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Title: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 22, 2014, 05:39:01 PM
The last Newbery batsman?
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Post by: King pair on September 22, 2014, 05:42:14 PM
Batsmen I think so, but they have a few bowlers at Sussex. Yasir Arafat is also sponsored by them
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 22, 2014, 05:44:21 PM
There are a few more I think - couple at Sussex and Glamorgan.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 22, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
It can't be good for them to be seen ad a tail-ender's bat?

Maurice Chambers of Nothants!
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 22, 2014, 05:47:48 PM
There are a few more I think - couple at Sussex and Glamorgan.

Proper batsmen?
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 22, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
Proper batsmen?

depends how you define proper doesn't it? 
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 22, 2014, 06:57:29 PM
depends how you define proper doesn't it?

In the team for their batting?
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 23, 2014, 07:20:17 AM
In the team for their batting?

Joe Gatting, couple of the younger Glamorgan players whose names escape me.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 23, 2014, 08:27:17 AM
Joe Gatting went to GN before he left Sussex.

Have seen Glamorgan twice this year.
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Post by: Manormanic on September 23, 2014, 08:35:36 AM
Joe Gatting went to GN before he left Sussex.

Have seen Glamorgan twice this year.

Did he now?  HAdn't noticed that, not seen HAmpshire play.  Glamorgan had a couple using them when I saw them, but as I say, couldn't tell whom (insert Welsh joke here)
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: bruggers100 on September 23, 2014, 09:44:14 AM
Interesting point being made, however, the amount ofclub cricketers using Newbery in Sussex I would say that it doesn't really impact on sales and how they are perceived. I don't think Newbery has ever been big in sponsorship of professionals, certainly international (was Cork sponsored by them) but you would expect a few more county players to be sponsored, certainly in the Sussex set up.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 23, 2014, 09:57:08 AM
think GN have been quite proactive with Sussex players oflate- oh, and the county have been quite big on bringing their players in from elsewhere to boot.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: bruggers100 on September 23, 2014, 10:48:29 AM
think GN have been quite proactive with Sussex players oflate- oh, and the county have been quite big on bringing their players in from elsewhere to boot.

Good point, Sussex have been bringing in players from elsewhere.  Must be incredibly difficult for youngsters trying to break through.  Thats for another conversation though.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 23, 2014, 10:58:59 AM
Joe Gatting rarely gets in Hampshie's first team.

Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 23, 2014, 11:13:19 AM
Good point, Sussex have been bringing in players from elsewhere.  Must be incredibly difficult for youngsters trying to break through.  Thats for another conversation though.

To be fair, there are not many division one counties that are good at developing their own players, given the constant pressure to maintain status.  Yorkshire obviously do pretty well (though they have brough Hodd and Brooks in from outside, they've done so to cover for England players) and Durham are pretty good but the others regularly field sides with few if any genuinely home grown players.   
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 23, 2014, 11:29:06 AM
Or maybe Newbery have just lost the plot? I bet their nationwide sales are well down in recent years.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 23, 2014, 11:37:15 AM
Or maybe Newbery have just lost the plot? I bet their nationwide sales are well down in recent years.

would be interesting to know, but suspect based on how many of their bats you see in the leagues that they're not at all bad.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Alvaro on September 23, 2014, 11:43:53 AM
A retailer I spoke to recently said they wouldn't be stocking them this coming year due to a number of reasons, though mainly tardiness.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 23, 2014, 12:54:53 PM
By the way, I've realised 5 out of Sussex's top 7 are home-produced players.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 23, 2014, 04:27:33 PM
By the way, I've realised 5 out of Sussex's top 7 are home-produced players.

How do you work that out?  At full strength their top order would be:

Nash (H)
Wells (H)
Joyce (via Ireland and Middlesex)
Cachopa (Yarpie)
Wright (Leicestershire)
Yardy (Kent for junior cricket, Sussex as a pro)
Prior (Yarpie)

Of their regular stand ins and lower middle order, Ben Brown is home grown, but Matt Machan is a Scot and Chris Jordan came from the Windies via Surrey. Stef Piolet came from Warwickshire, Magoffin is an Aussie and Ashar Zaidi from...well...just about anywhere but Sussex .
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 23, 2014, 04:40:50 PM
I included Brown, and had Wtight and Yardy down as homegrown.
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Post by: bruggers100 on September 24, 2014, 05:04:08 AM
How do you work that out?  At full strength their top order would be:

Nash (H)
Wells (H)
Joyce (via Ireland and Middlesex)
Cachopa (Yarpie)
Wright (Leicestershire)
Yardy (Kent for junior cricket, Sussex as a pro)
Prior (Yarpie)

Of their regular stand ins and lower middle order, Ben Brown is home grown, but Matt Machan is a Scot and Chris Jordan came from the Windies via Surrey. Stef Piolet came from Warwickshire, Magoffin is an Aussie and Ashar Zaidi from...well...just about anywhere but Sussex .

Piolet is from Cuckfield (Sussex) and played Sussex academy.  But a case in point, had to go elsewhere to get a chance!
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 24, 2014, 06:54:21 AM
I included Brown, and had Wtight and Yardy down as homegrown.

Yardy I suppose is at least close to homegrown.  Not going to gie you Wright though!!!
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: ppccopener on September 24, 2014, 07:12:51 AM
any one of you Sussex fans know where rory hamilton brown has gone?
he is at Sussex right?
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 24, 2014, 07:31:14 AM
any one of you Sussex fans know where rory hamilton brown has gone?
he is at Sussex right?

Not a Sussex fan, but yes he is.  There are rumours that he is heading out of the game and in to a career in the city...
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2014, 07:56:44 AM
Yardy I suppose is at least close to homegrown.  Not going to gie you Wright though!!!

Wright played one game for Leicester, so I doubt he arrived with a lucrative bat contract.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2014, 08:00:44 AM
There are rumours that he is heading out of the game and in to a career in the city...

Plenty of coke there...
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 24, 2014, 08:18:26 AM
Wright played one game for Leicester, so I doubt he arrived with a lucrative bat contract.

Hmmm...he played one first class game, but loads of List A stuff and had been a regular in the England Under 19 side for a couple of years.  I recall Leicestershire were less than pleased to lose his serices...
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Manormanic on September 24, 2014, 08:19:09 AM
Plenty of coke there...

...our lawyers insist that we adertise the fatc that other brands of soft beverage are also aailable :) ...
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Alvaro on September 24, 2014, 11:52:53 AM
Wright played one game for Leicester, so I doubt he arrived with a lucrative bat contract.

He was a rising star within the system, so was hardly in the have whites can play category.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2014, 11:57:18 AM
He was a rising star within the system, so was hardly in the have whites can play category.

Kookaburra?
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Rob580 on September 24, 2014, 12:00:51 PM
Murray Goodwin scored a triple ton in Luke Wright's first First-Class game. Bringing us beautifully back to the point...

Newbery have never been huge on sponsoring big name players, probably just a case of them pulling back from it for a while until they find suitable players to sponsor.
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Alvaro on September 24, 2014, 12:16:06 PM
Kookaburra?

maybe Slazenger?
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2014, 04:00:05 PM
Murray Goodwin scored a triple ton in Luke Wright's first First-Class game. Bringing us beautifully back to the point...

Good knowledge. Some proper heads on this thread!
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Rob580 on September 25, 2014, 09:31:47 AM
Good knowledge. Some proper heads on this thread!

Beauty of the internet mate......
Title: Re: Murray Goodwin
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 27, 2014, 11:17:23 AM
Poor Murray: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/29371920 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/29371920)