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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: WalkingWicket37 on September 23, 2014, 07:57:01 PM

Title: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 23, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
Evening all

After peoples actual experiences here, what are the pros and cons of:
A) putting a scuff sheet on a bat (A GM style helicopter one, not one of those fibreglass monstrosities!)
B) leaving the playing area naked

I'm guessing that a naked but would crack more quickly, but is easer to deal with this as soon as they appear, compared to a scuff sheet improving the longevity?

Am I anywhere close to right or barking up the wrong tree?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: InternalTraining on September 23, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
I am fine with either...as long as bat pings nicely. It is easier to maintain bat face without a scuff sheet.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Gingerbusiness on September 23, 2014, 09:41:40 PM
Always a scuff sheet because some muppet always brings a bat breaker!
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: tejasapatel on September 24, 2014, 01:59:14 AM
Never without a scuff..

By the way why are there two almost duplicate topics active at the same time?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: kal_m on September 24, 2014, 02:35:55 AM
I prefer not to have a scuff sheet on the playing area of my match bats, just the edges and the toe.Saves me the hassle of removing it to oil the bat after the season is over.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: blocka on September 24, 2014, 03:36:38 AM
Didn't think you needed to oil it with a scuff sheet?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2014, 04:23:38 AM

By the way why are there two almost duplicate topics active at the same time?

And why would people rather talk about scuff sheets than James Middlebrook leaving Northants?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: GarrettJ on September 24, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Naked over fibreglass over the plastic
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 24, 2014, 07:40:23 AM

By the way why are there two almost duplicate topics active at the same time?

One topic is a poll asking people's scuff sheet preference with no comment required (or made), while one was discussing the pros and cons of a scuff sheet vs no scuff sheet.


And why would people rather talk about scuff sheets than James Middlebrook leaving Northants?

His leaving has no impact on me, whereas deciding if I scuff my bat or not directly effects me & potentially the lifespan of my bat!  ;)
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2014, 08:09:30 AM
His leaving has no impact on me, whereas deciding if I scuff my bat or not directly effects me & potentially the lifespan of my bat!  ;)

Probably very little. And you're going to buy a new one anyway.




Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: OwzatOllie on September 24, 2014, 12:04:30 PM
Personally I prefer to use my sword with a layer of protection....ahem!
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: TangoWhiskey on September 24, 2014, 12:22:46 PM
I managed to delaminate the middle on a GN with a scuff sheet after a season with some decent form. Probably would have worn a hole right through it without the scuff holding it together.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 24, 2014, 12:25:48 PM
Personally I prefer to use my sword with a layer of protection....ahem!
Does said protection make it last longer??  ;)
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on September 24, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
What's your thinking WW?

I'm in the same boat here, got a 25 grainer all heartwood and a 6 grainer both with no scuff sheet, do I go with or without?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 24, 2014, 12:40:42 PM
What's your thinking WW?

I'm in the same boat here, got a 25 grainer all heartwood and a 6 grainer both with no scuff sheet, do I go with or without?
Heartwood deffinitley! 6 grainier not as vital I'd say bud.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on September 24, 2014, 12:43:35 PM
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Gonna use the 6 grainer first and see what happens.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 24, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Clear anti scuff  or PU facing is generally  thicker and IMO has a limited negative affect on performance but does the job it's designed to do
Help reduce  bat face surface and edge cracks.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: GarrettJ on September 24, 2014, 01:30:58 PM
Regular sanding and a coat of oil made my bat survive over 5,000 runs in 3 seasons. Still looks ok but the bottom edge split to a bat breaker first net of the outdoor nets
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 24, 2014, 01:36:11 PM
Regular sanding and a coat of oil made my bat survive over 5,000 runs
5,000 runs with regular sanding and oiling you say, a single coat of oil and my bat will last me a lifetime then!!   :-[
Title: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: i12breakfree on September 24, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
Regular sanding and a coat of oil made my bat survive over 5,000 runs in 3 seasons. Still looks ok but the bottom edge split to a bat breaker first net of the outdoor nets

