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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: sarg on May 22, 2014, 01:44:53 PM

Title: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 22, 2014, 01:44:53 PM
I have a bat with a really thin handle. I read tonight that a binding weighs less than a grip and I have some twine that will be suitable. Never having attempted this before i hope you can give me a few pointers as ill be doing it by hand. Which end should i start at? What type of knot is used to tie off the twine  near the splice and should I prep the twine with PVA glue?
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: trypewriter on May 22, 2014, 01:51:06 PM
You don't need a knot. Make a good sized 'loop' out of a spare piece of twine and run the last dozen or so turns over the loop before running the twine through the eye of the loop, then pull the loop back under and out of the turns to tighten them before trimming off the tail end of the twine.
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: FattusCattus on May 22, 2014, 02:03:58 PM
Knit one, perl one.
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: mini998 on May 22, 2014, 02:10:05 PM
What kind of twine should be used? and where to buy?
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 22, 2014, 02:15:57 PM
Ideally you need to get traditional cotton binding as it is stronger and easier to work with.
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 22, 2014, 08:21:41 PM
You don't need a knot. Make a good sized 'loop' out of a spare piece of twine and run the last dozen or so turns over the loop before running the twine through the eye of the loop, then pull the loop back under and out of the turns to tighten them before trimming off the tail end of the twine.



Thanks. That make sense and explains why I never see a knot or the end of the twine. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 22, 2014, 11:27:29 PM
Started and progressing well!


(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/u2ematuq)

Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 22, 2014, 11:31:37 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/8y9yjype)


Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 23, 2014, 12:20:27 AM
Tie off and finished binding.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/nu3umu8u)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/epuqe2uq)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/ymy6ydap)


Note: only one overlapping bind and the line broke once...grrr. That said, I used the loop to fix this break and continue binding.

Added a couple of drops of pva to hold the tie under in place. Pretty happy with the result.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/ymusumyv)
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: Buzz on May 23, 2014, 05:58:03 AM
here is my effort..

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Some nice butchers twine, I used tape to hold it while the pva dried...
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 23, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
Actually buzz that's a great way to replace a half grip and not add too much weight.

I did the maths and my twine added 0.7 ounces  vs  1.8 + for a full length grip   

Nb I'm used to metric so apologies if I quote the wrong unit.

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Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: snafu on May 23, 2014, 09:54:32 AM
Hope you put pva underneath the twine!! For the new twine to stick to the original
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: GarrettJ on May 23, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
I think that is the wrong twine, it's too much like that jute material
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: snafu on May 23, 2014, 10:19:14 AM
I dont think the actual jute twine will matter as the original twine is still in place doing its job.
The only thing is if there hasn't been pva put underneath the second layer of twine it will slip around and bunch up.
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 23, 2014, 10:36:59 AM
 Sarg for what it's worth  i agree with Garrettj it looks like the wrong twine  which means you could have problems with the grip.
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: Buzz on May 23, 2014, 10:40:41 AM
Mine is almost certainly the wrong twine too - however I am confident it will do the job required - the string was given a fair amount of pva and is very secure now. I have done it before with no problems too.
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: GarrettJ on May 23, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
You can buy a roll of h4l on ebay
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 23, 2014, 11:06:40 AM
Hmm. Its only meant to thicken the grip for me without stiffening the handle too much. I still have to and a short half grip at the base and a full grip. I've seen some indian bats with as good a job and its a pain to do without being able to spin the bat on its vertical axis.

I didn't PVA the base twine in case I stuffed it up.  I think it will be fine. I can add some watered down PVA with a brush to stop it moving. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: sarg on May 23, 2014, 11:10:15 AM
Actually the most worrying thing about this experience is the (No Swearing Please) blue crocs I caught on camera. Embarrassing!
Title: Re: Double Binding the handle
Post by: AverageCricketer on May 23, 2014, 11:18:57 AM

Actually the most worrying thing about this experience is the (No Swearing Please) blue crocks I caught on camera. Embarrassing!

Crocs are there to wear at home and not in public. That's how I use them