 'science' stood up, there would be a better explanation of how it works on the website. It looks like it was written by someone with a poor grasp of physics, or being deliberately vague .  For a start they are not sure whether it is friction or vibration that travels up the bat. Be very sceptical of this handle until someone can provide an independent test.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Talisman on March 22, 2010, 03:35:43 PM
Single rubber spring.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Beachcricket on March 22, 2010, 04:43:27 PM
Don't Hunts do one with extra rubber in it? makes it more flexible or something.
Title: Re: Wavex Handles - Do they work??
Post by: Johnny on March 22, 2010, 09:15:52 PM
SillyShilly - I know your original post was back in October, but what was it then that made you sound so hateful of Kippax? I've never used them, but used to play against Peter Kippax at Harrogate where most people had them, and had a mate at Leeds Bradford UCCE who was sponsored by them. Everyone I know who has owned them has held them in quite high esteem