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Equipment => Bats => Reviews => Topic started by: shoab68 on July 02, 2014, 11:56:33 AM
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Hi Guys,
So after a months delay finally i got my custom made Rubber insert laminated bat from Chase cricket. After experimenting glued laminates I wanted to test Rubber insert laminate and following Dave(procricket) advice i placed my order with chase cricket.
I will do a brief review about service and Bat.
Service
Daniel at chase is a very busy man, hardly he gets time to reply emails which is really annoying. 2 weeks turnaround was promised but they took 6 weeks to make my bat.
Overall their service is very slow if not poor.
Bat
I requested Daniel to make me a Rubber inserted laminate as per following specs.
Willow: Grade 2
Weight: 2.10 to max 2.12
Edges : I requested 42-45 mm
Other specs: Rest i left it to Daniel
I received the bat with dead weight of 2.10, bat is well made and the stickers looks classy, the disappointing thing is the 36 mm edge size against the requested minimum 42mm.
Bat has a great trampoline effect as you'd expect from a rubber insert laminate, balance and pickup is fantastic. Handle is Oval and looks good quality.
Overall impressed with the bat.
Will upload pics tonight, i know the forum rule, no pics not happened but please give me few hours.
Thanks for your attention and all queries welcomed.
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I think an edge size of that magnitude is quite a big ask in all honesty so you may have been made something thats within the realms of being realistic without having a cleft thats over-dried in terms of moisture content.
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42mm is not that big. Mine has edges that size, and it weighs 2lb 10oz, with two kook xtreme grips, scuff sheet and edge tape. I'm sure you can get those edges on a bat that is 2lb 12oz, especially as the amount of concaving wasn't specified. With the right profile and wood density, it isn't that hard even on a non-laminate. Look at Kippax, they are doing 50mm edges on 2lb 8oz bats!
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All depends how dense and how much rubber there is in the bat really. If its an enormouse dense piece of rubber then they've probably done pretty well to get the edges that big.
And the Kippax bats are that big because they don't have a spine! They're pretty much reversible.
Look forward to the pics.
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Sorry but this is just wrong, I don't think these laminates should be allowed in any level of cricket.
what's next? Spring inserted laminates? I'll be very crossed if an oppo player used one of these against us.
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Sorry but this is just wrong, I don't think these laminates should be allowed in any level of cricket.
what's next? Spring inserted laminates? I'll be very crossed if an oppo player used one of these against us.
Meh. I doubt he'll suddenly get a test call up (actually he might!) because all of a sudden he's scoring billions of runs. He's still got to hit the ball just like anyone else.
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No need to score billions of runs to get unfair advantage in a match , extra 10-20 runs can change the result of a match, that's all I care, not worried about his potential test call up for the guy.
if he us getting no advantage and he still have to hit the ball what's the need to go thus length to make rubber inserted bats?
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No need to score billions of runs to get unfair advantage in a match , extra 10-20 runs can change the result of a match, that's all I care, not worried about his potential test call up for the guy.
if he us getting no advantage and he still have to hit the ball what's the need to go thus length to make rubber inserted bats?
And he hasn't even mentioned his jet propelled batting spikes!
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Yes, we all agree it's an illegal bat that should only ever be used in the nets, however, aren't you just a tiny bit curious as to how well it works? I know I am. And as to what it looks like.
Roll it on, show us the pics!
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Would love to see pics but i have to agree with others, i hope he only uses this in the nets. I know in our AUS comp that someone came out to bat with one of the carbon kookaburras from years ago and he was told to change his bat. Never understood the whole laminated thing. does someone wish to explain to me why it is done as you done see many for sale in AUS
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I'm intrigued as to how much rubber is actually in the bat.
Is it just a thin sheet under the surface or is it basically a rubber block with a willow casing?
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Carbon kookaburras are fine at club level aren't they?? I thought you could use them until they were dead.
As for a lam, who plays in a league where the umpires would:
A) be able to spot one?
B) do anything about it?
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Yes, I'm curious to see how it goes too - but only in the nets or mucking about with one out on the pitch.
Laminates are an unfair advantage of bat over ball, pure and simple. They shouldn't be permitted in any form of cricket.
