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Title: If only I had known the law
Post by: Steveo1000 on June 03, 2014, 03:28:50 PM
So, 2 weeks ago after making a solid start to my innings I top edged one off a spinner straight into the keepers helmet. It popped up and was caught by 1st slip.
Umpire gave me out and despite me thinking that something wasn't quite right I took my punishment and walked off to a chorus of unlucky mate from both the opposition and my own team mates.
Finally got round to checking this and it turns out you can't be given out if the ball firsts strikes a helmet being worn by a fielder including the keeper.
Can't really blame the umpires as I wasn't sure and another 21 blokes clearly didn't know the law either.
Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: TangoWhiskey on June 03, 2014, 03:31:15 PM
I did know about the law for protected close fielders, but I was under the impression that the keeper's lid didn't count...
Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: Vitas Cricket on June 03, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
I once had a guy stumped after the ball smashed back off my grille and onto the top of the bails. for a split second i thought 'that isn't out is it?' and then everyone starting celebrating, umpire gave it out so i just went with it.

Never actually checked the law myself though, interesting. I hope the unlucky batsmen isn't reading it!
Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: Kieron_BT on June 03, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
Don't really see the difference between it hitting an helmet and being caught of say the wicket keepers pads? If it hadn't have hit is helmet it would have hit his head. If anything the wicket keepers pads will be spongier (even a word?) so will bounce more to take a catch whereas an helmet won't?
Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: MD2812 on June 03, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Is someone able to quote the laws of the game on this?

I was under the impression that a wicket keepers helmet was allowed, close fielders was dead ball?
Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: Steveo1000 on June 03, 2014, 03:58:10 PM
From law 32

Basically the law doesn't differentiate between a fielder and a keeper. They are all classed as fielders.

However, it is not a fair catch if at any time after having been struck by the bat and before a catch is completed the ball has touched a protective helmet worn by a fielder.

Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: Steveo1000 on June 03, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Is someone able to quote the laws of the game on this?

I was under the impression that a wicket keepers helmet was allowed, close fielders was dead ball?
Turns out it wouldn't be a dead ball either as the ball remains in play. So you can't be caught or stumped but you can be run out if you attempt a run.
Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: Manormanic on June 03, 2014, 06:06:41 PM
yes, the stumping is fine, but the ball is deemed to have been grounded by contact with the lid.
Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: tim2000s on June 03, 2014, 08:36:11 PM
If you think about it, had the ball hit the guy's head, it wouldn't have rebounded so far and he'd have been on the floor...

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Title: Re: If only I had known the law
Post by: Steveo1000 on June 03, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
yes, the stumping is fine, but the ball is deemed to have been grounded by contact with the lid.
Nope, the stumping is not fine

(i) rebounds on to the stumps from any part of the wicket-keeper’s person or equipment other than a protective helmet,

Seems no one really knows the law which makes me feel better.