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Title: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: TheBiologist on July 17, 2014, 05:32:53 PM
Hello all,

I need some advice on how to bowl to batsmen advancing down the track. I played in my first game of the season yesterday, picked up a couple of wickets in 6 overs while conceding like 40 runs. I don't think that I bowled bad in general, but bowled four awful balls which got hit for 20 runs (2x6, 2x4) in total. The problem is, I don't have a lot of pace and hence I have to keep my line and length pretty tight. When a batsman comes down the track, I go for the yorker on middle and leg. I get it right most of the time, but when I miss the yorker the batsman is able to lift the ball over long on or long off. And that is exactly how I got hit for those sixes and fours. I think I need a better strategy to keep the batsmen in check.

Any suggestion ? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: dilscoop on July 17, 2014, 05:36:45 PM
ask keeper to come up to the stumps and see if batsman still walks down the wicket.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 17, 2014, 05:38:14 PM
When  a batsman is advancing what i do is bowl quicker shorter and wider.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: TheBiologist on July 17, 2014, 05:44:57 PM
ask keeper to come up to the stumps and see if batsman still walks down the wicket.

The problem is that our keeper is totally unreliable at best. The last time he took a catch off my bowling was way back in 2012. In almost every game he drops a catch off my bowling by letting those thick edges fly through his gloves to the boundary. Remember him dropping the last 7 edges that I drew off the batsmen...

When  a batsman is advancing what i do is bowl quicker shorter and wider.

I don't have a lot of pace to bowl short, plus the pitches are kinda low so my short ball won't reach chest height.
And how do you set the field for it. Do you employ a deep point ? Generally I bowl in the powerplays, so the outfielders are in long on long off and midwicket.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: tommo256 on July 17, 2014, 05:59:19 PM
Just dont bowl the ball, if he's started to walk its a psychological thing. or bowl yorkers
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: dilscoop on July 17, 2014, 06:12:18 PM
learn the craft of spin bowling
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 17, 2014, 06:33:02 PM
Yes if you try what i suggested you will need a deepish point as the batsman will cut you if he picks the width but it's worth a try as with the keeper up to the stumps if the batsman misses he' should be stumped.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: SkipperJ on July 17, 2014, 07:45:54 PM
Try bowling a wide yorker / low full toss. They are typically hard to reach/hit.
A slow bouncer works well too.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: GarrettJ on July 17, 2014, 08:05:01 PM
Keeper knows the drill ..... Anyone coming down will be dismissed ..... Keeper up ...... Leg side wide ....  See them in the bar later
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 17, 2014, 09:05:29 PM
In the Worcester league any ball down  the legside  that goes through to the keeper is a wide.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: tim2000s on July 17, 2014, 09:20:50 PM
In the Worcester league any ball down  the legside  that goes through to the keeper is a wide.

Doesn't mean the batsman can't be stumped though...

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Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: ManHOOS on July 17, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
Change of pace will work , full length yorks outside his offstump a bit wider so he has to reach for them will work , bouncer right on target or into his ris area ( even if you have less pace ) will work.

Try mixing above three when he advance down the wicket so he has no clue wat coming next :)
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: tim2000s on July 17, 2014, 09:53:36 PM
You can also bowl full at the body.  The rules state that no balls are called for high balls when in normal stance.  Something coming at gut height when you are charging is very hard to play.

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Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: benny231 on July 18, 2014, 01:27:02 AM
Wouldn't really recommend bowling short. Often when a batsman is charging it is because they want the bowler to go short. Well at least thats a ploy that I use. Best advice i'd give is to follow them. Bowl into their pads. Usually a batsman is looking to give himself room whilst he charges so cramp him. or york him
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: ajmw89 on July 18, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
When a batsman tries to charge me I try and fire it wide.  Rather go for the wide and potentially get a stumping than be clubbed out the ground!
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: Kulli on July 18, 2014, 09:46:59 AM
Depends on when the come at you, but as an offie if they come early I just look to drag my length back a bit so they can't get to it. Pretty hard to do anything when they come late though, that's just well played.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: brokenbat on July 18, 2014, 02:52:56 PM
depends on what you bowl. outswing? inswing? both? cutters? may be worth developing a slower ball (even if you think you're already slow).
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: Uniquedan90 on July 18, 2014, 03:47:05 PM
As an Off spinner personally I prefer to push it wider outside the off stump and shorter most people don't advance down and across to the off side against an off spinner they usually prefer to stay inside the line.
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: GarrettJ on July 18, 2014, 04:05:37 PM
Leg side wide if keeper is up, most on rushing batsmen can't get it.

Been doing it for years and it works
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 18, 2014, 08:53:48 PM
My first 1st XI wicket was a stumping off someone who charged too early.

They were coming and trying to give themself room, I bowled it down the off so they couldn't reach it (not a wide as they'd walked almost off the strip) and Teflon behind the stumps did the rest.

I go one of two ways, either the above trying to get a stumping, or try to break the batsman's toes, it's difficult to slog a Yorker length delivery  :)
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: dilscoop on July 18, 2014, 09:00:21 PM
My first 1st XI wicket was a stumping off someone who charged too early.

They were coming and trying to give themself room, I bowled it down the off so they couldn't reach it (not a wide as they'd walked almost off the strip) and Teflon behind the stumps did the rest.

I go one of two ways, either the above trying to get a stumping, or try to break the batsman's toes, it's difficult to slog a Yorker length delivery  :)

Unless you are ms dhoni and pull out the helicopter
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 18, 2014, 09:15:09 PM
Unless you are ms dhoni and pull out the helicopter
If anyone playing Hampshire League can get the helicopter out then fair play to them, not seen it yet though...
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: evans1234 on August 07, 2014, 11:08:16 PM
When I bowl and someone advances down the track I would do exactly the same as you, bowl a yorker as it cramps them up.... The only other thing would be to maybe bowl wider or slower to make them play too early, when I bowl slower I go for an off cutter as you can also get the ball to come in a bit
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: abdulwq on August 31, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
balling shorter and wider is the key for batsmen charging in....most probably the batsman will try to hit the ball on on/off side but the ball will be sliced up for a lollypop catch....I hope your keeper wont mind a lollypop catch:)
Title: Re: Any advice on how to bowl to a batsman advancing down the track ?
Post by: mp07 on August 31, 2014, 01:51:17 PM
Release the ball little late, but not too late than it before too sho and don't give him any room