Anyone who intends to pass off a laminate as a legal bat should take a long hard look at themselves, frankly.
Besides, using anything other than pure willow is against the Laws of cricket.
I don't know why we're even having the discussion.
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No need to score billions of runs to get unfair advantage in a match , extra 10-20 runs can change the result of a match, that's all I care, not worried about his potential test call up for the guy.
if he us getting no advantage and he still have to hit the ball what's the need to go thus length to make rubber inserted bats?
Trust me, if it increases his average by even 10 runs then I'll pay for it myself. It's not going to make a blind bit of difference.
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Carbon kookaburras are fine at club level aren't they?? I thought you could use them until they were dead.
As for a lam, who plays in a league where the umpires would:
A) be able to spot one?
B) do anything about it?
I think they are legal but this umpire was adamant that the bloke was gaining an unfair advantage, he needed all the help he could get...nicked off 3rd ball!
You woulnt be able to spot a Lam, the carbon were easy to spot as they had the full length artwork on the back. Still think the Lam is cheating but hope it serves him well
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Trust me, if it increases his average by even 10 runs then I'll pay for it myself. It's not going to make a blind bit of difference.
You are missing the point , why not use willow coated rubber bats?
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Carbon kookaburras are fine at club level aren't they?? I thought you could use them until they were dead.
As for a lam, who plays in a league where the umpires would:
A) be able to spot one?
B) do anything about it?
a - no, as most league umpires can't even see the other end of the pitch
b - no, as they prefer to bleat on about the over rate or the quality of the tea
Some bats are allowed to be used until they die - carbon kooks, cheating handle newbery's / puma etc. Lammy's have been banned for a lot longer and you certainly can't use one in a competitive match, a friendly possibly and netting yes.
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a - no, as most league umpires can't even see the other end of the pitch
b - no, as they prefer to bleat on about the over rate or the quality of the tea
Some bats are allowed to be used until they die - carbon kooks, cheating handle newbery's / puma etc. Lammy's have been banned for a lot longer and you certainly can't use one in a competitive match, a friendly possibly and netting yes.
If you cant use them, why do bat makers produce them? I know custom request but what bat make would want to be a part of something like this
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If you cant use them, why do bat makers produce them? I know custom request but what bat make would want to be a part of something like this
Demand and supply
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If you cant use them, why do bat makers produce them? I know custom request but what bat make would want to be a part of something like this
One that has his business head on - if there's a demand for them then why not make them? Its up to the customer whether he uses the bat just in nets or in an actual game. For Chase its the difference of them making it or someone else inevitably doing it - they're throwing away free money by saying no at the end of the day
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If you cant use them, why do bat makers produce them? I know custom request but what bat make would want to be a part of something like this
One who is interested in seeing what can be done with the materials may be? There is nothing saying a batmaker can't make one, just that a player can't use it.
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Yeah i understand the demand and supply and throwing away money but if they are meant to abide by the laws of cricket... dont here of any in AUS so must be a market in the UK
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The bat makers don't have to abide by anything, there isn't a law against making the bats, just using them. If the bat maker fancies testing out a new idea/design they why not!
Don't see the issue with them personally, at the end of the day it won't make a blind bit of difference in a game unless you're a top level player timing the poop out of every ball faced anyway - I wouldn't use one but I wouldn't kick off if I saw someone using one (and I have seen many)
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The bat makers don't have to abide by anything, there isn't a law against making the bats, just using them. If the bat maker fancies testing out a new idea/design they why not!
Don't see the issue with them personally, at the end of the day it won't make a blind bit of difference in a game unless you're a top level player timing the poop out of every ball faced anyway - I wouldn't use one but I wouldn't kick off if I saw someone using one (and I have seen many)
I think the rubber wood make a huge difference as opposed to a normal lam.
Is like a company that was around during the 80's and 90's in QLD, AUS that had cork through the bat, they were gems even 30 years after production. Would rubber not have the same effect as cork did?
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Hasn't this point already been proven with the Skyer? Rubber makes the ball go further.
