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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: WalkingWicket37 on June 30, 2014, 01:33:18 PM
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/28085871 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/28085871)
Part of me thinks this is great, another isn't so sure.
What does everyone else think??
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Pink balls - couldn't be happier right now
Personally I think its a good idea, imagine if the England/Sri Lanka games had been day/night - I'm sure a large number of those empty seats would've been filled
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I like the idea. Gives cricket something new, that could lead to more people, especially younger people taking up the sport.
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The problem with day-night tests is finding a ball that would suit it. When that problem is solved, then day night tests will thrive
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Would love being able to finish work and settle into some test cricket but I read a Pietersen column on this a while back and kind of agree with him that with the pink ball behaving totally differently to the red, and the effect of the lights, they'd have to come up with a whole new set of statistics for day/night tests and treat it as a completely different format.
While a KP statement might be easy to diregard, there is plenty of other pro's with the opinion that the pink ball is currently too batsman friendly and I certainly wouldn't want test statistics to become squeued after the intro of day/night tests.
For me that would really detract from the romanticism of the game but hopefully they can find a way to make the pink ball behave just as the red ball would in which case i see no problem at all.
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The quality of the pink ball even at club level has improved dramatically over the past few years. The tiflex magna at roughly £12 is a ball we sell a lot, in red and pink. Many forum members seem very happy with the pink ones.
I'm sure for a test match level (and price) ball, the manufacturers can't be too far away now.
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I can't see it working in this country, don't think we have the weather for it. We can get away with the T20bash, but the conditions would have too much of an impact on a test, there's probably only a handful of venues globally where it would work.
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Stupid question alert!
Why not just use a red ball?? :-[
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The single biggest problem in the UK is dew. Imagine playing test matches constantly on pitches where there has been drizzle and you've got the effect on the outfield.
It would cause huge issues.
With regard to the ball, lighting the sightscreens would go a long way to making it easier to play test matches in the dark.
The issue with balls is picking a red ball out of the crowd/sky when the light is low. It's hard enough seeing a white ball against the trees in Regent's Park late in the evening. A red ball would be nigh on impossible.
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Hate the pink balls, are like concrete but feel light as, very difficult to describe them, hate fielding with them as they are so hard!
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Stupid question alert!
Why not just use a red ball?? :-[
I seem to recall a fairly infamous occasion on England's tour to NZ in 2002 when in one of the tests they carried on playing under floodlights (and a red ball) long into the evening to make up playing time and while Nathan Astle was able to see well enough to smash the ball around thanks to the sightscreens, England fielders couldn't see a thing and were almost hit on a few occasions, it was pretty farcical. So that's surely why.
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Stupid question alert!
Why not just use a red ball?? :-[
Visibility issues.
A round of the Sheffield Shield was played under lights last season, to some not bad results, Kook used these balls from the matches examined how they reacted and got to work on improvements in the pink ball, Same is being done again this season in Shield cricket. The ball should have had a really good run out by then, shouldn't be too much of a problem imo.
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There is an article on cricinfo which pertains to this, about how the majority of the players weren't happy with how the balls responded. Apparently they don't swing, seam, or reverse and become soft too quickly, proving for pretty dull cricket as it isn't troubling the batsmans' wicket, yet it is too soft to score at any great rate.
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Hate the pink balls, are like concrete but feel light as, very difficult to describe them, hate fielding with them as they are so hard!
This is the pink ball of old (and to be fair the cheap pink ball is still like this)
The newer ones i am referring to are very comparable to a decent quality red ball. Kookaburra do one around £20 i believe, the Tiflex Magna is available in pink around £12 as well as in more expensive Tiflex models.
I know what you mean in your description of the pink ball, and many times i have played with such a ball, but they aren't all like that now, just the cheap ones.
This is all for club level cricket of course. Professionals have a different set of thoughts/requirements and i am sure their input is helping to get the elite level pink ball where it needs to be.
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I'm sure for a test match level (and price) ball, the manufacturers can't be too far away now.
Out of interest, how much is a test match level Dukes ball?
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Out of interest, how much is a test match level Dukes ball?
The Kookaburra Turf Ball is over £100 to me i believe. I don't know for sure as it isn't on the standard retail price list
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/756487.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/756487.html)
Doesn't read well for pink ball enthusiasts