Depends on quality of pressing of your bat and it's luck related to the quality of balls it faces. Here in USA most leagues use cheap quality cricket balls and therefore the face sheet does help.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 24, 2014, 01:58:29 PM
Regular sanding and a coat of oil made my bat survive over 5,000 runs in 3 seasons. Still looks ok but the bottom edge split to a bat breaker first net of the outdoor nets
Yes  end of season sanding to remove dried oil and a couple of light coats of  raw linseed on the face  ( and  toe to prevent damp ) nourishes  the willow As it soaks in. It also retains  the moisture in the blade IMO essential with a new bat which should have been made with the willow at the correct moisture content.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: wilkie113 on September 24, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
Personally think that there is no reason not to, an extra £4-5 on a decent scuff sheet that could potentially increase the life of your beloved timber.

Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Twelfth Man on September 24, 2014, 02:10:24 PM
I can't bare the thought of my bat cracking up, a scuff sheet makes it easy to keep it looking fresh with the use of the ol' nail varnish remover trick!
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: InternalTraining on September 24, 2014, 02:20:12 PM
You remove the scuff sheet every year even if it's in good shape? I thought you don't need to oil the bat face if scuff sheet was on. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a scuff sheet if you have to remove it every year and oil the face and then put the scuff sheet back again on the face of the bat?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: smilley792 on September 24, 2014, 02:25:34 PM
I personally don't like scuff sheets and would rather not have them on my match bats. And here's why.


I prefer the sound of willow without one.

I believe it feels better.

I know after every innings, or even every shot if looking what condition my face is in, nothing hidden under a mucky scuff, or damaged edges hidden under bubbles and whiting on the scuff

I have a bat made to my weight without scuff, not with and prefer it like that.


And last reason, and the important one.

I am a cbf bat badger, I buy atleast 4 bats a season, chop and change and sell on. Having a scuff does not give me any longivety(is that a word) gains. As I don't keep bats long enough.


My match bat was a b3 butterfly, grains are all opened up. Edge has some damage, toe a little feathering, it has lasted me a season, it has done tis job well. And will now be retired for next season.
It never needed a scuff.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: OwzatOllie on September 24, 2014, 04:26:43 PM

Does said protection make it last longer??  ;)

I reckon so. It's better for confidence and just to be safe ;)


What's taters ey?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 24, 2014, 08:03:07 PM
What do the majority of professional players do ? Scuff or not ?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Silver Bullet on September 25, 2014, 05:27:54 AM
^ I reckon no scuff... Why would you put scuff sheet if you don't care much about longevity.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 25, 2014, 06:16:15 AM
I would say the opposite. Vast majority use scuff sheets.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: smilley792 on September 25, 2014, 06:50:50 AM
I would say the opposite. Vast majority use scuff sheets.

Finch, Patel, clarke spring to mind but there players that have the favourite bat mentality.
Not one s that just chop and change.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: GarrettJ on September 25, 2014, 07:03:21 AM
I literally sand mine every month (depending on if I get runs) to remove the scruffiness, small hairline cracks etc and give it a coat of oil. I can sand it up 5 times or more during the season.

If you hardly use your bat 500 runs or less a season then it should last ages

Please note I only go to about 3 or 4 nets a season and play 2 times a week only.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 25, 2014, 07:34:46 AM
Finch, Patel, clarke spring to mind but there players that have the favourite bat mentality.
Not one s that just chop and change.
Ravi Bopara too??
(I hope so anyway, I still shudder thinking about that village job he did with those stickers!!)
Title: Re: Scuff sheet vs Naked bat
Post by: ca_gold on September 25, 2014, 08:55:16 AM
I literally sand mine every month (depending on if I get runs) to remove the scruffiness, small hairline cracks etc and give it a coat of oil. I can sand it up 5 times or more during the season.

If you hardly use your bat 500 runs or less a season then it should last ages

Please note I only go to about 3 or 4 nets a season and play 2 times a week only.

What grade of sand paper do you use?