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Yeah i understand the demand and supply and throwing away money but if they are meant to abide by the laws of cricket... dont here of any in AUS so must be a market in the UK
Haven't heard of Callen??? CJI??? Plenty in Aus... Most don't know what they are though
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Sometimes I spot them being used in matches and say to the player is that a lam you are using just to let him know that myself and others are aware of what he is upto. IMO the production of lams should be made illegal.
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Haven't heard of Callen??? CJI??? Plenty in Aus... Most don't know what they are though
Callen are not based in My state and have only seen 1 Callen in the flesh,
I know they are in Aus but where i am you dont see many being sold
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IMO the production of lams should be made illegal.
Thank God some shares my view
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IMO the production of lams should be made illegal.
What and you'll throw whoever makes a Lam in prison?
Think we might need some perspective here......
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Sometimes I spot them being used in matches and say to the player is that a lam you are using just to let him know that myself and others are aware of what he is upto. IMO the production of lams should be made illegal.
Agreed, I don't buy the bat maker is innocent and just making money, in that case so is a doctor subscribing steroids to an athlete (taken to the nth degree). They know the product they are making is not a suitable product and the user is seeking an unfair advantage.
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Think thats a bit extreme, just ban like they have with carbon handles, cork blades etc
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under the laws fo cricket they are illegal
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Three pages in and there's been about 3 points made.
To summarise for those who don't want to read it all the opinions are:
1) Lams are illegal
2) nobody seems to know/care if Lams are used in games (but if someone does well against you using one it's down to the bat!)
3) people think you should go to prison for making Lams!
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I used my lam in a game(was only bat I was willing to get wet that day).
I scored 8 as I missed a straight one.
Should I be expecting the police to call?
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I don't think anyone stated the punishment only that it's not legal, but while we're at it.
3) Hanging ;)
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I used my lam in a game(was only bat I was willing to get wet that day).
I scored 8 as I missed a straight one.
Should I be expecting the police to call?
No but you should be safe in the knowledge that the eight you scored would have been a duck if you were not using a lam. ???
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Using a banned product is illegal but manufacturing it is not...anyways would love to see the pics and a complete review of the performace.
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I might as well make an 8 inch wide(or maybe wider) bat with lighter wood (or may be use light rubber, cos it's ok) so I can use it when we need to block out for a draw.
Can't put in prison or shouldn't worry about police calls cos they are okay.
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I might as well make an 8 inch wide(or maybe wider) bat with lighter wood (or may be use light rubber, cos it's ok) so I can use it when we need to block out for a draw.
Can't put in prison or shouldn't worry about police calls cos they are okay.
No that's different. A wider bat would make it easier to hit the ball, not necessarily to score runs. I honestly wouldn't give a monkey's if someone came out to bat against me with a regulation sized laminated bat, he's still got to get the bat on the ball. If he came out holding an unhinged door and placed it in front of the stumps then I would have something to say about it.
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Using a banned product is illegal but manufacturing it is not...anyways would love to see the pics and a complete review of the performace.
but selling it should be, it's not legal inder the laws of cricket...., unless you want to sell it as an oar.
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No that's different. A wider bat would make it easier to hit the ball, not necessarily to score runs. I honestly wouldn't give a monkey's if someone came out to bat against me with a regulation sized laminated bat, he's still got to get the bat on the ball. If he came out holding an unhinged door and placed it in front of the stumps then I would have something to say about it.
Yeah he still has to get the ball on the bat but once he does that 2 runs become 4 runs , a single becomes two , I don't get why it's so hard to comprehend?
It's not like everyone who plays club cricket are all walking wickets who can't get bat on the ball.
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but selling it should be, it's not legal inder the laws of cricket...., unless you want to sell it as an oar.
Mate just give up, there's no way you'd be able to regulate the selling of Lams, and there's no reason selling them should be illegal anyway.
Slazenger make their huge Lams out if 2 clefts and market them as a training aid, should Mike Ashley be bunged in the tower for this??
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Yeah he still has to get the ball on the bat but once he does that 2 runs become 4 runs , a single becomes two , I don't get why it's so hard to comprehend?
It's not like everyone who plays club cricket are all walking wickets who can't get bat on the ball.
I hear ya!
