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Title: moeen ali
Post by: brokenbat on August 02, 2014, 12:48:04 AM
i've read that he has bowled his doosra a few times in international cricket. any clips of this?
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: lexx on August 02, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
He bowled it a few times vs Sri Lanka in the last test match just gone.I dont think he tried it against India yet but i could be wrong as i didnt see all of his spells.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: brokenbat on August 02, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
I've been scouring through replays - yet to find one.
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Post by: Twelfth Man on August 02, 2014, 08:03:24 PM
He 100% bowled it. They were doing various segments during the play on it during Sri Lanka tests. They didn't all necessarily all exactly turn in the other direction, some just simply went straight on but in the action of a doosra.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: Buzz on August 02, 2014, 08:06:39 PM
its the one that looks a bit like a throw.

oh.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: Twelfth Man on August 02, 2014, 08:46:57 PM
its the one that looks a bit like a throw.

oh.


Ohhhh, you've gone there!  :o
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: Buzz on August 02, 2014, 09:09:47 PM
afraid so. I don't want to be accused of a national bias, the fact is the doosra can only be bowled with a bent arm.  on that basis it will look like a throw regardless.

his is less blatant than others.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: TangoWhiskey on August 02, 2014, 09:36:30 PM
I'm fairly sure he got Kohli in the second innings with a doosra? Might be wrong
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Post by: mp07 on August 02, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
Haha.  Agree with Buzz, doosra is bit like throw...ICC seems to be ok with it :(
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: tim2000s on August 02, 2014, 11:21:35 PM
Moeen doesn't chuck it... How dare you. It's a totally fair, legal and legitimate delivery, as all the videos will show you.....
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: tim2000s on August 02, 2014, 11:21:55 PM
;)
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: @187no on August 02, 2014, 11:37:45 PM
I'm sure those who wish to see so will see like most want to see. I've not seen a single fault in his action when bowling.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: brokenbat on August 04, 2014, 02:05:45 AM
How come nobody remembers how Saqlain bowled it? Nobody ever questioned his action...ever. To say doosra = chucking is silly. Its like saying trying to bowl quick leads to chucking - some bowlers chuck trying to bowl the doosra, but the inventor himself was never doubted.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: Buzz on August 04, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKsDz3MmmuA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKsDz3MmmuA)

the highlight of this is Sir Geoff's commentary at around 8.20

I think Saqlain bowled it differently to Ajmal and co.... his uses a rounder arm and more of a wrist flick
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: brokenbat on August 04, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
I think the “chuck” version of the doosra was basically a result of the rest of the world trying to reverse engineer how Saqlain did it. Nobody knows how he did it – but the necessity of trying to develop one led to the modern day version with the bent elbow. Anyway, from what I’ve read, Moeen does have one – but it apparently lacks pace, because he makes an extra effort to keep the elbow straight.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: @187no on August 09, 2014, 06:29:41 AM
How come nobody remembers how Saqlain bowled it? Nobody ever questioned his action...ever. To say doosra = chucking is silly. Its like saying trying to bowl quick leads to chucking - some bowlers chuck trying to bowl the doosra, but the inventor himself was never doubted.

because he was employed by the ecb may answer your question.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: Buzz on August 09, 2014, 06:38:55 AM
because he was employed by the ecb may answer your question.

you are getting Saqlain and Mushie mixed up, one bowled off spin for Pakistan and Surrey, the other bowled leg spin for Sussex and Pakistan (and was an ECB coach)
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: @187no on August 09, 2014, 07:08:32 AM
you are getting Saqlain and Mushie mixed up, one bowled off spin for Pakistan and Surrey, the other bowled leg spin for Sussex and Pakistan (and was an ECB coach)

Which one tried to play for Ireland ?
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: Giraffe208 on August 09, 2014, 07:15:44 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ireland+sign+pakistan+spinner (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ireland+sign+pakistan+spinner)
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: @187no on August 09, 2014, 07:33:25 AM
No wonder Ireland could never set a field to him.
Title: Re: moeen ali
Post by: EaglesCC on August 12, 2014, 10:41:39 AM
They should draw a box on the pitch where the ball has to land otherwise it's a no ball.  :rollingeyessmile: