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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: i12breakfree on May 30, 2014, 02:59:14 AM

Title: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: i12breakfree on May 30, 2014, 02:59:14 AM
Received a new bat from UK batmaker and i noticed this bump/bulge right in the middle of the blade face. Here are couple of pics :
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/5E8C7470-A39F-49EF-8972-1FBE50E2DBC5_zpsbznpqncj.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/5E8C7470-A39F-49EF-8972-1FBE50E2DBC5_zpsbznpqncj.jpg.html)

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/9100B979-89DE-4B57-B99A-C44F49B47165_zps8flny4w6.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/9100B979-89DE-4B57-B99A-C44F49B47165_zps8flny4w6.jpg.html)

There is a small knot on the edge and that is where the bulge on the face starts at. Its easily visible and can be felt by touching the bat face.
Should this be a cause for any concern ? 
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: skip1973 on May 30, 2014, 03:07:24 AM
No it's not a concern, it's raised slightly because the knot is harder than the rest of the willow.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: procricket on May 30, 2014, 06:36:12 AM
It called a hardbar mate and if you notice it is normally stiffer and should actually play better off there the good people at b3 have taught me well about willow.

It will have been selected that way round to have the hardbar centrally like that too.

Many of our proffesional players have them around that area because of there known rebound qualities
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: fasteddie on May 30, 2014, 06:43:12 AM
It called a hardbar mate and if you notice it is normally stiffer and should actually play better off there the good people at b3 have taught me well about willow.

It will have been selected that way round to have the hardbar centrally like that too.

Many of our proffesional players have them around that area because of there known rebound qualities

Good insight.

I knocked in three bats recently with this. The 'bar' was right in the middle. No matter how hard I hit it, it didn't budge. The rebound was very good indeed. It does sound different, but you'll know when you've got one out of the screws.

You've done well there. 
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: WillyorWonty on May 30, 2014, 07:56:21 AM
It called a hardbar mate and if you notice it is normally stiffer and should actually play better off there the good people at b3 have taught me well about willow.

It will have been selected that way round to have the hardbar centrally like that too.

Many of our proffesional players have them around that area because of there known rebound qualities

Really? I was always told that a knot is good for the toe but very bad in the face because it doesn't give the spring needed. In which would I be better off looking for a B3 with lots of knots in the face rather than a clean one?
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: Neon Cricket on May 30, 2014, 08:18:54 AM
He means the knot in the side, so that you get the 'hardbar' on the face
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: smilley792 on May 30, 2014, 08:27:55 AM
lad at our club bought a gm argon with this, and did nothing but moan, as when knocking in it was hard, and wouldnt compress, he then spent 3month moaning, refusing to use it and trying to sell it as hed been sold a dude(even though he hand picked it himself)

to shut him up our opener, just went out to bat with it, and got 119. funnilly enough, he then wouldnt sell it the opener, and has used it since scoring lots of runs.

it may cause you a psychological issue at first, but my advice is just use it, crack on, and you will soon forgot you had issue.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: Number4 on May 30, 2014, 08:41:03 AM
Wow another type of performance willow... Wonder what grade that would make it A+k? The industries best kept secret maybe? Willow for the pro only maybe
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: tim2000s on May 30, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
lad at our club bought a gm argon with this, and did nothing but moan, as when knocking in it was hard, and wouldnt compress, he then spent 3month moaning, refusing to use it and trying to sell it as hed been sold a dude(even though he hand picked it himself)

to shut him up our opener, just went out to bat with it, and got 119. funnilly enough, he then wouldnt sell it the opener, and has used it since scoring lots of runs.

it may cause you a psychological issue at first, but my advice is just use it, crack on, and you will soon forgot you had issue.
Much like butterfly willow really....
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: procricket on May 30, 2014, 08:47:05 AM
He means the knot in the side, so that you get the 'hardbar' on the face

Exactly I do not look for knots on my bats but look for hardbars across the face and if you look at most bats they will have them in certain degrees.



Clean nice blades  and straight grains are for looking at. I just prefer bats that go and I could show you the hard bar on  my butterfly and that flys.

More grains tend to make the bat stiffer so it goes better from the off too.

I may have miss heard stuff or taken the wrong way but practically I have seen my bats go well and there not all grade 1 mate.