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Yeah he still has to get the ball on the bat but once he does that 2 runs become 4 runs , a single becomes two , I don't get why it's so hard to comprehend?
It's not like everyone who plays club cricket are all walking wickets who can't get bat on the ball.
I think you are seriously overestimating the capabilities of a laminated bat. They aren't like one of those skyer bats, the ball might travel slightly quicker off it but I doubt that every shot the batsman hits will turn twos into fours.
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Mate just give up, there's no way you'd be able to regulate the selling of Lams, and there's no reason selling them should be illegal anyway.
Slazenger make their huge Lams out if 2 clefts and market them as a training aid, should Mike Ashley be bunged in the tower for this??
In this case "Yes"!
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Yeah he still has to get the ball on the bat but once he does that 2 runs become 4 runs , a single becomes two , I don't get why it's so hard to comprehend?
It's not like everyone who plays club cricket are all walking wickets who can't get bat on the ball.
Can't say I've ever seen any evidence to back this up. It is widely discussed that lams perform 'better' - but to what degree?
Having used a few i would say they are nice bats, the ball comes off the bat nicely, but are they 100% better than a normal bat? No.
The difference is probably there, though hard to prove, it is marginal, a few percentage points at best.
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I think you are seriously overestimating the capabilities of a laminated bat. They aren't like one of those skyer bats, the ball might travel slightly quicker off it but I doubt that every shot the batsman hits will turn twos into fours.
Did I say every shot? a batsman who score 50 with a normal bat might end up with 70 with a rubber inserted bat, that's enough to make difference in a match.
Seriously rubber inserts in a cricket bat? why are we even having this discussion? can't believe people are defending this idea.
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Can't say I've ever seen any evidence to back this up. It is widely discussed that lams perform 'better' - but to what degree?
Having used a few i would say they are nice bats, the ball comes off the bat nicely, but are they 100% better than a normal bat? No.
The difference is probably there, though hard to prove, it is marginal, a few percentage points at best.
there , unfair advantage , it should be the end of it.
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Did I say every shot? a batsman who score 50 with a normal bat might end up with 70 with a rubber inserted bat, that's enough to make difference in a match.
Seriously rubber inserts in a cricket bat? why are we even having this discussion? can't believe people are defending this idea.
Do you honestly think a bit of rubber in a bat is going to allow you to hit 10 extra fours an innings? I reckon one or two maximum, at a push three. So 6 extra runs. Possibly a game changer I'll admit but hardly game breaking. It's not worth getting your knickers in a twist. For the record I don't use one, probably wouldn't use one and honestly wouldn't give one jot about seeing one get used against me.
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Do you honestly think a bit of rubber in a bat is going to allow you to hit 10 extra fours an innings? I reckon one or two maximum, at a push three. So 6 extra runs. Possibly a game changer I'll admit but hardly game breaking. It's not worth getting your knickers in a twist. For the record I don't use one, probably wouldn't use one and honestly wouldn't give one jot about seeing one get used against me.
That should be the end of this discussion, Thanks you.
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On the logic of this thread, if someone plays in a league below their level they too should go to prison, as that give just as much, if not more, of an unfair advantage as using/selling a lam.
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I didn't say it wasn't an unfair advantage, and nor do i disagree that the use of an illegal product is too widespread as is the marketing of such a product. However your estimation of how much they increase performance is way over the top.
I have sold one of the Slazenger XL V600 laminates, it is marketed as a training aid, i sold it as such i suppose (though i didn't expressly say 'you can't use this in a match') but it is up to the buyer if they choose to break the laws of the game.
The issue arises because it is difficult to enforce, especially with the confusion generated by carbon handles, reinforced toe inserts etc, they all have different levels of illegality (ie some are legal in club cricket but not in professional cricket, other innovations get a blanket ban) so the average joe on a sunday afternoon doesn't really know whats illegal and what isn't, making it difficult to challenge when someone uses one against him.
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We appear to be confusing the Laws of Cricket and The Law.
It's not within the Laws of the game to have 3 behind square on the legside. Should I be issued a Fixed Penaly Notice for it? No.
