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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: The Palmist on May 28, 2014, 09:12:46 AM
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Is it possible to have a bat with a hitting area which starts from just under the stickers and goes all the way to the toe?
The bat has to be a normal size bat. Not a mmi3 etc.
If possible what’s the lightest weight it can be?
What will be the downsides of having such a bat?
And more importantly, has anyone got one of these?
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Any bat that is pressed optimally should be all middle
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If it is a good bat, it will ping everywhere. Just get a mid middle bat, with a spine running from the handle through to the toe you should be fine. Or you can get it custom made and see for yourself :)
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If it is a good bat, it will ping everywhere. Just get a mid middle bat, with a spine running from the handle through to the toe you should be fine. Or you can get it custom made and see for yourself :)
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You are getting in to the technical definition of "middle" here. Is not possible to have a bat that feels like you have a middle all the way through the bat due to the way vibrational nodes work. This doesn't mean you couldn't have an optimally pressed bat where the ball might travel as though it had been hit from the middle at any point on the bat, but that pressing would be tricky.
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Surely the term 'middle' means the obsolute optimum area on the bat, rather than just a spot where the ball rebounds fairly well.
That does seem to be changing on here though, when I heard bats being described as having a middle that goes from the splice to the toe and edge to edge!
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laminate......
the toe on mine is as good as the middle on some of my bats!
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By an all middle bat, do you mean that it would perform the same way from stickers until toe? You can get one, but if the middle is good as the toe and the splice, the middle itself won't be great.
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yet to find a bat that pings off the toe or splice, impossible to create i would imagine.
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following my coaching thread, i'd say you're better off spending £200 on 4 hours of coaching to teach you how to hit the middle of the bat more often, rather than £200 on a bat that's all middle :)
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100% agree with Rich
having more than 2/3 bats is ludicrous (unless its sort of a hobby like collecting stamps or star wars figures) and the £300 for a bat would get you to use the edge a little less often and make your current bat feel a lot better
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my match bat is a thing of beauty, now it's been refurbished by Ryan. i think i bought it from Tim, so thanks for that! ;)
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By an all middle bat, do you mean that it would perform the same way from stickers until toe? You can get one, but if the middle is good as the toe and the splice, the middle itself won't be great.
That's what I meant but what you are saying sounds like an all Toe bat and no middle :-)
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having a middle that goes from the splice to the toe and edge to edge!
That will do nicely.
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I saw a bat that pinge the same accross the whole blade, it was £9.99 from sport direct and whatever bit you used, middle, toe, edge or splice it wouldn't go off the square!
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Aren't the Mongoose bats (including ToRQ) advertised as all middle bats with their spliceless technology?Although I don't think it's possible to have a bat that is all middle.
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You are getting in to the technical definition of "middle" here. Is not possible to have a bat that feels like you have a middle all the way through the bat due to the way vibrational nodes work. This doesn't mean you couldn't have an optimally pressed bat where the ball might travel as though it had been hit from the middle at any point on the bat, but that pressing would be tricky.
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It is not possible to create such a bat with the limitations that have been placed on cricket bat construction. The reason the vibration nodes are classed as the bat's sweetspot/s is because for impacts at these points vibration and torque are minimal. The more vibration and/or torque that occurs during impact the more energy is lost or not transferred back to the ball. The reason shots lack power outside the sweetspot is because you have so much loss of energy due to increased vibration / torque.
The same principles apply to other bat/racquet sports. Increasing the stability of the bat would increase sweetspot size because we are reducing torque. Tas inserts work on this principle. A lot of the technologies that we have seen in the tennis industry over the last 20 years focus on increasing sweetspot size my minimizing torque . This is something that racquet companies spend a lot of money on and requires the latest in materials technology.
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There are also theoretical things that could be done with shape to manage vibrational propagation, but these would be likely to affect the balance of the bat significantly.
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You can score runs off any part of any bat, ergo all bats are all middle.
It also goes that you can get out no matter where you hit the ball on a bat so every bat is a plank. >:(
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No. Don't be stupid :)
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No. Don't be stupid :)
Sorry, it's the beer talking :-[
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You are getting in to the technical definition of "middle" here. Is not possible to have a bat that feels like you have a middle all the way through the bat due to the way vibrational nodes work. This doesn't mean you couldn't have an optimally pressed bat where the ball might travel as though it had been hit from the middle at any point on the bat, but that pressing would be tricky.
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Are optimally pressed bats available on the market ?