I would of though that bat goes well from that raised area  it not a grade either for anybody either sarcasm is not a great quality mate
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: Number4 on May 30, 2014, 09:47:50 AM
Received a new bat from UK batmaker and i noticed this bump/bulge right in the middle of the blade face. Here are couple of pics :
([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/5E8C7470-A39F-49EF-8972-1FBE50E2DBC5_zpsbznpqncj.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/5E8C7470-A39F-49EF-8972-1FBE50E2DBC5_zpsbznpqncj.jpg.html[/url])

([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/9100B979-89DE-4B57-B99A-C44F49B47165_zps8flny4w6.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/9100B979-89DE-4B57-B99A-C44F49B47165_zps8flny4w6.jpg.html[/url])

There is a small knot on the edge and that is where the bulge on the face starts at. Its easily visible and can be felt by touching the bat face.
Should this be a cause for any concern ?


Do we get go know the brand? :D
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: MD2812 on May 30, 2014, 10:16:41 AM
Do we get go know the brand? :D

You mean you can't tell from the photo?

Clearly this is an Indian made TK with Xtrax 6000 applied evenly to the face! It was originally for Sachin but he retired so it was going spare.

 :D
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: brokenbat on May 30, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
no need to worry - the ball should really spring off that area.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: procricket on May 30, 2014, 10:33:56 AM
Wow another type of performance willow... Wonder what grade that would make it A+k? The industries best kept secret maybe? Willow for the pro only maybe

No secret mate and in all types of willow more you look at williow the more you see and understand. It also helps having a good teacher  who knows a thing or two about willow teaching you.

Seen as i have seen and knocked in quite a few proffesional players bats going out in both our branding and not i can tell you quite a few have these and as i knock in a I can tell you the area is stiffer and plays better in my opinion.

But as a trainee maybe the Doctor will come on and explain.


Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: Kulli on May 30, 2014, 10:50:59 AM
Whenever I've seen them they've only ever been to hard and dead.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: amritpremi on May 30, 2014, 10:51:35 AM
I have definitely seen that ... (hardbar) on my L&W classic profile bat, and right in the area too, between middle & toe end of the bat.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: tushar sehgal on May 30, 2014, 12:13:52 PM
Amit, I have had this on my RPC. You can knock it as much as you want but it will always be higher then the rest of the face. I have not noticed any gain or loss in performance due to it though, nothing to worry about as long as it is not falling apart in the knocking in phase...
Title: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: i12breakfree on May 30, 2014, 12:14:14 PM
Do we get go know the brand? :D

For now I can say its one of the forum sponsors

If it was from the Xtrax family then it would have been sold as bats with XBar :)

The bat does have a nice ping. Just wanted to make sure that hardbar will not cause any bat breakage.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: Vitas Cricket on May 30, 2014, 12:21:21 PM
Received a new bat from UK batmaker and i noticed this bump/bulge right in the middle of the blade face. Here are couple of pics :
([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/5E8C7470-A39F-49EF-8972-1FBE50E2DBC5_zpsbznpqncj.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/5E8C7470-A39F-49EF-8972-1FBE50E2DBC5_zpsbznpqncj.jpg.html[/url])

([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/9100B979-89DE-4B57-B99A-C44F49B47165_zps8flny4w6.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/9100B979-89DE-4B57-B99A-C44F49B47165_zps8flny4w6.jpg.html[/url])

There is a small knot on the edge and that is where the bulge on the face starts at. Its easily visible and can be felt by touching the bat face.
Should this be a cause for any concern ?


No need to worry at all, i've seen it many times when knocking bats in, that area will not compress when knocking in (it is raised because the press cannot level it off so we will have little chance with a mallet) but its very hard/strong so won't cause any issues.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: Fearless Fly on May 30, 2014, 12:39:47 PM
I do hope james is not reading this he'll probably launch an X-Bar cover as god forbid should anyone see a Hardbar on a bat!
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: WillyorWonty on May 30, 2014, 12:40:59 PM
Thats what I was always told, harder, stronger but not a performance aid. Was shown to look down the face of a bat and reject anything with lumps or bumps in, obviously we're talking top end as they are found more in lower end bats.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: Dan W on May 30, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
If it's what I think it is (I can't see pics behind work firewall) mine wasn't a good story - The area of the pin was hard as nails though the rest of the wood was softer and after a couple of innings the ridge became more and more apparent (as the area above and below became naturally dented) to the point at which the bits immediately above and below started having chunks and dents taken out of them. Wasn't a pretty sight/experience an the batmaker offered a full refund.
Title: Re: Slight bump/bulge on the face of the bat
Post by: sarg on May 30, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
Ive got one of those on the middle of one of my bats. Makes the bat sound deeper in tone when hit. Initially o thought it was a dud. I've also given the bat loads of knocking to try to loosen it. Thanks for the info, might help me to sell it.