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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: Khalil Y on June 20, 2014, 12:18:39 PM
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Bought this bat and was told it had a minor crack however after taking scuff off there are a few grains lifting and also there is a chunk of wood missing and want to try repairing it have attached pictures
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Sent it back, that has to be the biggest 'minor crack' I've ever seen...
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Haha ditto however with some negotiation bat has ended costing me around £30 and having tested with mallet it has a nice ping so am just gonna keep it
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For the edge you could mix wood filler with an epoxy glue into a paste apply to edge build up edge till it is proud and leave for 24 hours to cure the more wood filler you use in the mixture the harder the finished edge will be once the mixture as cured by sand by hand for a smooth edge. For the face apply undiluted PVA glue apply pressure with a weight over a towel and leave to set. Remove all residue and bind all repairs tightly with fibreglass tape.
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For the edge you could mix wood filler with an epoxy glue into a paste apply to edge build up edge till it is proud and leave for 24 hours to cure the more wood filler you use in the mixture the harder the finished edge will be once the mixture as cured by sand by hand for a smooth edge. For the face apply undiluted PVA glue apply pressure with a weight over a towel and leave to set. Remove all residue and bind all repairs tightly with fibreglass tape.
The items you mentioned would these be available at any DIY store as never done a repair before.
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Yes you can get all items from a DIY outlet or order on line you could try Ronseal wood filler and Araidite glue the glue needs to be mixed with its hardener which comes with it before being mixed with the Wood filler there are videos on Line showing how to use these products when you apply the mixture to the edge of the bat you will need to allow the 1st layer to start to cure (dry ) before you apply the next layer Good Luck.
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Thanks for you're advice I'll see what I can do and will update thread
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I'm about to glue the face and was wondering is it not better if I water the glue down a bit so it can get into all nooks and crannies?
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If you are using PVA Yes you can dilute it but it will take a little longer to dry.
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Have already applied it now undiluted not sure if it will seep all the way but have used a grip to hold it together and left it at an angle so gravity can do some work
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When you remove the grips if there are gaps repeat the process as you have identified with watered down glue also it may be worth placing the bat horizontal on its spine with a cloth under each edge to keep the blade level.
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Ok will do, I'm going to leave it till tomorrow and the remove the bands
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Glue has dried and have sanded it down next step is wood filler and epoxy.
Ordered aldarite online so hopefully get that tomorrow.
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You'd be better off getting it repaired professionally, i'd cut out the willow around the area, square it off amd glue in a new bit a bit of willow. That would look better and prolong the lifespan.
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You're probably right but just thought I'll try my hand at it and see how it goes, it's hardly going to get much use as have so many bleeding bats.
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Missing chunk has been filled, sanded and bat oiled, now will fibre edges up and hopefully will hold together.
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What's in it .... Looks like chewing gum that's gone hard
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Ronseal wood filler mixed with Aldarite epoxy.
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What's in it .... Looks like chewing gum that's gone hard
Bit of tape covering it and nobody will ever know! ;)
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Nice effort. Good bats, those Mjolnirs. I should know ;)
Is this pedantic, but shouldn't bat blades be 100% willow (barring tape and scuff sheets)?
This is more than a simple repair; it's replacing willow with a 'foreign' material. Is it technically legal?
Can't see anyone getting in a fuss about it, but it raises an interesting question about how far can a repair can go before it's deemed to have gone too far.
I imagine there's some obscure law about ratio of 'foreign material' to willow...
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Nice effort. Good bats, those Mjolnirs. I should know ;)
Is this pedantic, but shouldn't bat blades be 100% willow (barring tape and scuff sheets)?
This is more than a simple repair; it's replacing willow with a 'foreign' material. Is it technically legal?
Can't see anyone getting in a fuss about it, but it raises an interesting question about how far can a repair can go before it's deemed to have gone too far.
I imagine there's some obscure law about ratio of 'foreign material' to willow...
So the glue used isn't technically allowed by the laws of the game?
Hadn't thought of that before but you posting about being pedantic made me more pedantic! :D
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I think it's a good fix and hope you get a good season out of it.
The key here is how strong the bond is with the wood inside the cavity and whether it will prevent the crack inside opening up more. The Epoxy filler should be stronger than the surrounding wood, so if it cracks again it can only be the surrounding wood that lets go. Post pics when that happens too ;)
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Nice effort. Good bats, those Mjolnirs. I should know ;)
Is this pedantic, but shouldn't bat blades be 100% willow (barring tape and scuff sheets)?
This is more than a simple repair; it's replacing willow with a 'foreign' material. Is it technically legal?
Can't see anyone getting in a fuss about it, but it raises an interesting question about how far can a repair can go before it's deemed to have gone too far.
I imagine there's some obscure law about ratio of 'foreign material' to willow...
You wanted to get technical.
According to law six, you cannot use filler to repair a bat. The only material permitted for insertion is wood plus minimal adhesives to hold the wood in place. Now it doesn't define wood, so if you were to take, say a mixture of 51% wood shavings (technically "wood") and 49% PVA or epoxy, which is the minimum required to hold the "wood" in place, and mix them together to create a filler like substance, as you do with gaps between floorboards, I think you'd be fine.
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I think it's a good fix and hope you get a good season out of it.
The key here is how strong the bond is with the wood inside the cavity and whether it will prevent the crack inside opening up more. The Epoxy filler should be stronger than the surrounding wood, so if it cracks again it can only be the surrounding wood that lets go. Post pics when that happens too ;)
Won't be getting much use but gonna try it out on one of the weekends to see how it performs
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You wanted to get technical.
According to law six, you cannot use filler to repair a bat. The only material permitted for insertion is wood plus minimal adhesives to hold the wood in place. Now it doesn't define wood, so if you were to take, say a mixture of 51% wood shavings (technically "wood") and 49% PVA or epoxy, which is the minimum required to hold the "wood" in place, and mix them together to create a filler like substance, as you do with gaps between floorboards, I think you'd be fine.
Hmmmm. I get your drift. But I imagine that the authorities would at the very least insist that the 'wood' needs to be solid - not shavings.
Otherwise taking it to its logical conclusion, I imagine manufacturers would long ago have come up with some willow shaving/elastic epoxy resin hybrid blade that could send the ball miles.
Interesting, though.
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Hmmmm. I get your drift. But I imagine that the authorities would at the very least insist that the 'wood' needs to be solid - not shavings.
Otherwise taking it to its logical conclusion, I imagine manufacturers would long ago have come up with some willow shaving/elastic epoxy resin hybrid blade that could send the ball miles.
Interesting, though.
They couldn't under the rules. What I stated was the Law 6 piece relating to repair of the bat. In clause 4, "The Blade", it states that the blade shall consist solely of wood. This completely removes the optionality of being able to use some form of hybrid.
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Considering the state the bat was in that looks an excellent repair especially so as this was the 1st time you have worked with materials or carried out this type of repair previously.