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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: tejasapatel on April 29, 2014, 05:21:15 PM

Title: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: tejasapatel on April 29, 2014, 05:21:15 PM
I searched the forum and wasn't able to find much info about which scuff sheets are the best.

I know the opinions will vary between no scuff sheets to a range of scuff sheets but would like to get a general sense at to what are the best scuff sheets based on your personal experience.

Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: mattw on April 29, 2014, 05:25:12 PM
I find that Helicopter/Self Heal scuff sheets are the best. Offer top protection, not too thick and don't effect the performance.
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: tushar sehgal on April 29, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
Clear scuff sheets that are not too thick are the ones I like
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: tejasapatel on April 29, 2014, 05:41:08 PM

Clear scuff sheets that are not too thick are the ones I like

I got that part based on the two bats I got from you but is there a specific brand that makes them better than others?

Is there a thing called premium clear scuff sheets?

Is there a difference between ones made in England, South Africa or India?
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: tushar sehgal on April 29, 2014, 05:42:28 PM
I got that part based on the two bats I got from you but is there a specific brand that makes them better than others?

Is there a thing called premium clear scuff sheets?

Is there a difference between ones made in England, South Africa or India?

Lol, :o no clue....I would Helicopter or self healing are really good...as to where they are from and how that impacts I have no idea...
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: tejasapatel on April 29, 2014, 06:28:12 PM
Reason behind the thread.

One of my team mates bought an Affinity Carbine based on my recommendation as he wasn't stretched for money and is now asking what type of scuff sheet he should put on.

Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 29, 2014, 09:21:35 PM
My view is  clear anti scuff tends to be thicker and has a greater negative on performance than fibre it also lasts longer.
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: procricket on April 29, 2014, 09:26:32 PM
I know the pro's tend to use the Fiber because of weight issue yet if i use one i like the helicopter ones.

I found my Helicopter one start browning and coming away in India and Australia when i was there.
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: tim2000s on April 29, 2014, 09:31:28 PM
I've been using the GM stuff that vitas have. Seems to be a good compromise. Decent protection, bit not too thick and heavy.

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Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: Chad on April 29, 2014, 10:00:19 PM
I use Helicopter scuff sheet from Bulldog, although would like to experiment on some fibre ones, as they don't add as much weight. Helicopter scuff sheets add anywhere between 12-16g, and toe guards add on 7-12g. There are  28g in an ounce, so essentially, you could have an ounce more wood instead of a scuff and a toe guard. Seeing as an ounce is enough to put people off buying a bat, the weight you can save by using a much lighter scuff and shoe goo instead (Around 2g for shoe goo toe guard) can actually help improve pick up marginally. Pros use them so they can have more wood behind the ball, and probably because they're so thin, that performance isn't really dampened at all. :)

I would say the best at protecting your bat are the Laver ones, as they are pretty thick, and I haven't found them to dampen performance that much really, although I've never tried a Laver without that scuff... If they do dampen performance, then L&W are certainly doing something right in their bat making, since my match stick is a Laver! (And I've had lots of bats pass through my hands)

For an expensive bat like the Carbine, use a clear scuff, so you can show off the grains. :)
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: ogroupleader on April 29, 2014, 10:33:37 PM
The best scuff sheet I have used is the Gray-Nic Extratec. I have these fitted to all of my bats.

Has anyone found a better one?

I have also used Kookaburra scuff sheets that are sold in packs of 2 - worst product you can buy. Avoid. They crack up with every ball you hit and leave residue all over the bat when you remove them.

ND scuff sheets with fibreglass taped edges are ok but they score and mark quite easily.

Woodworm scuff sheets tear on the edges quite easily.

Hammer Edge protects the bat well. I don't mind using it when the bat comes prefitted.

Have had no issues with the Laver anti scuff sheets.

Slazenger anitscuff is a bit thin and susceptible to tearing.

Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: Fearless Fly on April 30, 2014, 12:45:21 AM
All personal preference, i tend to use the Fibretec sheets (full fibre) purely because i think they hold the bat together a bit better. I get them and inbuilt edge (armour tectin AUS) which is the fibre edge and clear face. I Buy mine from India off ebay and they do the trick, haven't had them tear and they are not changing the performance of the bat. These are the same i use for my refurbs.
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: patriotscreen on April 30, 2014, 11:22:19 AM
Helicopter or Hammer edge. Helicopter sheets give better edge protection as Hammer edge sheets stop a couple of mm before the edge of the bat then all you get is fibre tape, however the hammer sheets are thicker and give better protection to the face of the bat.

I use Heli sheets at the moment but will likely switch to hammer sheets once I decide to refurb my bats, maybe mid season.
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: tejasapatel on April 30, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
I use Helicopter scuff sheet from Bulldog, although would like to experiment on some fibre ones, as they don't add as much weight. Helicopter scuff sheets add anywhere between 12-16g, and toe guards add on 7-12g. There are  28g in an ounce, so essentially, you could have an ounce more wood instead of a scuff and a toe guard. Seeing as an ounce is enough to put people off buying a bat, the weight you can save by using a much lighter scuff and shoe goo instead (Around 2g for shoe goo toe guard) can actually help improve pick up marginally. Pros use them so they can have more wood behind the ball, and probably because they're so thin, that performance isn't really dampened at all. :)

I would say the best at protecting your bat are the Laver ones, as they are pretty thick, and I haven't found them to dampen performance that much really, although I've never tried a Laver without that scuff... If they do dampen performance, then L&W are certainly doing something right in their bat making, since my match stick is a Laver! (And I've had lots of bats pass through my hands)

For an expensive bat like the Carbine, use a clear scuff, so you can show off the grains. :)

Great info here Chad. Love reading your posts as they have ample information and are always a good read. Will try to get my hands on some helicopter and Laver sheets.

The best scuff sheet I have used is the Gray-Nic Extratec. I have these fitted to all of my bats.

Thanks for a tip on these. Since I have some old practice bats i can stick them with these along with hammer edge and give them a trial too.


Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: ItsJustCricket on April 30, 2014, 07:18:34 PM
Newbery Hammer Edge for me: http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/cricket-accessories-c24/bat-care-c30/newbery-hammer-edge-sheet-p364 (http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/cricket-accessories-c24/bat-care-c30/newbery-hammer-edge-sheet-p364)

Newbery have these fitted as standard on all their bats and they are our biggest selling brand.  Yet we have had fewer returns from Newbery bats than any other brand.  I don't think it's a coincidence... It's also interesting that your warranty on a Newbery bat is voided if you remove the hammer edge within the warranty period.  They clearly have a lot of confidence in them!
Title: Re: Best Scuff Sheet?
Post by: calvin1mac on May 09, 2014, 01:25:20 PM
I've tried a few now but the only one I use for Bat refurbs and my own bats is the 3M helicopter tape. As I said in a previous link its what Julian Millichamp uses so I reckon he knows his stuff in that area. Every bat I have fitted it to so far had no complaints and its probably better than it needs to be for protecting bats due to its tortion/tearing properties. It's not cheap but as they say you get what you pay for.
I usually trim about an inch off the edge and finish the toe with a drum/belt sander. Again I watched Julian do exactly the same when he was based down in Daylesford, Vic.