I'm personally very interested to see what this bat is like. I imagine from the outside you wouldn't even notice. Some people here really need something better to get wound up about!
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That should be the end of this discussion, Thanks you.
I was talking about professional cricket. No one who doesn't middle the ball practically every time they hit it (i.e. 99% of amateur cricketers) would be able to notice a blind bit of difference.
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#Liverpudlian Accent - Calm down, calm down....
Using a bat with a rubber insert in it is clearly illegal and anyone else on the pitch will be able to see it.
Using a more traditional lam is also illegal.
I have used a traditional lam in nets and frankly, it didn't help me time the ball, and it didn't help me become a better batsman. The difference was when I hit the middle, and, it wasn't that big a difference, i.e., it might have turned a 3 into a 4 on a very good pitch. Was it the Lam or Gooch's skill that scored 333 at Lord's?
The point being
1. Lams do make a difference all be it very small
2. A rubber lam would make a bigger difference and be completely obvious.
3. Certain batmakers in the past have been warned about creating performance enhancing blades by the MCC...
4. It isn't illegal in the laws of cricket to make a laminated bat of any sort, or even an aluminium bat. It is, however, illegal to use one in a game of cricket.
Ergo, let them be made. It's always interesting to see something different.
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On the logic of this thread, if someone plays in a league below their level they too should go to prison, as that give just as much, if not more, of an unfair advantage as using/selling a lam.
Not sure you are messing about or got it completely wrong , when people said they are illegal , that was in the sense of laws of cricket , so this ridiculing of 'going to prison' and 'police calls' not really needed for this discussion.
So when people using laminates or anything illegal in cricket sense they should be punished within laws of cricket nothing else.
With regards to playing a level below your ability, one of our teams got 30 points deducted because they played a first team players in a crucial match too get unfair advantage and they were rightfully docked those points.
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In terms of the difference a lam would make is most likely a catch on the boundary may turn into a six or a defensive may turn into a catch.
I do not think it would make much difference in club cricket specially in 3rd and 4th XI.
I am more interested in seeing the bat and how it performs. I would love to see a ping comparison or a net video of it against a regulation bat.
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Not sure you are messing about or got it completely wrong , when people said they are illegal , that was in the sense of laws of cricket , so this ridiculing of 'going to prison' and 'police calls' not really needed for this discussion.
I was clearly messing about with the going to prison thing.
Prisons are overcrowded, so the electric chair is a much more suitable punishment for using a lam! :D
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But if they have rubber inserts they can't be electrocuted... ;)
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I think this would be appropriate punishment for the Lam users.
Number of hours for the punishment should increase with every run scored above the batsman's average prior to using Lam.
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This has happened so many times. Somebody mentions their lam, and the discussion just spirals out of hand.
Please, the guy got a lam. Let's just see some pictures and let the debate rest.
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fact is the bat in question doesn't exist as we still haven't seen the pictures, but I am intrigued to see it.
actually forget pics, I want to see a video review with it compaired to another bat. preferably in a room with a very high ceiling!
I actually think in most cases laminates are overrated.
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Guys pics now added,take a look, will reply all queries in a while, thanks.
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Well my bat is a lam and I can safely say it hits the ball further than my other conventional bats! Didn't work great on Saturday as my chip to mid on flew to the fielder where as with my other bats it would have dropped short!
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Guys, i am well aware that lams are illegal, was curious to see that how rubber lams performs and how different are they from the glued lams resulting in buying this one. I will use this in nets and probably some friendly matches with the permission of opposition captain so no problem at all.
I forgot to mention that this bat has minimal concaving and have a large extended middle, profile also impressive. Overall satisfied with the bat.
Regarding the difference in performance, i have used glued lams in the past so in comparison Rubber lam is definitely better than the glued one. I have bounced a ball on this bat and it pings exceptionally well.
For those who are debating whether lams perform better than normal bats, my experience says that lams are definitely better than normal ones not big difference probably 5 to 10 percent more performance.
So guys please relax, no one is going to prison by making lams or even if someone is using them. It depends what level you play, if you are playing low club level friendly matches then no harm in using them.
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I think an edge size of that magnitude is quite a big ask in all honesty so you may have been made something thats within the realms of being realistic without having a cleft thats over-dried in terms of moisture content.
