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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: tushar sehgal on May 20, 2014, 12:49:59 PM
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Alright folks so after speaking with the bat maker and dicussing getting forum's opinion I bring to you something that I have never seen before!!!
Bat is brand new, Oiled ( 3 light coats over 3 days, 1 coat a day) and then knocked. I rounded the edges first and then the toe, then spent 15 mins on each edge and 15 mins on the toe knocking in. Spent 2 hours on the middle etc. Then I started noticing splinters on the toe develop, at first there was only 1 and then there were more :(...some of them run upto 4 inches in lenght up from the toe and are fairly deep. What would cause this? I have done everything the same as I do on every other bat, cheap or expensive, but never seen this happen before. Could it get worse? Batmaker and I have a different technique to knock bats, he starts in the middle and goes outwards where as I start with the edges and toe and then take care of middle in a circular motion.
Here are some pics that would explain what I am seeing, some of it has developed while the bat sat in the cover after I first noticed it.
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc453/tusharsehgal/Mobile%20Uploads/20140519_110701_zpsaf552c54.jpg) (http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/tusharsehgal/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140519_110701_zpsaf552c54.jpg.html)
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc453/tusharsehgal/Mobile%20Uploads/20140519_110640_zpsdffb3c53.jpg) (http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/tusharsehgal/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140519_110640_zpsdffb3c53.jpg.html)
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc453/tusharsehgal/20140519_164138_zpse3d77a9d.jpg) (http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/tusharsehgal/media/20140519_164138_zpse3d77a9d.jpg.html)
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc453/tusharsehgal/20140519_164140_zpscd0b057f.jpg) (http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/tusharsehgal/media/20140519_164140_zpscd0b057f.jpg.html)
Other side starting to go, this morning there were some in the middle of the toe as well!!
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc453/tusharsehgal/Mobile%20Uploads/20140519_110652_zpsa2d67baf.jpg) (http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/tusharsehgal/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140519_110652_zpsa2d67baf.jpg.html)
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Hmmmmm, that's a very Interesting one,
From looking at It, I think that it might not have been caused by knocking in, can't think of what would cause it though!
(From reading this over, It's quite a pointless post on my behalf :D)
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That last picture looks like the sort of damage that happens when you are hitting the toe of the bat at an angle, like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/5DCq1Ygl.png)
The bat should be struck in the toe area with no angle at all or damage can occur. I learned this the hard way on the first few bats i knocked in.
(http://i.imgur.com/uDpLGesl.png)
That being said, i've never seen the sort of long, splinter type damage shown in the the other pictures.
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Is it possible the bat was too lightly pressed maybe, leaving the softer fibres to break?? (Total guess and no offence intended to the bat maker)
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Has it been wet at all?
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Is it possible the bat was too lightly pressed maybe, leaving the softer fibres to break?? (Total guess and no offence intended to the bat maker)
Hmm interesting points about knocking and pressing. Both were discussed, again it is a softishly pressed bat but I have had similar before.
Interesting point Vitas, I hold the bat like Paul Aldred in the video when knocking the toe so not sure about the angle although I would guess this could have had a few hits off the mallett that were not a 100% perpendicular.
Could this have happened due to me try to round the toe? and then knocking? again I do this to almost all my bats!!
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Has it been wet at all?
No mate brand new, oiled and knocked only, been outside once to take pics so not had a chance to get wet.
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I knocked in about 5 bats this season all of them using the same technique first round and knock in the edges 20-30 mins each side and then knock in the toe for about an hour and 2 hours in the middle.
I've never had this happen, the only thing is that I don't round the toe.
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Rounding the toe doesnt sound right. This could be the cause.
Ive had a fair number off bats now and never rounded one toe yet, edges yes, toe nope.
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I have seen this before it occurred on a fat faced softly pressed bat during knocking in IMO due to the bats edges being squarer.
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Weird if you ask me, shouldn't happen from knocking. Would expect it if a face was removed incorrectly
New bat or free repair required
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I think the bat should be sent back.. this should not happen.
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Sending it back is not really an option as I am in Canada, I was being told that its my knocking in or rounding the toe. Which believe me I have done on almost all my bats and never seen this before, keep in mind rounding the happens naturally as well when you tap the bat on the ground....
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Sending it back is not really an option as I am in Canada, I was being told that its my knocking in or rounding the toe. Which believe me I have done on almost all my bats and never seen this before, keep in mind rounding the happens naturally as well when you tap the bat on the ground....
It looks like it could be a form of de-lamination, but very localised.
Maybe PVA and a scuff sheet. However, a brand new bat shouldn't do that.
Oh, I've knocked in loads of bats and tapping the toe at an angle does loosen (open) the fibers at the base, I've seen that and appreciate Jake's comments earlier, but I've not seen this.
Hope you can get it right.
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Glue it down and sand. Then carry on knocking in. I only see that kind of thing when removing scuff sheets.
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Oil softens/ opens up the fibers off the blade which can cause damage to a softly pressed blade. It's not really that bat to be honest, I'd personally sand the face which will remove the long swallow splinters, finish knocking in and then apply a good quality scuff sheet.