I have a TON with 45 mm edges weighing 2.11 and it is not over dried.
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All depends how dense and how much rubber there is in the bat really. If its an enormouse dense piece of rubber then they've probably done pretty well to get the edges that big.
And the Kippax bats are that big because they don't have a spine! They're pretty much reversible.
Look forward to the pics.
well explained.
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Sorry but this is just wrong, I don't think these laminates should be allowed in any level of cricket.
what's next? Spring inserted laminates? I'll be very crossed if an oppo player used one of these against us.
Absolutely correct, these should not be allowed in any level of competitive cricket but in very friendly matches should be allowed. :)
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Meh. I doubt he'll suddenly get a test call up (actually he might!) because all of a sudden he's scoring billions of runs. He's still got to hit the ball just like anyone else.
Forget a Test call even a third division county call is ruled out in my case. :-[ You are spot on mate, lams or conventional you need to hit the ball in middle.
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Absolutely correct, these should not be allowed in any level of competitive cricket but in very friendly matches should be allowed. :)
Fair enough , that's good on you to play fair.
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No need to score billions of runs to get unfair advantage in a match , extra 10-20 runs can change the result of a match, that's all I care, not worried about his potential test call up for the guy.
if he us getting no advantage and he still have to hit the ball what's the need to go thus length to make rubber inserted bats?
Mate just relax, I just wanted to see how these rubber insert lams are.
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Glad you seen to be enjoying it mate whats wrong with invention
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Looks very good shoab. Unless your up close you wouldn't know it was a lam. How does is sound off the mallet?
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I have been saying for a few years about these Laminates but Brimble thought he new best.
Forget glue theses are the real performance laminates..
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How much do these cost?
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I'm intrigued as to how much rubber is actually in the bat.
Is it just a thin sheet under the surface or is it basically a rubber block with a willow casing?
no idea about this, need to cut down the bat to check this. :)
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no idea about this, need to cut down the bat to check this. :)
im interested to see how much you paid for such a service
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Bat looks fantastic shoab .. Looking foward to see this in persson and would really like to have a net with this :) if you allow :) let me know when u book a session :) cheers
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How much do these cost?
yeah thats kind what I'd like to know!
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I presume the rubber is inside the join, but stops before the edges, or is it something completely different, the OP never really explained.
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Glad you seen to be enjoying it mate whats wrong with invention
Yup Dave, enjoying this one and you know i like to explore.
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im interested to see how much you paid for such a service
How much do these cost?
Surprisingly he didn't charged anything extra for Rubber inserts and charged normal rate of a grade 2 chase bat.
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I have been saying for a few years about these Laminates but Brimble thought he new best.
Forget glue theses are the real performance laminates..
now agreed.
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Looks very good shoab. Unless your up close you wouldn't know it was a lam. How does is sound off the mallet?
Bat pings exceptionally well and Sound is little different than normal bat but hardly you can notice it.
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But does it go any better than a normal bat?
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I'd assume so
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I'd assume so
But does it go any better than a normal bat?
off course they pings better than normal bats.
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off course they pings better than normal bats.
why? There is no evidence that any energy actually reaches the rubber
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Wow... You guys went off on a complete tangent.
The only thing I care about - how does the bat perform ?
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it is performing very well.
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How do you know there is rubber in there?
How can you be sure that they didn't make you a 'normal' lam?
He didn't charge you an extra penny for all that extra work?
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How do you know there is rubber in there?
How can you be sure that they didn't make you a 'normal' lam?
He didn't charge you an extra penny for all that extra work?
you have to trust your bat maker, bat pings very well so no doubting.
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you have to trust your bat maker, bat pings very well so no doubting.
@shoab68
is this still alive, if so how is it going, if not did you cut it up for a look inside?
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I gifted that Bat to my friend after using it for a month.
No idea how that Bat performed in my friends hands.
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Carbon kookaburras are fine at club level aren't they?? I thought you could use them until they were dead.
As for a lam, who plays in a league where the umpires would:
A) be able to spot one?
B) do anything about it?
Was thinking exactly the same thing, not like baseball